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Pimpala03
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PostPosted: Tue 4-Apr-2006 04:05    Post subject: Piercing Nozzle Training... Reply with quote

Looking for ideas on how to show the guys the new piercing nozzle. What it's used for, how to use it, what to use it on, etc.

Anyone got any suggestions of some cheap training methods on the piercing nozzle?

Let me know what you've done in the past or any ideas you may have.
Thanks.
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PolarBear
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PostPosted: Tue 4-Apr-2006 05:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found the best training to be \"hands on\". Even if everyone in the class does not take a turn, they will see first hand how it is done.

As a training demonstration, you could get various materials like old car hoods put on saw horses, or aluminum siding propped against a tree, etc, then take turns \"using\" the tools. Think of some scenarios where you may need to use the tool, and then try to set up something in a smaller scale.

Scrap yards, large hardware stores/lumber yards, and construction supply houses always have \"extra\" material they are going to throw away. I have found they are willing to donate this material to the FD for the tax write off. After all, it won�t hurt to ask. The worst that could happen is they could say no.

We used ours during a vehicle extraction class as part of rescue operations. This was the one with the head on a right angle (model 906 K, seen below), when swung like a hammer it penetrates the hood of a car to access the engine compartment without having to open the hood. We demonstrated it on the junk car before we cut it up.

Good luck, Joe

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Pimpala03
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PostPosted: Tue 4-Apr-2006 07:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I was wanting to know, what I could use to demonstrate the thing on... car hoods, etc.
Thanks for the info.
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NPS Ranger
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PostPosted: Fri 7-Apr-2006 09:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Go to your friendly police impound yard or towing company that stores seized vehicles.

2) Look for a late model Mercedes or Bimmer (always train on highest quality panels, so that lesser vehicles will be just that much easier).

3) Set road flare against tire inside front fenderwell. Small splash of gasoline under car and inside front grille is optional.

4) Take a hike for a bit.

5) Return and utilize new piercing nozzle to extinguish fire. Note CO2 usually only effective on engine compartment fires. Once it's gotten into the passenger compartment, by all means put the nozzle through the windshield but be sure and use water.

6) If anyone actually believes this was serious, you must now trade in your lightbar for a Peterson magnet light.
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LFD-Mike
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PostPosted: Fri 7-Apr-2006 10:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually not too far off from a good idea. A passenger compartment fire would be a good way to show the big picture on how it works

Back in boot camp, the DIs had us picturing the freak coming after women driving a BM or MB and that the hood would be a good location for a TH1 thermite grenade
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PolarBear
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PostPosted: Fri 7-Apr-2006 10:34    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:1914520e33=\"NPS Ranger\"]1) Go to your friendly police impound yard or towing company that stores seized vehicles.

2) Look for a late model Mercedes or Bimmer (always train on highest quality panels, so that lesser vehicles will be just that much easier).

3) Set road flare against tire inside front fenderwell. Small splash of gasoline under car and inside front grille is optional.

4) Take a hike for a bit.

5) Return and utilize new piercing nozzle to extinguish fire. Note CO2 usually only effective on engine compartment fires. Once it's gotten into the passenger compartment, by all means put the nozzle through the windshield but be sure and use water.

6) If anyone actually believes this was serious, you must now trade in your lightbar for a Peterson magnet light.


Sounded good to me up till #6 Laughing
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