Thread: Car is being painted.. but what about my lights for the front?

Here's how our Crown Vic's are set up. This one had an accident with a horse, that's the reason that the grille is off and the front is bent up. The TIR6's are really bright through the honeycomb grille.

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I am wondering if I really need any Mighty Lites or not to mount on my side pushbar.. I dont know if i would really even use them since I have a spotlight. If so Flood or Spot???

only real "need" is to light up both sides instead of scanning the spot since you dont have a bar with alleys. Makes it nice looking for addresses but not getting alot of attention like the spot does.

Ok folks this should be the last questions I hope!

Look at the pics and tell me what you think, the idea popped in my head and I put it up there to see how it looked and was pleased with the look.
Sound Off 4 head ultra-lite mounted on the tag area lip or put a set of LED 3s with tag bracket?
If I do LED3s in blue on the tag then im going to put white LED HAWs in my reverse and red in my brake lights. If I do the 4 head ultra-lite should i still put HAWs in my reverse??

ALSO.... I have mirror intersectors and I had a set of flushmount predators to put on the side of my pushbar BUT now i ordered a set of the flushmount intersectors on my pushbar. Should I go all out and get the predator mirror mounts and mount them on my mirrors AND put the intersectors underneath my mirrors?


Here are the pics I took yesterday to kindoff show what the ultra-lite would look like mounted on tag:

Originally Posted by fireman616wfd

Ok folks this should be the last questions I hope!

Look at the pics and tell me what you think, the idea popped in my head and I put it up there to see how it looked and was pleased with the look.
Sound Off 4 head ultra-lite mounted on the tag area lip or put a set of LED 3s with tag bracket?
If I do LED3s in blue on the tag then im going to put white LED HAWs in my reverse and red in my brake lights. If I do the 4 head ultra-lite should i still put HAWs in my reverse??

ALSO.... I have mirror intersectors and I had a set of flushmount predators to put on the side of my pushbar BUT now i ordered a set of the flushmount intersectors on my pushbar. Should I go all out and get the predator mirror mounts and mount them on my mirrors AND put the intersectors underneath my mirrors?


Here are the pics I took yesterday to kindoff show what the ultra-lite would look like mounted on tag:

come on, noone with an opinion on that? I know you guys have one.

I've never seen a 4 head bar on a license plate, but that looks badass! I'm assuming the 4 head is blue? If so I would personally do clear HAWs in the reverse light if you end up going that route. Try it out, if it ends up being to much then just take it off. But I think it looks great!

Originally Posted by fireman616wfd

come on, noone with an opinion on that? I know you guys have one.

I like it, it's unique...

Originally Posted by Smebdysme1

I've never seen a 4 head bar on a license plate, but that looks badass! I'm assuming the 4 head is blue? If so I would personally do clear HAWs in the reverse light if you end up going that route. Try it out, if it ends up being to much then just take it off. But I think it looks great!

Uh oh, be careful what you say, the "white to the rear" haters might jump you... *sarcasm*

Originally Posted by Smebdysme1

I've never seen a 4 head bar on a license plate, but that looks badass! I'm assuming the 4 head is blue? If so I would personally do clear HAWs in the reverse light if you end up going that route. Try it out, if it ends up being to much then just take it off. But I think it looks great!

Yea its all blue...

It will have a lower rear deck pinnacle all blue with amber ends and that head head ultra-lite mounted on the tage with white led haws and red led haws i think is the setup im going with as long as the light there doesnt get scortched on here lol..


Now I need to figure out flash patterns and stuff for the rear bar, the 4 head and the HAWs (which will be synced of course)

Originally Posted by dcfrmp255

Uh oh, be careful what you say, the "white to the rear" haters might jump you... *sarcasm*

Some how I figured that would come up. Lol. I have yet to understand this "no clear to the rear " rule that alot of people talk about. All the LEOs I've seen down here in Florida run clear HAWs in the reverse lights. I've always thought it looked good. maybe someone could explain there reasoning sometime?

Anyway, back on topic. For the 4 head flash pattern and the HAWs to be synced. I'm thinking a split strobe like pattern on the bar and same for the HAWs. You could have the right half of the bar flash with the left HAW and left side of the bar the right HAW? Hope that paints a picture.

I say run what ya brung. It looks odd to me BUT, I'm sure that it will look BADASS lit up.

I personally don't care about white in the reverse. It is just not that big a deal to me... but then again I am from Florida like the above poster mentioned. I don't care for white anywhere else in the rear there. I think the only other option for the reverse lights would be an amber hideaway to give you some more amber.

I personally like your car. I say deck it out.

Now that you mention it, amber would look good in the reverse area since he mentioned having amber in the back window. But I don't think that was on the list of HAWs? But good idea!

