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firemedic15
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Question for all the rural folk who don't have those goofy metal pressurized hydrants and have to move water with non-winged tankers. 
What do you use to paint your dry hydrants? Ours are all 8" Sch 40 PVC
Someone has suggested using only an epoxy based paint. Thoughts? Ideas?
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Robert W.
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| We leave them the stock White on White with grey connectors. |
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firemedic15
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| We leave them the stock White on White with grey connectors. |
Apparently UV light breaks down PVC. |
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fyredawg
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| Posted: Thu 14-Aug-2008 09:59 Post subject: Re: Painting Dry Hydrants |
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| firemedic15 wrote: |
Question for all the rural folk who don't have those goofy metal pressurized hydrants and have to move water with non-winged tankers.
What do you use to paint your dry hydrants? Ours are all 8" Sch 40 PVC
Someone has suggested using only an epoxy based paint. Thoughts? Ideas?
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Us city boys dont have dem dere plastic hydrents...but a good way to paint PVC is to sand it good (paints needs to bite into it) wipe it down with "pre-kleeno" or simular cleaning pre-paint agent, self etching primer, then paint. |
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Robert W.
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+1 if you must paint it. UV light over many many years hasn't seemed to destroy any of ours.
Also, just for that extra benefit, if you plan to use spray paint, use one of the ones labeled for plastics and do several light coats instead of one heavy coat, especially because the plastic is slippery, and even with good sanding, heavy painting will cause streaks. |
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eastfire510
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| We dont even have those.....we just suck in from the pond |
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QualityLights
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| I STRONGLY recommend Fusion Paint in a spray can. It is available from any Lowes, Home Depot or Wal-Mart. About $4.00 or so a can and it is designed to molecularly bond with the plastic so it won't flake like conventional spray paint. I use it on any plastic that requires paint and have yet to see it ever peel or flake. |
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OTFD122
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| We haven't had any problems with our 15 year + dry hydrants and UV breakdown... We had to put "No Parking" signs in from of them though... People were parking in front of them not knowing what they were. |
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firemedic15
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| We haven't had any problems with our 15 year + dry hydrants and UV breakdown... We had to put "No Parking" signs in from of them though... People were parking in front of them not knowing what they were. |
LOL, that's Oakland Twp for ya!  |
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Travelin Man
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| Not related to the paint issue (we've never painted any of the 72 that we have), but think about using 45-degree elbows instead of 90-degree. Not only will you improve your flow with less friction loss, the threads will often end up nearer the intake on the rig, especially if using a side intake. |
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usdemt
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| eastfire510 wrote: |
| We dont even have those.....we just suck in from the pond |
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| I STRONGLY recommend Fusion Paint in a spray can. It is available from any Lowes, Home Depot or Wal-Mart. About $4.00 or so a can and it is designed to molecularly bond with the plastic so it won't flake like conventional spray paint. I use it on any plastic that requires paint and have yet to see it ever peel or flake. |
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Station 3
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 I have never seen one of those we usually just sux it straight from the river of lake or pond. But im in a city/rural dept so we deal with both of those situations.
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firemedic15
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| Not related to the paint issue (we've never painted any of the 72 that we have), but think about using 45-degree elbows instead of 90-degree. Not only will you improve your flow with less friction loss, the threads will often end up nearer the intake on the rig, especially if using a side intake. |
I lost that argument years ago. |
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SwbcVFD20
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Still have yet to see dry hydrants. Might sound like a silly question, but what is that smaller pipe right next to the hydrant?
If I had to guess, I'd say it's an intake to assist the suction? Please enlighten me!  |
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usdemt
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Still have yet to see dry hydrants. Might sound like a silly question, but what is that smaller pipe right next to the hydrant?
If I had to guess, I'd say it's an intake to assist the suction? Please enlighten me! |
We dont have them but I am sure it is just like sucking out of a pond with a float. You would then be correct it is an 1 1/2 used to prime the suction line. |
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Robert W.
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Or if you are using that as opposed to a port-a-pond, you can hook a line for return so that you keep the pump cool by cycling water. If your engine has a good primer that is properly maintained there should be no reason to have to use that method. If you want to reduce stress on the system you can dump a little water through your hard suction line so the pump can pull the water.
The only place I have seen it is at a training facility where they used the lagoons as a source of water so trucks would use that as their return because they didn't have a port-a-pond they could dump it to. |
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Robert W.
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| People were parking in front of them not knowing what they were. |
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More difficult when you are using hard suction line, but it could still be done. |
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Z Mealey
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| Posted: Mon 18-Aug-2008 22:27 Post subject: Re: Painting Dry Hydrants |
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Us city boys dont have dem dere plastic hydrents...but a good way to paint PVC is to sand it good (paints needs to bite into it) wipe it down with "pre-kleeno" or simular cleaning pre-paint agent, self etching primer, then paint. |
I work in the city and we have a ton of these. All of our hotels lazy rivers and pools are plummed into them. We have 48" water mains and still have to have all these dry hydrants. Oh, and as far as the paint goes I dunno. We leave them stock |
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firemedic15
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Or if you are using that as opposed to a port-a-pond, you can hook a line for return so that you keep the pump cool by cycling water. If your engine has a good primer that is properly maintained there should be no reason to have to use that method. If you want to reduce stress on the system you can dump a little water through your hard suction line so the pump can pull the water.
The only place I have seen it is at a training facility where they used the lagoons as a source of water so trucks would use that as their return because they didn't have a port-a-pond they could dump it to. |
DING DING DING...... We have a winner. We use the 1.5" as a return to the pond so we keep the pump cool and don't loose prime. |
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firemedic15
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| Thanks for all the replies! I'm going to try the Krylon Fusion and see what kind of results we get. |
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QualityLights
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| If you REALLY want to get crazy, paint them to look just like a piece of line, complete with the end painted to look like a Storz. |
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