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| Pat H. Administrator Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 9544 Location: Phillips County, Montana |
And do you also have a permit for said lights? |
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Location: Sullivan County, New Hampshire
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LOL Thats happened to me in Forida one time when I took my truck down there  |
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 10:35 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:11670e62eb=\"Pat H.\"][quote:11670e62eb=\"nmfire10\"]Well what color are they and what do you have them for? | |
And do you also have a permit for said lights?
yea i have a red light permit, im a fire fighter, it just made me mad because thats the only reason i got stopped
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 11:02 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:4735313899=\"light_n_em_up\"][quote:4735313899=\"Pat H.\"][quote:4735313899=\"nmfire10\"]Well what color are they and what do you have them for? | |
And do you also have a permit for said lights?
yea i have a red light permit, im a fire fighter, it just made me mad because thats the only reason i got stopped
I know of someone up here who has been stopped several times just because he has a white Impala with a dual Talon in the window. He is also a ff with a dept near where he gets stopped.
If they are going to stop you they will.
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Location: Pensacola
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| but even if it were blue, what would it matter? they werent on, so what would be the problem? he should have seen the dual dashmiser w/ red lenses in the headliner and used his head. i have a ff decal and liscense plate cover in the back. doesnt take a genius to put 2 & 2 together. then he told me i was not allowed to run any lights! &*$! | |
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Location: Rochester, MI
| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 11:15 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:5eea530a9a=\"Pat H.\"][quote:5eea530a9a=\"light_n_em_up\"][quote:5eea530a9a=\"Pat H.\"][quote:5eea530a9a=\"nmfire10\"]Well what color are they and what do you have them for? | |
And do you also have a permit for said lights?
yea i have a red light permit, im a fire fighter, it just made me mad because thats the only reason i got stopped
I know of someone up here who has been stopped several times just because he has a white Impala with a dual Talon in the window. He is also a ff with a dept near where he gets stopped.
If they are going to stop you they will.
Hmmm... I wonder who that could be...
Yeah, it seems to be a weekly occurence with me (last was Waterford PD). I have all the necessary paperwork and whatnot, and even a few FD stickers on my front and back windshield. But I don't get mad about it, I mean, the cop has a right to pull me over and see what's goin on. This should hopefully all stop Tuesday once my Excalibur gets installed (I've put it off long enough!).
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 11:15 Post subject: Re: |
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I know of someone up here who has been stopped several times just because he has a white Impala with a dual Talon in the window. He is also a ff with a dept near where he gets stopped. [/quote] yeah well, im in a 95 civic w/ no tint! hardly looks like a UC if you ask me |
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 11:16 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:e09abd2527=\"light_n_em_up\"]but even if it were blue, what would it matter? they werent on, so what would be the problem? he should have seen the dual dashmiser w/ red lenses in the headliner and used his head. i have a ff decal and liscense plate cover in the back. doesnt take a genius to put 2 & 2 together. then he told me i was not allowed to run any lights! &*$! | |
Maybe an \"uninformed\" officer? Who knows. Maybe you can get some of the other police officers here on the board from Florida who can jump in on this with their take and info for you.
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 12:25 Post subject: |
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Sounds to me like he isn't aware of the laws concerning the lights. Cops that don't know what they're doing are dangerous, so make sure that YOU know the laws. I can't believe how many cops don't even know firearm laws and think the \"three step rule\" is actually true.  |
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Location: Springfield, Illinois
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| The nice thing about Illinois lately is they passed a law requiring all blue light users (firefighter, emts, etc) to carry ID with information about their department, position, experiation date, etc. Ours in our department also have a snippet of the law and the legal code.
All we have to do is show our ID to the officer and we're good to go (at least on the lights, anything else, yer on yer own.  ). |
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Location: Richmond, VA and Morgantown, WV
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This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. This goes beyond not knowing the ligting laws, this is just plain harrassment. I would have an attorney politely inform the police department to stop pulling you over on such a frequent basis and without cause.  |
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Location: Palm Beach County, Florida
| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 15:24 Post subject: |
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| How is that harassment? I can't stand how people throw that word around. It's arguable whether the deputy has probable cause for the stop, but getting pulled over one time with questionable PC is not harassment. And a lawyer won't give a crap either. | |
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 15:24 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:5a2a999022=\"bisho1p\"]This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. This goes beyond not knowing the ligting laws, this is just plain harrassment. I would have an attorney politely inform the police department to stop pulling you over on such a frequent basis and without cause. |
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Whoa, back the truck up, Al. He said nothing about being pulled over with such frequency. It sounded to me like this was the first time happening. I wouldn't lawyer up over this! Maybe call your local police dept and ask them. If you don't believe them, ask the FHP office.
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 15:52 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:5ac9ae9fab=\"Hugh A.\"][quote:5ac9ae9fab=\"bisho1p\"]This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. This goes beyond not knowing the ligting laws, this is just plain harrassment. I would have an attorney politely inform the police department to stop pulling you over on such a frequent basis and without cause. |
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Whoa, back the truck up, Al. He said nothing about being pulled over with such frequency. It sounded to me like this was the first time happening. I wouldn't lawyer up over this! Maybe call your local police dept and ask them. If you don't believe them, ask the FHP office.
