Old thread edit

[scruffythewild]

Yeah....this was an old stupid thread of mine that I am closing..

[EMT-BLS]

Simply put...no. If you want to be able to run on EMS calls legally, you will need to comply with the law. Sell some of your other lights, get green, and get a separate switch for it.

[scruffythewild]

Simply put...no. If you want to be able to run on EMS calls legally, you will need to comply with the law. Sell some of your other lights, get green, and get a separate switch for it.

I know what the law is...what i'm asking is does anybody do this? Thanks though, Rob

[Zapp Brannigan]

Simply put...no. If you want to be able to run on EMS calls legally, you will need to comply with the law. Sell some of your other lights, get green, and get a separate switch for it.

I know what the law is...what i'm asking is does anybody do this? Thanks though, Rob

I think you answered your own question!!

If you know what the law is, WHY ARE YOU ASKING?!?!?

[unlisted]

Yes there are users from ny state who are in the same situation as you and have to run proper colors. As you mentioned its illegal and I'm sure you don't want to be kicked off your depts for illegal lighting use. (in addition to tickets)

Purchase some lights and run the proper colors. It's not that hard.

[Zapp Brannigan]

Yes there are users from ny state who are in the same situation as you and have to run proper colors. As you mentioned its illegal and I'm sure you don't want to be kicked off your depts for illegal lighting use. (in addition to tickets)

Purchase some lights and run the proper colors. It's not that hard.

This thread is a little reminiscent of:
wigwag headlights. are they legal on personal vehicles in NY?

[C420sailor]

I know a guy who is in a VAC, installed thousands of dollars of blue lights in his car, only to receive serious pushback from his EMS chief and local police. So what'd he do? He joined a VFD and mutual aids another for EMS calls, thus validating his blue lights. He also has two sirens, a rumbler/howler, and about four radios and a scanner---for god knows what. But my truck is pretty buffy so I can't really talk.

Some of the guys I know who do the VFD/VAC thing have some pretty slick setups. A green dash light on a cig cord, hard mount blue lights to the front on one switch, white lights on another (strobes, HLF, etc), and red/amber to the rear on yet another switch. Technically illegal, but it allows them to have rear lighting, and a choice between green/white and blue/white to the front. If you tend to do more VAC runs than VFD runs, you might want to go with a blue dashlight and green hard mounted lights instead.

[EMT-BLS]

I know what the law is...what i'm asking is does anybody do this? Thanks though, Rob

So, to rephrase your question, you want other board members to admit that they have/use illegal lighting?

[Steve0625]

There's always another one who wants to stick his foot in the molten lava to see if it really is hot. (sigh!)

[scruffythewild]

LOL! It's just a question. I was curious thats all...sheesh. Thanks to the responses though anyway.

[911]

i can see it being legal only if the agency runs ems calls also...

but then again, its just another stupid post of yours !!!

[ryan81986]

"I know it isn't legal but I want to see if I can get away with it anyway"

[EMT-BLS]

but then again, its just another stupid post of yours !!!

+1. This is turning into a standard type of question for the OP.

LOL! It's just a question.

Sure it was.

[bwoodruff]

Up until very recently (I have a thread on it) my ambulance let fire department members run blue for EMS calls. We used to be one agency (fire/EMS) but split probably... 5 or so years ago. Now they are issuing green light cards for anyone who wants to run lights. No more blue lights allowed.

[scruffythewild]

I'm so loved

[scruffythewild]

To 911/EMT-BLS: All of my posts are valid and sincere posts. These are real questions that I have that may be pretty obvious for you but not for me. (I will admit that my Slim-Lighter post was pretty dumb though.)

[NJEMT]

Or another option is, dont run lights, like NJ they are about as useful as a poopy flavored popsicle.

[theroofable]

Or another option is, dont run lights, like NJ they are about as useful as a poopy flavored popsicle.

You must be thinking of another NJ. In the NJ I live in, people must and do yield for my blue lights.

[scruffythewild]

You must be thinking of another NJ. In the NJ I live in, people must and do yield for my blue lights.

I always thought Jersey was like NY, a courtesy state. No?

[Ipuvaepe]

I always thought Jersey was like NY, a courtesy state. No?

Courtesy light state? Yes - Like NY? No.

New York restricts lights much more heavily than NJ and PA. NJ also has a mandatory-yield law for blue lights.

[scruffythewild]

Courtesy light state? Yes - Like NY? No.

New York restricts lights much more heavily than NJ and PA. NJ also has a mandatory-yield law for blue lights.

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.

[Wigwam700]

Or another option is, dont run lights, like NJ they are about as useful as a poopy flavored popsicle.

Yum!!

[NJEMT]

You must be thinking of another NJ. In the NJ I live in, people must and do yield for my blue lights.

Well I live in North Jersey. I say they are useless because what is the point of going around someone only to then have to sit at traffic lights. How much time do you really save, 1 minute. To me not worth it to have them, with the higher possiblity of getting into an accident.

[philyumpshus]

I know a guy who is in a VAC, installed thousands of dollars of blue lights in his car, only to receive serious pushback from his EMS chief and local police. So what'd he do? He joined a VFD and mutual aids another for EMS calls, thus validating his blue lights. He also has two sirens, a rumbler/howler, and about four radios and a scanner---for god knows what. But my truck is pretty buffy so I can't really talk.

Some of the guys I know who do the VFD/VAC thing have some pretty slick setups. A green dash light on a cig cord, hard mount blue lights to the front on one switch, white lights on another (strobes, HLF, etc), and red/amber to the rear on yet another switch. Technically illegal, but it allows them to have rear lighting, and a choice between green/white and blue/white to the front. If you tend to do more VAC runs than VFD runs, you might want to go with a blue dashlight and green hard mounted lights instead.

Not to split hairs but running white with blue or green lights is not legal in NY state. Also, red isn't legal if you're running blues as the primary color.

[theroofable]

Well I live in North Jersey. I say they are useless because what is the point of going around someone only to then have to sit at traffic lights. How much time do you really save, 1 minute. To me not worth it to have them, with the higher possiblity of getting into an accident.

Depends on the traffic. The more traffic, the more time saved. Cant help you with the traffic lights. Although if they save you a full minute, that sounds like plenty to be worth it to me. If using lights makes you have accidents, maybe you should stay away from emergency vehicles in general.

[NJEMT]

Depends on the traffic. The more traffic, the more time saved. Cant help you with the traffic lights. Although if they save you a full minute, that sounds like plenty to be worth it to me. If using lights makes you have accidents, maybe you should stay away from emergency vehicles in general.

I dont get into accidents. But you know people can't drive in the first place, add 1 thing that changes the way traffic flows and people panic and do irrational things. And I have to deal with New Yorkers here that have no idea how to drive.

[Zapp Brannigan]

And all of this BS about NJ has what to do with the original topic???