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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Sun 17-Aug-2008 12:05 Post subject: LEO Fitness for Duty Psychological Exam |
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Anyone been through one of these? I have one tomorrow morning at 8am. I applied for Reserve Officer in my hometown and they are sending me. Just wondering what to expect. I have had psych evals before for jobs and things of that nature, but not anything for a LEO position.
Any insight anyone could offer would be comforting. The appointment is scheduled for 3 hours. Good Grief.  |
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sendec Regular

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 762 Location: Oak Grove, Ohio
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Posted: Sun 17-Aug-2008 14:01 Post subject: |
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Ain't no thing - 3 hours is actually a pretty short one. You'll prbably do 2 hours of written testing and an hour of review, if they have the ability to score your tests right away.
Did they actually call it a "Fitness for Duty" exam? A lot of times that phrase is used when they are evaluating an inservice person who they think might be having "issues." |
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Sun 17-Aug-2008 14:15 Post subject: |
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I dont have the paper here in front of me, but I think thats what it said.
I googled it and came to that same conclusion, and got pretty nervous.
I will be starching my shirt and matching up a tie tonight. Hope they find me "fit" for duty and this process can continue along its merry way.
Thanks for calming me down a little bit.  |
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Dave-O Regular

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Saint Johns, FL USA
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Posted: Sun 17-Aug-2008 14:47 Post subject: |
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Mine was around 4 hours. Completed it in two and a half. It was basically a bunch of questions (around 900 I think) asking you if you like one thing over another, how you feel, etc. Pretty stupid because in some cases I liked both things and in some cases I didn't like either. After that I talked to a psychologist for about 15 minutes about my past, my family, etc. It really was no big deal.
Good going with the shirt and tie. I wore a shirt and tie to mine and I was the only one that did. I was surprised to see others wearing shorts, jeans, and t-shirts! You never know who is watching during the process, so look and be sharp.
Good luck. |
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mcpd2025 Frequent Poster
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 1095 Location: Montgomery County, MD
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Posted: Sun 17-Aug-2008 17:49 Post subject: |
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I am sure there must be a reason why departments choose to use this type of test, I'll be damned if I know what it is though! When I went through mine, one of the questions was to the effect of "sometimes I do not feel like getting out of bed in the morning..... true or false". I was a college student applying for a police job. The pysch test was at 8am, an hour from my campus. I didn't feel like getting out of bed that very morning, so I checked off that it was true.
That stupid question raised some flags that I might have depression, etc, etc. When I went in for the followup with some pyschiatrist, I told him that I ready the question literally and answered truthfully, I am not a morning person!
It is my feeling that a subjective test like this is a good way to wean out the undesirable candidates, which hopefully isn't you. Get a good night sleep and have some breakfast.... food and drink. Wear a clean, professional outfit (suit if you have one). Show up a little early, be confident, polite and truthful.
Good luck!
I forgot.... my test was scheduled from 0800-1200 hours or something like that. I was done in about an hour and 15 minutes. Then our results were evaluated and then I had a seperate interview 2 weeks later with the shrink. |
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Sun 17-Aug-2008 18:21 Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone for the advice. I will be dressed professionally, I will have eaten, and I will be on time, polite and honest.
The way this is sounding, sounds very similar to a evaluation I had for a job back in 2003. It was draining and tedious, but not too brutal. |
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sendec Regular

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 762 Location: Oak Grove, Ohio
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Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 05:56 Post subject: Re: |
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I will be starching my shirt and matching up a tie tonight. |
YOU STARCHED YOU SHIRT?!?!?!?!
Definite signs of an obsessive/compulsive disorder and a neofascist drive to serve the totalitarian power structure like a mindless drone.
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Parkpiggy Contributing Member
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 382 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 06:39 Post subject: |
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A lot of the test is truthfulness. The same question is worded 6 diffrent ways, spread throughout the test. Some of the questions are really bizzare. I can remember a few from mine almost 10 years ago-
Are you attracted to tall women?
Would you rather arrange pretty flowers or balance your checkbook?
As long as you don't admit killing baby bunnies and lining them up to make a parade on your kitchen table, you should be fine! |
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car54 Regular