Originally Posted by Smebdysme1

Now that you mention it, amber would look good in the reverse area since he mentioned having amber in the back window. But I don't think that was on the list of HAWs? But good idea!

I would think he could trade some whites for ambers fairly easily. If not and he wanted to get off the sound off... he could buy some super cheap ones. might even be able to get LHA6000's for 20 each

Originally Posted by ar6423

I would think he could trade some whites for ambers fairly easily. If not and he wanted to get off the sound off... he could buy some super cheap ones. might even be able to get LHA6000's for 20 each

Never herd of LHA6000s till now. I had to google to know what you were talking about. Haha. But true on the trade!

Yup....

Hey fireman... should you decide to look for Amber LED's

QueensEMT has some LHA9000's in amber for $35 each. They are 9 led at 3 watt each.

He also has the LHA-6000 (prototype) for $20.00 each and the LHA-4000 for $19.00 each.

Go check out his thread at http://elightbars.org/f16/light-emit...-2012-a-31182/

Originally Posted by fireman616wfd

Now I need to figure out flash patterns and stuff for the rear bar, the 4 head and the HAWs (which will be synced of course)

A nice slow sync'd set up would be the tits...

Originally Posted by ar6423

Yup....

Hey fireman... should you decide to look for Amber LED's

QueensEMT has some LHA9000's in amber for $35 each. They are 9 led at 3 watt each.

He also has the LHA-6000 (prototype) for $20.00 each and the LHA-4000 for $19.00 each.

Go check out his thread at http://elightbars.org/f16/light-emit...-2012-a-31182/

FYI he is a soundoff dealer hence all the soundoff lights....

oh lol... i just figured he had a soundoff connection.. didn't realize he was one... dammit

then he should be able to trade them out for amber.

haha yea i sell sound off so I could get the amber easily but im just not sold on it... I would be the only patrol car in the state with amber in my reverse lights lol. I get enough hell around the department liking 2 amber lightheads in the rear or a TD bar in all amber in a lightbar so lord knows if i put amber in my reverse.

I cant sync the 4 head ultra-lite with the HAWs in my reverse and tailights would be the only problem with that...

Dont listen to them.

One I like white to the rear if it is one or two heads only, not lots. In the reverse lights is the prefect place.

As for the amber DO IT. I bet you anything take your car with amber, and one without. Park them next to each other in the day time, walk 500 feet away turn around, and the one with amber is what you will see over anything.

Blue LEDs are bright, but in the day time, I always have a hard time seeing blue over any other color. I think all emergency vehicles need amber in the rear. More so if they are in a state where blue is the primary warning color, like MS. I used to work in Arkansas. We were on the state line with MO. So we had Red and Blue bars. The county had all blue, state troopers all blue, and some cities near us had all blue. Troopers had some amber in the rear, and the amber can be seen LONG before the TIR6 Blue light heads in their liberties. We had Edge bars with red and blue to the front and rear with amber rear flashers. One bar had a Amber and Blue flasher and even the halogen amber drowned out the blue halogen flasher.


I would go with the four head, HAW in corners and the white in the reverse lights.

Originally Posted by PTRJason

Dont listen to them.

One I like white to the rear if it is one or two heads only, not lots. In the reverse lights is the prefect place.

As for the amber DO IT. I bet you anything take your car with amber, and one without. Park them next to each other in the day time, walk 500 feet away turn around, and the one with amber is what you will see over anything.

Blue LEDs are bright, but in the day time, I always have a hard time seeing blue over any other color. I think all emergency vehicles need amber in the rear. More so if they are in a state where blue is the primary warning color, like MS. I used to work in Arkansas. We were on the state line with MO. So we had Red and Blue bars. The county had all blue, state troopers all blue, and some cities near us had all blue. Troopers had some amber in the rear, and the amber can be seen LONG before the TIR6 Blue light heads in their liberties. We had Edge bars with red and blue to the front and rear with amber rear flashers. One bar had a Amber and Blue flasher and even the halogen amber drowned out the blue halogen flasher.


I would go with the four head, HAW in corners and the white in the reverse lights.

You are absolutely right about the blue during the day. Florida DOT runs all blue liberty bars with blue CHMSL talons and some have blue tir3s on the LP and even with all that you can barely notice it till your right on them.

And your right about syncing the bar and the HAWs, I didn't think about that.

dont know how I would beable to sync all that together..??

is your dog a dual purpose or single purpose? If it's dual purpose you could also hook something to the door that the door popper is hooked too so that when the door pops open a light flashes from the door. Sounds ludicrous to some people but I've hit the door popper on my door and it from getting hit by another deputy pulling off to the side of my car.

Originally Posted by fireman616wfd

dont know how I would beable to sync all that together..??

