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Hugh A.
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PostPosted: Fri 14-Apr-2006 20:30    Post subject: Volunteering in the Hurricane Torn Gulf Region Reply with quote

Last night at the fire meeting, we were presented with the option of going down to Gulf Port Mississippi in June to volunteer. From what it sounded like, we would be going down to help with rebuilding homes, but at the same time, we would be provided with whatever equipment we would need to respond to fire calls, etc, just as we would here as vollies. I guess we would respond to the station just as we do here, where we meet with the minimal remains of whatever area FF's there are from that particular dept, and assist them with calls or whatever they need. They advised it would be sometime in mid june and we would leave here on a friday and be gone for a week. Is this something others have heard about? I guess we sent about 10 people down from the county a month ago or so and it was a great experience. I am thinking about doing it myself. I guess there is not much for reconstruction going on since there aren't many jobs down there now and man power is slim to none.
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PostPosted: Fri 14-Apr-2006 22:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are the specific requirements for such ventures?? would like to have more information please thanx
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Apr-2006 10:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

for free?

in any event, there was much grumbling from people that have done this on the fire side as all they did was wade through the nasty sewage laden waters and hand out pamphlets telling people where they can get assistance. i would assume by now that activity has curtailed somewhat, but the big beef with the vollies and others was that only fdny and lafd were allowed to frontline firefight. AGAIN this was relatively soon after the initial hit, like a few months. what's amazing is some vollies were turned away. there was one ambulance service (vol) from the northeast that drove all the way there and were turned around once they got there. i think that may stem from a nationwide commercial ems provider (Another Money Run) who is still receiving $1,000 per hour, per person to be there from FEMA. that does not include the $$ for vehicles and support. even more disgusting about that is they did a \"public service\" video talking about the \"humanitarian effort\" they were providing. of course, no one would run this story because the truth about the greed involved came out... that'll happen...sad, but true. in fact, they would not send anyone there before they were done with negotiations over how much they were going to get paid.
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PostPosted: Sat 15-Apr-2006 10:32    Post subject: Hurricane volunteer Reply with quote

I live in Mississippi and was affected directly by Katrina--we live in the central part of the state, right at Jackson and received winds in excess of 100 mph. I had the opportunity to travel to the Coast and witness first hand the death, destruction, carnage and the overflow of compassion and concern from alot of good people who just gave a damn---the volunteers who came down and offered their assistance, knowledge, compassion, tolerance and love for their fellow man is beyond my words and I can't begin to express my gratitude to those men and women who did and continue to volunteer--the kicker is is that it's just the right thing to do and the blessings that have been and will be bestowed upon these volunteers will flourish. I am proud to be a volunteer firefighter and very much enjoy it. There is no greater payment in my opinion that to have someone say \"thank you\"--and you know they mean it. So I say to you \"THANK YOU\" to all have volunteered and donated.

Be Safe
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Apr-2006 00:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was part of the big FEMA recruitment of firefighters to go down after Katrina hit. Sept 10-16 Atlanta, Sept. 17-Oct 6 Hancock County MS, Nov. 14-Dec.1 TX. Now while this ended up being a paid detail, it was an experience I will never forget and would do it again in a heart beat regaurdless on the $.

Hugh, if you get the chance to go down I would leap at the oppertunity. Even now after things have deminished, the devistation both physicly and emotionly will last a life time. And it sounds like you are set up to do some firefighting when you are there which is always great.

Myron, just a few things.

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all they did was wade through the nasty sewage laden waters and hand out pamphlets telling people where they can get assistance.


You are not the only one that I have heard this from and it always upsets me. I'm sure you are only going off what you have heard and it sounds like you wern't there. These statements were really directed at the 2000 firefighters that were called in for FEMA. Now yes there was a lot of grumbling. As firefighters we wanted to get in there and get our hands dirty. While we didn't do any firefighting that I was aware of, we did do more then hand out pamphlets. What you did was very localized so I can only speak from what my 8 man team did. We were deployed to Hancock County MS and more specificly Waveland and Bay St. Lous as a part of Task Force 89 made up of 96 people. Here we did a wide range of things. We worked with the red cross monitering crowds in the thousands for medical emergencys, passed out snacks and water, helped direct and inform people, unloaded trucks, built shelters from the sun, and signed people up for finacial assistance. We went door to door making welfare checks and delivering water and MREs. We helped people with there newly delivered FEMA trailers when delivery crews failed to do there job. Heck, we even boarded up a supermarket. The main thing is we helped people with whatever they needed and we thought we could do.

