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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Wed 7-May-2008 13:00 Post subject: |
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I ordered a two PCB kits from USN_GUY.
This is what I got:
It came nicely packaged in a padded envelope with two anti-static bags that contained all the parts I needed. It had the two PCBs, the LEDs and resistors.
All I had to do was solder them up and GO! The boards came pre-drilled and labeled. The only thing that might be confusing to a new person is figuring out which side of the LED is positive. The entire process took about 15 mins from start to finish. It took me longer to find my wire than to do the actual soldering. (ignore the black perfboard with the gen2 lights. Those are my own creation....)
I ordered a white board and a red board. I was really impressed with how quickly it all went together.
The LEDs he sent were very bright head on, but as expected, off-axis isn't that great. The whites seem to be a little better in that aspect.
Here is a short video of a bar I made in about 30 mins. I would paint everything before I installed, but you get the idea.
I think if you are new to electronics and are looking for a super quick and easy way to build your own lightbars, this is a great way to go. Good job USN_GUY! |
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noxin Regular

Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 437 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed 7-May-2008 14:04 Post subject: |
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Mark, how would you compare these to the bars you made in terms of brightness and off-angle viewing?
I forget which one it is, but one side of the LED has a flat spot, and that's consistently negative. Also, before cutting, the negative is the short side. A simple note in the package could resolve any confusion. |
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USN_Guy Regular

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN
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Posted: Wed 7-May-2008 14:08 Post subject: |
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I will be making a directions sheet to send with future shipments.
I'll post something in the forsale forum when i get more pics and price figured out. in the mean time PM if you are interested in one/some |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Wed 7-May-2008 14:26 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:9ece14d26f=\"noxin\"]Mark, how would you compare these to the bars you made in terms of brightness and off-angle viewing? |
Head on, theses lights are as bright or brighter as the gen 2 bars I typically make. They are not as bright off-axis. Its an unfair comparison though, since the technology is different. Also, my gen 2 lights have 45 LEDs in each section and these have 9 high-output LEDs so the cost is a lot less for the gen 1 bars.
So, it all depends on what you need. If you are building something that is for a side or back window or if you already have your angles covered and just need some additional punch in a particular direction, these would be an inexpensive and easy solution.
Like I said earlier, I put these together in just a few minutes and the parts were much cheaper than the way I build my gen 2 bars. I think this would be a great way to get some experience with LED lights if you have never worked with them before too. I feel confident that anyone could get a soldering iron and get this project working with little hassle. |
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VLT Inc. Member

Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Langhorne, PA
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Posted: Thu 8-May-2008 10:25 Post subject: |
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| Looking good guys, keep it up. Nice PCB's btw, if I do say so myself. |
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usdemt Regular

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 915 Location: Britton/Vermillion SD
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Posted: Mon 12-May-2008 22:50 Post subject: |
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Ok guys I ordered my LED's on the 1st and I just got them today ten days to ship. Not so bad. I am still waiting on the resistors but in the meantime I was looking at the LED's. Now I need to know which post is positive and which is negative? I have the superflux ones like these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=7623967103
Any body know? Or doesnt it really matter. I am using them for a negative switched flasher so I dont want to do it wrong if it will make a difference. |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Mon 12-May-2008 22:54 Post subject: Re: |
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[quote:f3d648c832=\"usdemt\"]Ok guys I ordered my LED's on the 1st and I just got them today ten days to ship. Not so bad. I am still waiting on the resistors but in the meantime I was looking at the LED's. Now I need to know which post is positive and which is negative? I have the superflux ones like these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=7623967103
Any body know? Or doesnt it really matter. I am using them for a negative switched flasher so I dont want to do it wrong if it will make a difference. |
It definately DOES matter
[img]http://nhl4353.sinaman.com/Superfluxdraw.BMP[/img]
positives on the left, negatives on the right. |
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Turbocharger Regular

Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 786 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Thu 15-May-2008 02:12 Post subject: |
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Has anyone ever thought of trying and making some sort of takedown light with this method?
I'm thinking I'm gonna mount my bar in the windshield, and was toying with the idea of getting the brightest white LEDs I can to mount as takedowns.
I know they won't be as bright as the multi-watt Gen 4s, but some 280,000mcd white 10mm Gen 1s just might work as a cheap alternative... |
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LFD-Mike Frequent Poster
Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 1898 Location: Metro Milwaukee, WI
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Mark- forums don't like BMP for images (unless settings changed). I took the liberty of copying the image, chopping off the bottom, and doing some coloring to help out
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usdemt Regular

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 915 Location: Britton/Vermillion SD
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Posted: Thu 15-May-2008 12:18 Post subject: Re: |
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[quote:af92bb0ee9=\"Turbocharger\"]Has anyone ever thought of trying and making some sort of takedown light with this method?
I'm thinking I'm gonna mount my bar in the windshield, and was toying with the idea of getting the brightest white LEDs I can to mount as takedowns.
I know they won't be as bright as the multi-watt Gen 4s, but some 280,000mcd white 10mm Gen 1s just might work as a cheap alternative... |
Hey you should try this. Look at the pics they are amazing.
http://www.elightbars.org/bb/homemade-led-alley-light-for-whelen-edge-9m-vt44625.html
And thanks Mark and Mike that exactly what I needed to know. |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Fri 16-May-2008 07:21 Post subject: |
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| Yes.. that is sweet! |
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bmwm517 Contributing Member
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 168 Location: Tallahassee, FL
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Definately! it becomes a lot more expensive and difficult if you use those LEDs though. As you see on ebay, the price per LED is much higher. then you need to buy lenses and power pucks to regulate current and a heat sink. With the costs of the housing and the time involved, you probably would be better off buying an light from Whacker or Axixtech.
That being said, I think its fun to tinker with things and wouldn't mind trying out a project with the high power LEDs just to see how it turns out  |
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bmwm517 Contributing Member
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 168 Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: Fri 16-May-2008 08:47 Post subject: |
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| What kind of power do Whacker and Axixtech put out, in terms of wattage? Is it anything near 5W? |
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usdemt Regular

