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July 2nd, 2012, 03:24 PM #1Author of This ThreadMemberLaw EnforcementPolice/EMSEmergency Management
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Mississippi Gulf Coast310 PostsPush bumper lights
I am installing a push bumper on my 2010 Dodge ram and want some really, really, really bright lights (drive a lot on non-lit, country roads) to use on the road that won't drain my battery. Suggestions????????
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:30 PM #2
Whelen now offers the Micro Pioneer. Our rep brought some in last Friday and man, those things are bright!
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:41 PM #3
Micro Pioneer, Pioneer, pioneer plus, or anything by rigid.
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:53 PM #4VeteranProfessional UpfitterDealer
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Ocoee, Florida1,064 PostsRigid dually D2's in flood or spot. or a 30" rigid E series in combo beam
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:58 PM #5VeteranFire FighterLaw EnforcementDealer
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Webster County, MS1,545 Posts
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July 2nd, 2012, 04:00 PM #6
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July 2nd, 2012, 04:08 PM #7VeteranFire FighterLaw EnforcementDealer
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Webster County, MS1,545 Posts
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July 2nd, 2012, 04:36 PM #8
I threw on a pair of Hella driving lights on my 09 Ram...they work really well, and the pair cost me $100.
Some people couldn't get it together even if it came in a combo!
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July 2nd, 2012, 04:44 PM #9GuruProfessional UpfitterCommunicationsVolunteer Fire/EMT
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Factoryville, PA, USA3,914 Posts- Boulder
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July 2nd, 2012, 05:01 PM #10VeteranProfessional UpfitterDealer
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Ocoee, Florida1,064 PostsIf you want halogen I also sell hella and KC lights not only rigid leds also lightforce HID offroad lights
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July 2nd, 2012, 07:01 PM #11MemberLaw EnforcementProfessional Upfitter
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Tennessee420 PostsIf it was my truck, I's have a hard time choosing between a pair of Whelen's Micro Pioneers or a pair of their PAR46 spot/warn lights in the rubber housing with swivel bracket version, which allows for separate switching of spot & warn functions. I currently have a pair of Micro Pioneers mounted behind the grille of my cruiser and they are impressive. I also have the post-mount spotlight PAR46 spot/warn and it is also impressive...
FWIW, video doesn't do any of the lighting on this car justice.
Driving with the Micros is a whole new experience. I have photos showing the difference between high beams and micros...easily double the forward visibility, more like 2.5 to 3 times in most situations. Plus, everything reflective lights up for over a half mile on straight-a-ways. Have to believe, but they are very good lights. Plus, they come with 4 lenses to allow you to tailor the beam to your needs...spot, flood, wide flood, and horizontal flood. Add a flasher and you have impressive warning and traffic moving ability.
Look, you have a nice truck that you're proud of. Add some good lights. Halogen is cheaper, but I think LED is the way to go. HID performance at a better price. These Whelen's products are made in the USA and will give you pride of ownership and knowing that you have something that very few others even know exist. If you think Whelen's pricing is high, then you haven't really looked at the truck/suv accessory lighting market...
Highbeams:

Micro Pioneers:

Note pedestrian on left shoulder. I have the spot lenses installed and remember, these are behind the grille in my car, which limits the beam a bit. One prevented pedestrian/deer/dog/debris strike easily covers the modest cost of a pair of good lights.Last edited by C2Installs; July 2nd, 2012 at 07:20 PM.
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July 2nd, 2012, 08:10 PM #12
Quoted for GOSPEL. Just on my POV driving the Alcan highway, the lights on my blazer and silverado saved thousands of $$ worth of body damage avoiding bear, moose, buffalo, and caribou.
What's the going price for those mini-pioneers? I'd like to see how they do in a side-by-side comparison to the same size Rigid unit... but the Rigid's don't have a choice with lensing, like the mini's do. The 8 degree vertical by 40 degree horizontal sounds like it would be fantastic for my needs.
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July 2nd, 2012, 09:54 PM #13VeteranProfessional UpfitterDealer
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Ocoee, Florida1,064 Postsyes they do. spot, flood, driving, 60 degree.....
http://www.rigidindustries.com/v/rig...t/duallyd2.pdf
http://www.rigidindustries.com/v/rig...int/dually.pdf
this is mine in flood pattern

Last edited by Jamey@NNE; July 2nd, 2012 at 10:50 PM.
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July 2nd, 2012, 09:56 PM #14MemberProfessional UpfitterParamedicDealer
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USA Wisconsin79 PostsLightforce is a hell of a light. I had them on my truck.
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July 2nd, 2012, 11:02 PM #15
Honestly, I'm not really impressed with what I get out of my 240 blitzes... high power drain, generally bleh patterns across the board regardless of lensing, and black spots due to the reflector and focus design.
That, and they're huge. All the lightforces I've used for work or on my own have suffered from the same issues... specifically, focus like a bulbed Maglite.
NNE, Unless they've changed things up, Rigids are available from the factory with various lens configurations.... but they're not user configurable. You buys your toys and you takes your chances... unlike being able to configure to your tastes or needs at the consumer level with the Whelens.
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July 2nd, 2012, 11:07 PM #16VeteranProfessional UpfitterDealer
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Ocoee, Florida1,064 Postsi get what your saying now. IMO i dont like switchable lenses on work lights or driving lights because for it to be efficient it would need to replace everything infront of the led itself not just the last lens.
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July 3rd, 2012, 07:39 AM #17Author of This ThreadMemberLaw EnforcementPolice/EMSEmergency Management
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Mississippi Gulf Coast310 PostsHella 770's
Thanks for all the input. I decided to go with the Hella 770's with the HID conversion. I would love to get the Whelen lights but $250.00 each is a bit out of my budget. Thank you all again for your thoughts.
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July 3rd, 2012, 08:28 AM #18
what did the 770's run ya? hope you post some pictures or video later when you get them installed!
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July 3rd, 2012, 09:31 AM #19Author of This ThreadMemberLaw EnforcementPolice/EMSEmergency Management
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Mississippi Gulf Coast310 PostsHella 770's
They were 72.49 delivered from Amazon.com. I had a set of HID's (which I think I paid 40.00 for them). I will post picks and video.
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July 5th, 2012, 03:48 PM #20VeteranFire FighterLaw EnforcementDealer
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Webster County, MS1,545 PostsQuestion Guys....
Whats the Difference in a Whelen Pioneer and a Whelen WL200 Model that looks just like a Pioneer?
Do yall consider this a Pioneer? This is the only thing I can pull up is this one from Ebay..
Whelen Super LED Dual Floodlight | eBay



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