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 109 Location: southern MN
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Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 09:13 Post subject: |
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Ilike the ones "I love my father", "I have bloody stools", "people talk about me" and my favorite "as a child I played drop the hankie" &*$ is drop the hanky - it sort of sounds like some pedophile game or something!
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 11:31 Post subject: |
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Well, glad thats over.
It was basically an IPAT test from 1972. Pick A, B, or C, but be careful not to pick too many B's because the test will be inconclusive, yada yada.
One other guy was there with me. He was dressed in cargo shorts, backwards hat, etc. Hope it wasnt unnoticed that I was dressed professionally.
I also had an interview with the psychologist for about 30 mins. All in all was pretty simple.
Then was the urine test, anyone else feel like their on stage and have a hard time letting it go in a cup? I did. I had to pee terribly right before I left the psychologists office. So of course when I got to the lab, I didnt have to go. Ugh.
Its all done now, waiting for the next step. Hopefully I can add LEO to my portfolio here soon.
Thanks for the help everyone. |
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Jarred J. Frequent Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 1315 Location: Shelbyville, TN
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Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 13:19 Post subject: Re: |
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Then was the urine test, anyone else feel like their on stage and have a hard time letting it go in a cup? I did. I had to pee terribly right before I left the psychologists office. So of course when I got to the lab, I didnt have to go. Ugh.
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when i was in the ARMY i hated the 4 am wake ups for random piss tests while somebody had to stand beside you and watch you pee  |
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Dave-O Regular

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Saint Johns, FL USA
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Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 19:16 Post subject: |
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It's called stagefright. Seriously though, good luck on the rest of the process. Keep us posted. |
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Thu 21-Aug-2008 14:53 Post subject: |
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I wonder what the "rest of the process" is? I have never done any illegal drug in my life, and assuming I passed the psych portion, what could be next?
There is nothing as far as a physical exam for a reserve position, only a reserve academy.
We shall see. Hope they call me soon. |
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Jarred J. Frequent Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 1315 Location: Shelbyville, TN
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Posted: Thu 21-Aug-2008 17:19 Post subject: |
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Thu 21-Aug-2008 17:23 Post subject: |
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| I had that with the Chief and with the Sgt. that runs the Reserves program for the dept. Eh, whatever it is, I roll with the punches and make it happen to the fullest. |
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Jarred J. Frequent Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 1315 Location: Shelbyville, TN
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Posted: Thu 21-Aug-2008 17:24 Post subject: Re: |
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Ilike the ones "I love my father", "I have y stools", "people talk about me" and my favorite "as a child I played drop the hankie" &*$ is drop the hanky - it sort of sounds like some e game or something!
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ohh yeah ive had those tests but they had the same questions in oppsite order.
im schizophrentic yes or no
when the voices in my head tell me things about people i laugh.
ive thought of commiting .
when i cut my arms its fun
i beat small animals
when i had a dog as a kid i dropped it repeadetly
stupid questions like that.
or there are the 2 part questions and your supposed to answer the second question
ive stolen something in my life. i would tell on people who steal
i speed alot. speeding is against the law
i beat my kids child abuse is ok |
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Pat H. Administrator
Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 9419 Location: Phillips County, Montana
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Posted: Thu 21-Aug-2008 17:28 Post subject: Re: |
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| I had that with the Chief and with the Sgt. that runs the Reserves program for the dept. Eh, whatever it is, I roll with the punches and make it happen to the fullest. |
I used to work with the Chief at another location. Is the Sgt still T.F.? |
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Thu 21-Aug-2008 17:36 Post subject: |
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I dont know the Sgt's first name, but the last initial is fairly right
They both seemed okay, of course, how can you judge when you're sitting on the side of the table that I was on. That was nerve racking. |
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Round C Member

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Macomb County, MI
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Posted: Fri 29-Aug-2008 16:03 Post subject: |
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Had my pre-employment physical today.
Turns out that turn your head and cough really DOES have a purpose, LOL. Dr. didnt seem too overly concerned, said it wasnt a hernia yet, but the inguinal muscles were weak and I should pay close attention to any changes in the area. He still cleared me for duty.
Time to make an appt with MY Dr. and get snipped at the same time.
Anyone have hernia surgery experience? |
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