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 915 Location: Britton/Vermillion SD
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Posted: Fri 16-May-2008 19:31 Post subject: |
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When is this going to be a sticky? I am sick of looking for it.
Pretty Please Admins  |
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Pimpala03 Moderator

Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 10751 Location: Union Parish, Louisiana
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Posted: Fri 16-May-2008 19:38 Post subject: |
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Bookmark.
Watch topic for replies.
Search function.
It's pretty simple, really.  |
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usdemt Regular

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 915 Location: Britton/Vermillion SD
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Posted: Fri 16-May-2008 23:41 Post subject: |
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Ha thanks Pimp I just thought a Sticky Would be so much easier.
Anyway now to the important stuff. I got my resistors today and my LED's last week so of course I had to put something together. But since I havent done this before I might as well challenge myself So I made my own version of the Chameleon.
Here is the wiring diagram I made up. I really wasnt sure if it would work until I plugged it in.
And a view from the back so you can see how I actually did it.
Now I have a B/W Chameleon that really works pretty good.
Here is the front. If you look you can see the difference in the LED's from one color to the other if you look at the dot in the center.
And of cours it wouldnt be complete without a video to show how it looks. I dont have my ULF44 yet mainly because I havent ordered it yet So i just used a double pole switch to wig wag it back and forth. I turned off the lights not to make the LED's look brighter, they are plenty bright, but so you could see how the lights blend together and it actually looks like a pretty decent Chameleon. Its hard to se the difference in the colors which is mainly my camera but if you look you can see it.
This was just a trial so when I actually make the two I want it will look much better. The resistors are not even so that they dont touch and short out but other than that the layout of were the power and ground come in needs to be set up better. Also if you look at the picture of the back you can see that i left a little piece of the wire insulation that was becuase it was jsut to close for comfort. But I found that if you bend the posts so that all the blue are up and all the white are down you can easily just solder one bar across each and not worry about them contacting.
Also look at the end of the video you can see the LED's light up very dim. I left that on there to show how little power they actually use as the current that lit them was what was traveling through my fingers when I would touch the contacts and bypass the switch. I couldnt figure out why they were glowing till i realized it was just touching the contacts could give it enough power to glow. |
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snitchs99 Regular

Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 61 Location: Allentown, PA
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Posted: Sat 17-May-2008 00:35 Post subject: |
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| Looks good usdemt. I like the idea of the split colors.... |
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usdemt Regular

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 915 Location: Britton/Vermillion SD
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Posted: Sun 18-May-2008 10:30 Post subject: |
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I know some of you guys were looking for some stuff to seal up the lights for exterior use and I found a good solution for that. I got some of this off ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270134944936
It works great. Its a two part stuff but it is easy to work with and is perfect for electronics. The people who sell it are also easy to work with. They have it in clear and black in all different size containers. It dries flexible and with a smooth glossy finish that seals out the elements. O and did I mention its is cheap! I got almost a gallon of it for forty five dollars shipped.
And no I dont sell the stuff or am affiliated with it in any way. I just read what I wrote and it kinda sounds like an advertisement. |
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usdemt Regular

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 915 Location: Britton/Vermillion SD
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Posted: Sun 25-May-2008 00:40 Post subject: |
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| Anybody have 25 amber superflux LED's they can part with? I am a little short and I dont want to wait two weeks to get more butI might have to. |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Wed 4-Jun-2008 11:44 Post subject: |
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I just got done with a new visor light for the Silverado since I had to sell the last one. I went with the 3/4\" aluminum bar instead of the 1\" steel bar this time. Less LEDs, but its still good and bright.
Its has six segements, but runs off of a 4 channel flasher for now. I wired it so that I can get a six channel flasher later. Right now the flasher is set to 'random' but I'm going to pick either the left/right wig wag style or a 'chase' pattern. |
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USN_Guy Regular

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN
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Posted: Wed 4-Jun-2008 13:39 Post subject: |
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| Lookin good Mark, I like how you have them hooked up double on inside edge of each section |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Wed 4-Jun-2008 13:43 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:2c3e3a9cc7=\"USN_Guy\"]Lookin good Mark, I like how you have them hooked up double on inside edge of each section |
Thanks! I hooked them up that way to turn the 6 segments into 4
I might just keep it that way, but right now I intend on getting a 6 channel flasher when I can scrape together some money. |
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MEVS06 Frequent Poster
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 1194 Location: Edinburg, Rio Grande Valley, Tx
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Posted: Wed 4-Jun-2008 14:17 Post subject: |
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wow mark that lightbar looks good, nice video
joe |
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TXfirefighter627 Member

Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Spring, TX
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Posted: Fri 13-Jun-2008 20:34 Post subject: |
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| That bar is absolutely sick. Great Job. |
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