Spec's for new department command/captain's car

Druidman227

Hey all, my department was just told that we are going to be getting either an '03 or '04 CVPI that was used as a patrol unit by the PD to convert to our command/captain's car. being known as \"the light guy\" on the squad i've been asked to help spec out the vehicle. the first thing i was told was that it is NOT to be \"whacked out\" but should provide adequate warning for city style traffic. here's the list of necessary requirements that i was given.

Everything to be LED:
Lightbar (full)
HAW LEDs (Lt. likes the idea of the Whelen HALOs but from what i've seen they're not offered for our model years)
Intersection lights (Lt. likes the 10-75 bracket so Ryan, expect a request for a bid)
Grille lights
Rear Deck lights
Siren/Speaker

100% Volunteer department so funding is limited. let's see what you can come up with.

grfd711

Ok, let's break this down a bit and go from there:

**Lightbar (full)**
If you go for new, I'd do a Whelen Justice. Effective and affordable. Or, hold out for some used bars.

**HAW LEDs** (...Whelen HALOs...not offered for our model...)
Sound Off Signal LEDs in the front corners and Whelen Vertex's in red in the taillights.

**Intersection lights (Lt. likes the 10-75 bracket)**
10-75 bracket w/LEDs should do you pretty good. Just keep in mind about some lights meant to disperse primarily horizontally rather than vertically. Some lights it makes a difference, some it doesn't. Here's another thing to consider, is mirror beams. You can find use mirrorbeams for CVPIs on fleabay pretty regularly now, and they're affordable.

**Grille lights**
You'll have plenty of folks chiming in here about not using linear style lights behind the grille, and I concur. Whelen TIR6/TIR3s, Axixtech LX4s, Sound Off XP63s, Sound Off Predetor IIs are all good choices, though I think the Predetor II's might be a bit more expensive. I'm not gonna go into Code 3 or FedSig, as they're too pricy for my taste.

**Rear Deck lights **
You've got so many options. Honestly, I'd say not to do this if you're gonna do a full size/decked out lightbar. It'll be overkill. Use that money to buy the HAW LEDs. Or, if you don't do a lightbar, then go hog wild on the deck.

**Siren/Speaker**
Unitrol...that's the only way to go. As far as a speaker, whatever you can get that fits. Personally, speakers don't matter all that much to me.

Druidman227

sounds good. for the most part. as far as used equipment, we can't really do that because regulations require that we get a minimum of 3 bids per order so it would all be coming from dealers and such. also for deck lights, we may be going with a liberty with depopulated rear (Corner, light, empty, empty, empty, empty, light, corner) so that's where they come in. also my department has a thing for Whelen sirens so that's probably where that will come from.

Victor185

I like what grfd711 was suggesting...

I think the Justice would be a great lightbar to go with (Good output for a good price). As far as the rest goes, I'd say TIR6's in the Grille, LIN3's or 4's on a 10-75 intersection bracket, Sound-Off Led Haw's up front in the corners and Vertex's in the back. For rear deck warning, how about the CHMSL Talon for the CVPI? And to top it all off, the siren/switchbox of your choosing.

R. Dodd 10-75 E.L.

Liberty with LED TD alleys
400 series LIN12s
10-75 Stealth Intersection Bracket w/ LIN4s
(2) LAWS Front Corners

Rear Deck Talon
Either (2) or (4) rear LAWS
Rear CV LP bracket with Clear LIN3s

Havis Console
Whelen 295SLA6

pdk9

economy liberty or justice
HLF
2 LAWS in Front Corner and 2 in Brake
2 500 series for the grill
Rear LP bracket with lin3's
is it gona come with a pushbumper? if yes, put lin lights on that; if not use 10-75 bracket

jotto desk console
SA315P speaker(s)
295SL siren & light controller, or just the 295 siren and have installer use a few havis rocker switches on a blank face plate to control lighting (might save a lil $ here)

i do like the talon rear deck brake light, so i'd get it if budget permits; if not, the lin3's, HAWs and the lightbar will b more than sufficient. consider a tlf in the rear instead of the HAWs if budget is still tight
good luck

chris55fire

I'll go out and be the voice of FEDSIG for ya!

Legend with TDs and alleys (you can do LED TD and they have a new Legend HOTFOOT)

ViperEXT grills
10-75 Stealth Intersection Bracket w/ Impaxx
(2) LAWS Front Corners

Rear Deck 2 ViperS2 singles
2 red LAWS
Rear CV LP bracket with Clear impaxx

Havis Console or Troy console
PA640
ms100

chris

LED138

[quote:16af1237fb=\"R. Dodd 10-75 E.L.\"]Liberty with LED TD alleys
400 series LIN12s
10-75 Stealth Intersection Bracket w/ LIN4s
(2) LAWS Front Corners

Rear Deck Talon
Either (2) or (4) rear LAWS
Rear CV LP bracket with Clear LIN3s

Havis Console
Whelen 295SLA6

Posted: Wed 5-Nov-2008 12:54 Post subject:

all who sent PMs, thank you and they have been replied to. Steve... yes, ryan is away but like a good whacker he still knows his lights. to all who posted. thank you for your ideas. i'm going back to the squad tonight to discuss these ideas with the upper brass. once we decide on a setup/vendor i'll let you all know and i promise to have plenty of pics.

Posted: Wed 5-Nov-2008 13:00 Post subject: Re:

[quote:4f2ddec084=\"Druidman227\"] also for deck lights, we may be going with a liberty with depopulated rear (Corner, light, empty, empty, empty, empty, light, corner) so that's where they come in.

Posted: Wed 5-Nov-2008 13:07 Post subject:

Mick, i agree with you 100% but with that being said, i'm low-man on the totem pole and was only tasked with this because it was decided that if necessary they could strip my POV to equip the new vehicle.

Posted: Wed 5-Nov-2008 19:12 Post subject:

if it a former patrol unit why not try an get them to leave as much in the car

Posted: Fri 7-Nov-2008 02:05 Post subject:

because the already stripped everything but the Unity from it...

Posted: Fri 7-Nov-2008 18:37 Post subject:

Does it need to be NFPA compliant?

Posted: Sat 8-Nov-2008 00:04 Post subject: some of my idea's

if you guys are going for a low cost whelen bar why not get one that has the 4 dioes pre head instead of the full 6? the SO here did the 4 led modules to the rear, and 6's to the front. I would also agree that deck lights are important, if the trunk is up, and I bet it will be if your using it for command the lightbar will be blocked, I have even added 2 par 36 strobes to the inside of the trunk lid, if you mount the strobe p/s in the trunk, its easy to wire the trigger wire to a switch on the lid so the lights can be switched on and off when working out of the trunk

Posted: Sat 8-Nov-2008 15:03 Post subject: Re:

[quote:e3a31d4839=\"Mark Y.\"]Does it need to be NFPA compliant?

Posted: Sat 8-Nov-2008 15:25 Post subject:

[quote:461ca43e5b=\"Druidman227\"]because the already stripped everything but the Unity from it...

Posted: Sat 8-Nov-2008 22:02 Post subject:

lightbar: Liberty or Justice HAW: Vertex Grille: 2 LIN4 rear: two talons/avengers 1 on both sides of the brake lights Siren: Powercall DX 5200, with a Powercall P200 siren speaker

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