[/quote]Yeah, it seems to be a weekly occurence with me (last was Waterford PD). I have all the necessary paperwork and whatnot, and even a few FD stickers on my front and back windshield. But I don't get mad about it, I mean, the cop has a right to pull me over and see what's goin on. This should hopefully all stop Tuesday once my Excalibur gets installed (I've put it off long enough!).[/quote]
If it's a \"weekly occurence\" it sure sounds like more then one time to me. I think he would heve the right to be a little pissed, I know I would be.
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 16:06 Post subject: |
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| Well, while you are referring to a quote by OTFD122, I was talking about the topic author, light_n_em_up, of whom I assumed Bisho1p was talking. | |
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 16:06 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:6c67fe6128=\"Will\"][quote:6c67fe6128=\"Hugh A.\"][quote:6c67fe6128=\"bisho1p\"]This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. This goes beyond not knowing the ligting laws, this is just plain harrassment. I would have an attorney politely inform the police department to stop pulling you over on such a frequent basis and without cause. |
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Whoa, back the truck up, Al. He said nothing about being pulled over with such frequency. It sounded to me like this was the first time happening. I wouldn't lawyer up over this! Maybe call your local police dept and ask them. If you don't believe them, ask the FHP office.
Yeah, it seems to be a weekly occurence with me (last was Waterford PD). I have all the necessary paperwork and whatnot, and even a few FD stickers on my front and back windshield. But I don't get mad about it, I mean, the cop has a right to pull me over and see what's goin on. This should hopefully all stop Tuesday once my Excalibur gets installed (I've put it off long enough!).[/quote]
If it's a \"weekly occurence\" it sure sounds like more then one time to me. I think he would heve the right to be a little pissed, I know I would be.[/quote]
You know something though... I have been pulled over too many times to count for \"looking like a cop\". But The way I figure I kind of brought it upon myself. Impala + Talon = pretty policey looking. I'm not very antagonistic, I never have gotten mad because I got pulled over. An officer has the right to be concerned about something. I carry a department ID saying I'm a firefighter yada yada... and police never give me hassle. One even suggested that I get chrome trim rings for my wheels and told me the best place to get them! And as long as the officer isn't pulling me over for speeding, I don't have anything to worry about though, I'm legit.
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| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 16:26 Post subject: |
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| last night was the first time it has happened, i'm sure sometimes i turn a few heads and make some wonder, but never been stopped, i would not be pissed about it if the officer was somewhat nice about it. but after he asked what the color was and i said\" red, the same as my strobe\" he said \"all i asked was the color, turn it on\" so i did, he comes back to the window and says\"why do you have red lights, are you a fire fighter? where your permit\" , i give it to him and he says\"the state of florida prohibits and flashing or rotating red or blue lights visible from the front or rear of the vehicle\" i say\" then why would my chief give me this permit\" \"ask him\" he says, then he wanted me to put my lights in the trunk, HELL, i have a remote dashmiser that the wires run all through the headliner, i would have been on the side of the road for an hour! so we compromised on putting up the slimlighter and removing the lenses on my dashmiser and putting them in the trunk!
this just doesnt seem right, i had my permit that was issued by my chief, but still had to put up my lights, im pretty sure that florida law states red can be used, 1 in the front, 2 in the back, yea i know that i have more than that, but i run either led's or strobes.... remote dashmisers and hideaways, or ll slimlighter and sho me hyper brites in the grill, never all at once, i just couldnt make the choice between the two |
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Location: Columbus, Ohio area
| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 17:06 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:775b603418=\"Pat H.\"] And do you also have a permit for said lights? | |
In Ohio, emergency responders who respond in their own personal vehicles are supposed to have a sticker on the windshield. Most dont put it on there and nobody thinks twice.
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Joined: 20 Aug 2005
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Location: Richmond, VA and Morgantown, WV
| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 18:11 Post subject: |
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| I would file a complaint with the police department if nothing else. Assuming you werent doing anything, he didnt have any right to tell you to take the lights off, especially if:
a) they werent on and b) you have a permit |
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Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Posts: 299
Location: Camdan CO,Missouri
| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 18:17 Post subject: |
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| Go talk to the Sheriff. Ask him to explain this employe's actions. His actions from what you have related seem strange. How did he know you were a FF when you said you had red and act like he didn't know that FF use red lights? | |
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Location: Palm Beach County, Florida
| Posted: Sun 15-Jan-2006 19:35 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:9b7943be65=\"bisho1p\"]I would file a complaint with the police department if nothing else. Assuming you werent doing anything, he didnt have any right to tell you to take the lights off, especially if:
a) they werent on and b) you have a permit |
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Where in the original post did it say he had to take the lights off? Officer stopped him, asked to see the lights on, inspected his permit and sent him on his way.
Why should he contact the sheriff and ask him to explain his employee's action, Will? I see questionable (but not improper!) PC for a stop and that's it. No violation of the law or common departmental policy was reported by the original poster.
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