I dont think you can. My only peeve is when all the lights that are the same style, size, etc, are not synced. But when they are different lights, and have their own purpose, they should not be synced.

The LAW in the tail lights should only be synced with the ones in the reverse lights, their purpose is warning as well as showing the profile width of the unit.
I like a strobe pattern of Xx - Xx -, then - Xx - Xx, Xx - Xx -, - Xx - Xx. Where the drivers side red flashes with the pass side reverse then the drivers reverse with the pass tail.


The bar should have its only pattern, slow, attention getting, as it has its own purpose, warning.


My only real suggestion is if you have a HAW system that is also in the front corners and able to do selective switching. You can have the tail lights on position 1 or on 1 switch, and then the reverse light whites and front corners on position 3 or another switch. So if you do not want all the light to the rear, you can still have HAW flashing to the rear, but not the white, if you do not need it. Or say you are primary unit, and other officers stop behind you. You can knock down you warning so it is not flashing in their units, cameras, eyes, or lighting up the interior of their cars.

Same with the rear bar, you can have it on position 2 or 3.

Not everything needs to come on at one, just one pair of lights to the rear is all that is needed sometime.

When I do my install on my expedition I am going to have LP lights, HAW strobes, signal master, and flashers mounted to the rear.

Position one will be end lamps on SM flashing, and HAW strobes
Position two will be end lamps, cudas, and HAWs
Position three, SM going to in-out pattern, cudas, LP, and HAWS, and maybe white strobes in reverse lights.

I also plan on hooking my HLF, front corner lamps, and white reverse lamps to park kill, with a override, so if I am stopped, I can decide, when I want white light on or off.

Originally Posted by ar6423

is your dog a dual purpose or single purpose? If it's dual purpose you could also hook something to the door that the door popper is hooked too so that when the door pops open a light flashes from the door. Sounds ludicrous to some people but I've hit the door popper on my door and it from getting hit by another deputy pulling off to the side of my car.

I forgot all about that. VERY good idea. Out K-9 units popper is on the pass side. And the officer had wanted to put a flashing red TIR-3 or something on the door that will flash when it is open, along with reflective tape. He has also though of having a decal on it saying something "If door is open, dog is out."

Kind of like a warning to just keep on your feet, as dog may have be released off leash, to chase someone or something.

Yeah, I've trained everyone on my shift to know that if they see the door light on (thought about using green so they see it as something different) they need to be cautious with how they are driving to the scene. I may be fighting with someone and want them to come in a hurry, but I don't want them clipping my dog as they are trying to get to me quick because the dog may be our best tool. If you do this, wire it to a switch you don't usually use. Mine is hooked to the power window lock button. It is on all the time unless I hit that button in case I need to deploy tactically under the cover of darkness. Just make sure that is the only time you use it. One of the other handlers I put this light on for just uses the opposite door if he needs to do something in the dark. He didn't want a seperate switch.

My door pops on the driver side. I prefer it on the driver side despite it opening into traffic. The reason for this is i have seen time and time again where a handler has called a dog from the passenger side as he is getting out of his driver door. The dog gets target lock on someone completely not even around. Sometimes at the end of a pursuit cops don't turn their sirens off so it is impossible for the dog to hear you yelling commands. I'd rather have him have a visual of me so I can control him with signals. I've actually seen a handler and a dog run circles around the patrol car trying to find each other at a multi agency workshop.

would it look cleaner if I mounted some ghost there instead of that 4 head ultralite? or tag lights?

just saying that because I can sync the ghost or tag led3s and cant the ultra-lite.

Originally Posted by fireman616wfd

would it look cleaner if I mounted some ghost there instead of that 4 head ultralite? or tag lights?

just saying that because I can sync the ghost or tag led3s and cant the ultra-lite.

I think so.. and I'm sure you would get the same light output or close to it.

sync the ghost on the tage with the HAWs in the reverse lights and taillights or let the ghost run a seperate pattern from the HAWs?

there are three different ways you could do it.

1) You could sync the driver side tag light ghost with the passenger side LAW and vice versa for the other two that way you can have them fire in a semi "x" pattern.

2) you could sync the tag light ghost to each other and then the LAWs to each other and have the LAWs fire during the off time of the tag lights.

3) you could have the tag light ghost synched to each other and flash one pattern (say fast) then have the LAWS fire a different pattern(much faster) or vice versa.

Personally, I would prefer option 1 or option 2 if I made that clear. I just think it would provide a much cleaner look. I do like mixing up flash pattern speeds at various levels... but they are so close to each other that I think synching them would be your best bet to avoid a constant blur of light.


***Disclaimer*** I am by NO means a lighting expert. As a matter of fact I am very new to this as I joined the site a couple months ago to learn about this.