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| Depends on why they have the strobes/LED's wouldn't it? To put everyone not on a department in that class is entirely unfair. Then again, who ever said those on departments were fair So let me get this straight, I have some LED's on my POV van. I'm not an LEO or a firefighter or anything else close to those. So if I see a wreck that looks like it might have just happened and I stop to see if anyone needs medical help, I'm a wacker, is that what your saying? Or if I come upon what appears to be disabled vehicle and I stop to see if I can offer any assistance, I'm a wacker? If that is the case then I think you have been sniffing way to much lately and need to lay off of it for a while I'll be 60 the end of this year. I did my duty 20 years ago as a volunteer LEO until I changed jobs and went to another state. I don't have cheap, toy lights on my van, I have nothing but Whelen's (Talon, Slimligher MM and TIR3's). I'm not out playing games with my lights. I don't stop to just stop. I stop when I believe I might be of some service. If I come upon a wreck and I see people standing around talking on cell phones, what added service can I offer by stopping. I'll just be another vehicle to tie traffic up more, so I keep going. Same goes with a disable vehicle plus if they are within reasonable range of a business with a phone, they can call for help from their. And on and on! So what are my lights for! I help out at several community events throughout the year. When I have to park on, or alongside, city streets I use them to help protect myself, my vehicle and the public around me. Amd I use them for that seldom time when I do actually stop to help someone out. Actually you can call me a wacker if you like, it really matters little to me. All that matters is how the local's see me. And so far in the last two years I've been doing this, not one has ever complained that has be brought to my attention. True, that doesn't mean someone hasn't said something, but unless it is brought to your attention, is it really important? Please remember, and that goes for others on this board, not everyone of us with lights wants to pretend to be anything other than who we are. All some of us want to do is give a little bit back to our community. Not all of us can be LEO's or a firefighter, or anything else related. for any number of reasons. And no, I'm not defending the 17 year old or Brent or Tim or anyone else other than myself! |
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| No, not everyone gets lumped into this category. If you can be of a useful service, then wacker you are not.
If one is a rescue squad brand new member that knows nothing about the craft, flips out and tacks a bunch of lights on thier car and starts running calls = wacker. If one is a ARES monger who has an explosion of amber on the van, solely for the purpose of stopping on highway calls = wacker. As a matter of fact, what I do believe gets overlooked in all of the wackerbashing is the amount of expertise and experience the person involved has. If one has a truck decked out in amber, but holds a portfolio of certifications or was a cop for 10 years, I don't think they should be tagged as such. |
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| Very well said.....i think some here jump to conclusion...but then again, some may have a reason too.
I have been trying to get on a FD for 3 years..and the dept members get to \"vote\" on who is hired....more like they get to pick there friends. Since my app has been in, they have voted n 6 people, 5 of which had no previous training or any idea of what fire service is about. I have an academy, hundreds of hours of school for EMT, a year of fire expirience, 3 of EMS, thousands of EMS calls....yet they tell me \"just keep trying...most guys dont get hooked there first time\" WHAT!!!! Why would a dept hire someone who has 0 qualifications over someone who does...there excuse...\"he can respond during the day\" I can too, just takes me 10 min...and yes 10 min could be a long time in a fire or MVA...I understand..but come on 5 people??? Sounds like a club..not a FD.... And yes, I have lights..and yes i stop to help. Wacker??? nope? Dedicated to helping others??? Yes... |
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| There are more than just that reason given. Take the following example.
Four years ago, knowing many departmental members at a local shopping mall, I applied for a security job. At the time, this was the best paying mall in the area at $11.50/hr new hire. I passed the first 3 phases of hiring. At the last phase, the chief handed off my file to the captain, who went into his office, came back out 5 minutes later, and told me to go home. He said there were no more positions or hours available. Two days later, while talking to a friend on the department, he told me that the same day, they hired an african-american man, a hispanic man, and 3 white women, all of whom had 0 experience. Outcome? EEOC reject (I was too white and too male for the job). Just before that, I had put in an app at another mall's security dept. This place paid very well, and had an \"honest\" director. I applied for an officer position, went to an interview, and was told that I was \"overqualified to be an officer\". The next week, the Lt.'s cousin was hard at work (with no experience) AS THE SERGEANT!!!!!! Outcome? I was fine for the job, but cousin Bill needed work. Not everything boils down to friendsies, however in the more rural area departments, you will witness the good ol' boy system hard at work. |
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| What is the negativity that surrounds the word whacker. Heck, I'd be happy if people called me a whacker. It shows you have a passion for the lights that goes beyond the job, which is a pretty damn rare thing these days. | |
[quote:00f565092e=\"GaryErrol\"]
Interesting. So if someone stops to offer assistance, you automatically tag them as a wacker? |
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| Here we go again. Do me a favor and don't let this escalate into the same BS it always does. This is the one and only warning.... | |