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big beef with the vollies and others was that only fdny and lafd were allowed to frontline firefight


That for the most part is true. Classic big UNION citys helping other big UNION citys. However to be honest I'm not sure what some of the smaller towns did. I know in my area we had a lot of Fairfaix county VA units around.(another big place) Either way, its like at the fire ground. We all want to be on the nozzle on the second floor but someone needs to pump the engine. The gulf is just one massive fire ground right now.

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what's amazing is some vollies were turned away. there was one ambulance service (vol) from the northeast that drove all the way there and were turned around once they got there


I thought this sucked to at first but it makes sense when you take a step back and think about it. If the next town over has a fire do you just hop in the rig and head over there? Of course not. You wait to be called. Maybe you head to the station and get ready but you still wait for the call. Another classic case of all the self deploying that went on and all the people that got sent home.

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think that may stem from a nationwide commercial ems provider (Another Money Run)


Yes! Assulted My Rectum strikes again. And you are right there my friend, we all know what they are for.

MississippiPI,
Your fellow statesmen is what made the trip what it was. Like most, before I got to MS I thought I wanted to be in New Orleans and that was where it was a mess. I soon learned that to be false. \"A debry field bigger than England.\" As soon as I arrived in Hancock county I saw what no picture or news camra can convey. On one hand your stomac turns but then again you are glad to be there and can't wait to get to work. I was proud to be in Waveland and Bay St. Louis. I soon refered to the people living there as my people. It was fustraiting to watch the news and see New Orleans this and New Orleans that. What about everyone else? I went to New Orleans after most of the flood water had dissapated and saw a lot of flooded out homes. I was in Waveland and saw blocks and blocks reduced to rubble. Cement slabs and nothing. And now you can tell me anything you want about New Orleans but my heart is forever in MS. I went to help you and raise your spirits, but I feel you have raised mine even more.

Stan
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Apr-2006 02:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

Cut off!!!! Well here is the rest.

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What about everyone else? I went to New Orleans after most of the flood water had dissapated and saw a lot of flooded out homes. I was in Waveland and saw blocks and blocks reduced to rubble. Cement slabs and nothing. And now you can tell me anything you want about New Orleans but my heart is forever in MS. I went to help you and raise your spirits, but I feel you have raised mine even more.

Stan



Yes I just quoted myself.
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Apr-2006 10:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

stan,

i know the vollies did more support tasks than what i wrote, i was jus being lazy...sorry.

the funny thing about that service that was turned away is that they drove all the way down there and people warned them about checking before hand and they didn't care. they didn't want to hear they might be turned back. this same thing happened during 9/11 where not only were vollies showing up and being turned away, but many were trying and successfully getting around road blocks and freelancing. this creates so many problems...we all know you want to help, but...


wessentially you are saying i am right about what i am saying, just with a little clarification....thank you

Another Missed Response
Another Missing Ring
Another Medicare Run
Att's My Ride
American Medical Rideservice
Ambulance Might Respond

and on, and on and on....
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Stan Andriski
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Apr-2006 13:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! Yep! And they never get old thats the best part. Our local 911 likes:

Another Moron Responding

Laughing

But I do have a few friends that work there and like it. All depends which office you are out of I guess.

Anyway, getting off topic.
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PostPosted: Sun 16-Apr-2006 21:51    Post subject: Katrina Volunteers Reply with quote

Myron,

And how much time did you spend down there assisting people? It's easy to be critical and part of the problem and not part of the solution--it's always easier to lend a hand--not point a finger.

Be safe
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PostPosted: Mon 17-Apr-2006 09:16    Post subject: Re: Katrina Volunteers Reply with quote

[quote:7c756da9dc=\"MississippiPI\"]Myron,

And how much time did you spend down there assisting people? It's easy to be critical and part of the problem and not part of the solution--it's always easier to lend a hand--not point a finger.

Be safe


3 weeks.


i hear a toilet....yep.
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Hugh A.
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PostPosted: Mon 17-Apr-2006 10:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

So anyway, to veer back on track, check out www.stowefire.org

This site will show you a little bit about what they have done so far, as well as lead you to a news clip on what they have done. We will be making a trip down again the second or third week of june.
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