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Robert Neer
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PostPosted: Fri 14-Nov-2008 21:43    Post subject: Motorola Visars Reply with quote

I picked up 6 VHF Visars and a gang charger yesterday. Batteries seem good and the antennas are all there. Anyone know what something like these are worth?

We are getting ready to switch over to our STARCOM21 system through the state. We probably wont be using VHF any longer. So I doubt I'll keep them.
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 11:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really depends on two things: Condition of the radios themselves obviously. And the model number. If the model number ends in DN they are going to be worth more, at least in my opinion. The earlier models (AN, BN, CN) were just not built as well and prone to board and/or flex issues.

I used to have one, and liked it, but was always afraid I'd break it or lose it somewhere.

if you want to maximize you profit, I'd sell them individually. Single radios seem to bring more $$$.
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 12:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple answer, and sorry I have to break it to you... not much - for 6 and a gang charger expect $500 to $700, a little higher even based on condition - there isn't as much demand when compared to some of the other Motorola radios.
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 14:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep them and use them for fire ground use. Granted it's not narrowband, but you can use the first 5 fire ground channels. Starcomm is going to be a long time to roll out as the cost per unit is extremely high and most departments still have plenty of VHF to use. I use Starcomm a lot when I'm working for the state, but the departmental radio is stored in a pelican case and has only been used a couple of times in the past few years.
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 16:17    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:2ee4dd444b=\"Robert W.\"]Simple answer, and sorry I have to break it to you... not much - for 6 and a gang charger expect $500 to $700, a little higher even based on condition - there isn't as much demand when compared to some of the other Motorola radios.


That would work for me. I didn't pay that much for the set.
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 19:42    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:5de78ddac5=\"pondfly\"]Keep them and use them for fire ground use. Granted it's not narrowband, but you can use the first 5 fire ground channels. Starcomm is going to be a long time to roll out as the cost per unit is extremely high and most departments still have plenty of VHF to use. I use Starcomm a lot when I'm working for the state, but the departmental radio is stored in a pelican case and has only been used a couple of times in the past few years.


+1 All of the State interop channels are VHF anyways.

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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that idea if you are still in need of radios for the fireground and have equipment damaging issues.

The other thing I was going to suggest was find a business in your area that is likely need it, and offer it to them at a slightly inflated price - harder to go about doing, but is capable of having a bigger payoff. Then before they get the radios just have them programmed to MURS or one of the \"non-license business\" frequencies used on radios like the CP/XTN series. Just make sure it isn't a franchise/chain business - I find places like landscape centers and small business start-ups like the idea if the need is there
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Nov-2008 20:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya..... Thats what I thought about doing. There are a few new places here in town that I may get to buy them. But we may just hang onto them and use them here for a backup source when our magical /\\/\\ system fails... again Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Nov-2008 08:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

For God's sake don't drop them. Gravity+Visar=bad.
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Nov-2008 08:25    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:b7a16cf9dd=\"ResQguy\"]For God's sake don't drop them. Gravity+Visar=bad.


+1 Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Never gets old...

What are you guys running now for a motorola system?
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Nov-2008 11:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starcom 21.... Its the states radio system.
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Nov-2008 12:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup know all about it... what mobiles/portables do you use, and have you had a chance to use them with SCBAs on, because I want to know if they worked the bugs out of the vocoders on the Motorola digitals
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Nov-2008 12:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

xts 1500 and 2500? We haven't used them with the packs yet. I had heard there is an issue with voice compression or something.
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PostPosted: Mon 17-Nov-2008 08:43    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

I would recommend you keep them OFF the fireground.
There is a high probability that they may get broken. And I would NEVER use one in a life or death situation on a fire scene.

Great radio for administrative duties, not so much for field ops.
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PostPosted: Mon 17-Nov-2008 08:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that for Motorola, those are the most affordable P25 capable radios at the time. Usually when departments spec for new systems, those are recommended. If it were an XTS 5000, I would probably agree with you - those have way more features than FFs ever need.

Vocoder (Voice coder) the thing that turns your voice into 0's and 1's were awful for FF from the beginning, but they have a come a ways.

Orlando was first to see the problems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3y_eVmRbEA

But it appears the bugs are starting to be ironed out of Motorola's vocoder technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OesyV4P8i8

As far as the fire ground.. if you want to carry only 800 MHz radios, I usually recommend one simplex fire ground channel that uses analog, at the end of the dial so it is easy to find.
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PostPosted: Wed 19-Nov-2008 12:55    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:ebe9ae46db=\"TWL911\"]I would recommend you keep them OFF the fireground.
There is a high probability that they may get broken. And I would NEVER use one in a life or death situation on a fire scene.

Great radio for administrative duties, not so much for field ops.


+1 on this!

Our management uses Visars for admin stuff. Security, Housekeeping, and Maintenance use HT750's.

Also, the Visar is a discontinued model.
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PostPosted: Wed 19-Nov-2008 21:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently I use the XTS 5000 model III for my VHF and Starcomm portables. and for mobiles I use a MCS 2000 VHF and a XTL 5000 for the Starcomm. I've had my VHF for over 6 years and it has been trouble free and as of this afternoon I just had the firmware flashed to version 12. Time to play with the digital portions.
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