| Whacker can be good and bad.
On my local emergency services forum, we joke about calling eachother whackers, because we keep clothes laid out when we go to bed (in case there's a call) But we also occasionally rag on people with too much lighting. I guess you could sort of compare it to the N word. Between close friends, it's just sort of joking around \"You keep your clothes laid out? What a whacker!\" But it can also be derogatory when someone calls someone outside their circle of friends it. |
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| i like how this guy thinks ^^^ rescue boy^^^ | |

| [quote:92d439283a=\"Skywarn_Stalemate\"]There are more than just that reason given. Take the following example.
Four years ago, knowing many departmental members at a local shopping mall, I applied for a security job. At the time, this was the best paying mall in the area at $11.50/hr new hire. I passed the first 3 phases of hiring. At the last phase, the chief handed off my file to the captain, who went into his office, came back out 5 minutes later, and told me to go home. He said there were no more positions or hours available. Two days later, while talking to a friend on the department, he told me that the same day, they hired an african-american man, a hispanic man, and 3 white women, all of whom had 0 experience. Outcome? EEOC reject (I was too white and too male for the job). Just before that, I had put in an app at another mall's security dept. This place paid very well, and had an \"honest\" director. I applied for an officer position, went to an interview, and was told that I was \"overqualified to be an officer\". The next week, the Lt.'s cousin was hard at work (with no experience) AS THE SERGEANT!!!!!! Outcome? I was fine for the job, but cousin Bill needed work. Not everything boils down to friendsies, however in the more rural area departments, you will witness the good ol' boy system hard at work. |
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[quote:5593df8ab3=\"tvsjr\"][quote:5593df8ab3=\"GaryErrol\"]
Interesting. So if someone stops to offer assistance, you automatically tag them as a wacker? |
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| LOL, he's not referring to you. Obviously, he's referring to his nemesis, Skywarn_stalemate, who posted above in this thread. | |
| [quote:12e910c4b1=\"Colonel\"]tvsjr, surely you aren't referring to me? | |
| He ain't going away I was talking with someone who works for an eqt dealer and found out the kid no longer has the car, and now has a PU. So the first thing he did was go to the store and by some new lighting. Flipping brilliant | |
| [quote:70adc93f04=\"LFD-Mike\"]He ain't going away I was talking with someone who works for an eqt dealer and found out the kid no longer has the car, and now has a PU. So the first thing he did was go to the store and by some new lighting. Flipping brilliant | |
| noticed an MSP-blue CVPI driving past where I work yesterday. Both spotlights were up and pointed straight ahead, unusual, but not unheard of. Then as it got up to where I could see it better, there was some young punk kid in the passenger seat looking around to see who was watching them. As it pulled away, I looked at the plate and couldn't see it real well, but I'm pretty sure it was civilian. So apparently, if I read the situation right, we've got one around here now, too . . . The kid that I saw seemed pretty impressed with himself . . . | |

| [quote:22c2853dd1=\"I 26\"]What is the negativity that surrounds the word whacker. Heck, I'd be happy if people called me a whacker. It shows you have a passion for the lights that goes beyond the job, which is a pretty damn rare thing these days. | |
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