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    Blue outer and red inner lights? who had this set-up?

    Which police or fire dept.'s used blue outboard warning lights/lenses with red inboard warning lights/lenses? or was it red outboard and blue inboard? not sure.....pics would be appreciated!

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    Nevada Highway Patrol used that on there mini bars. BRRB
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    some NJ fire depts used that set up as well...
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    Eric,

    I know Scranton, PA PD used red/blue Aerodynics, as pictured in Motorolamaniac's collection below (right side fifth bar down). They were blue outers and red inners.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ERIC6913 View Post
    Which police or fire dept.'s used blue outboard warning lights/lenses with red inboard warning lights/lenses? or was it red outboard and blue inboard? not sure.....pics would be appreciated!
    I was thinking that Chicago used blue outer and in the rear had red inner can lights. also saw the same set up on whelen 9000 bars, blue strobes on outside and red center flashers in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSkip View Post
    I was thinking that Chicago used blue outer and in the rear had red inner can lights. also saw the same set up on whelen 9000 bars, blue strobes on outside and red center flashers in the rear.
    I think those can lights on the MARS bars were, blue flasher to the front and red to the rear were extra brake lights. The Whelen 9000 bars may have been set up the same way.
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    I know that Baltimore County Md Police use to run Aerodynics with Blue on the outside and red on the inside, I thing Prince Georges County did something similar. Personally I like that look alot better than the typical red on one side and blue on the other.

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    Thank you so far for the info and pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50theman View Post
    I think those can lights on the MARS bars were, blue flasher to the front and red to the rear were extra brake lights. The Whelen 9000 bars may have been set up the same way.
    Im not sure, I always saw them flash at the same time together. My mars bar was wired up that way too.

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    Not vintage and for sure not collectible, but the Vistas have outer blue strobes and inner red strobe or fast rotator. New LED bars are the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by topsfield133 View Post
    Personally I like that look alot better than the typical red on one side and blue on the other.
    Me, too!!

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    Texas has used red/blue combinations for many years. When Texas DPS went to the old Visi-Bars in the mid-60s, they were all red; but years later went to red on the left and blue on the right. In Texas, red is the prescribed emergency color, with blue allowed as an auxilliary color. Therefore, blue isn't allowed in the primary positon. However, I have seen on a couple of occasions on law-enforcement vehicles and ambulances, where blue was in the primary position; but no one bothered them. Now, in Texas, there is no restriction as to who can use what color on emergency vehicles. But a few years ago a friend of mine who was fire chief in the small town of Hawley, TX (N.E. of Abilene) said that his men had been hassled by DPS troopers while resopnding on fire calls because they had blue in their POV lights (light bars, grill lights, etc.). They were actually cited because the troopers claimed that blue is restricted to law enforcement, and it's not! My friend spoke to the DPS office in Austin, and their PIO sent him a letter stating that blue was fine in conjunction with existing red, and that blue was not reserved for any particular agency or department. He made copies of that letter and now all his firemen and medics keep that letter with them. Go figure!

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    Yes, Baltimore County PD has this set up on the several remaining Aerodynic bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M. View Post
    Yes, Baltimore County PD has this set up on the several remaining Aerodynic bars.
    Indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by toon80 View Post
    Whoa, those old AeroDynics look great on the newer Crown Vics! Good find, Toon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownVic97 View Post
    Whoa, those old AeroDynics look great on the newer Crown Vics! Good find, Toon!


    The AeroDynics always look cool!

    Thanks, CrownVic97!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M. View Post
    Yes, Baltimore County PD has this set up on the several remaining Aerodynic bars.
    I like them on the newer cars !! Is that you in the picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillyrube View Post
    Not vintage and for sure not collectible, but the Vistas have outer blue strobes and inner red strobe or fast rotator. New LED bars are the same.

    And they look like shit. I see VBPD's grille and deck lights long before I see the strobe Vistas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plybeep68 View Post
    I like them on the newer cars !! Is that you in the picture?
    If you mean me, no. Just a google search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Goulet View Post
    Texas has used red/blue combinations for many years. When Texas DPS went to the old Visi-Bars in the mid-60s, they were all red; but years later went to red on the left and blue on the right. In Texas, red is the prescribed emergency color, with blue allowed as an auxilliary color. Therefore, blue isn't allowed in the primary positon. However, I have seen on a couple of occasions on law-enforcement vehicles and ambulances, where blue was in the primary position; but no one bothered them. Now, in Texas, there is no restriction as to who can use what color on emergency vehicles. But a few years ago a friend of mine who was fire chief in the small town of Hawley, TX (N.E. of Abilene) said that his men had been hassled by DPS troopers while resopnding on fire calls because they had blue in their POV lights (light bars, grill lights, etc.). They were actually cited because the troopers claimed that blue is restricted to law enforcement, and it's not! My friend spoke to the DPS office in Austin, and their PIO sent him a letter stating that blue was fine in conjunction with existing red, and that blue was not reserved for any particular agency or department. He made copies of that letter and now all his firemen and medics keep that letter with them. Go figure!
    This doesn't answer the OP's question. They weren't asking what agencies use a combination of red/blue lightbars, they're asking if there were any agencies that used red/blue on one side of the lightbar like the examples given above. For example, were there any agencies that used an AeroDynic that had two blue outboard sections and two blue inboard sections. Obviously, the Scranton Police did use that particular setup as referenced in the picture. On my next JetSonic filter change, I'm probably going to make them all blue with the interior takedown section red.

    And Chicago lightbars use red as mirrors to their brake lights and turn signals. The Mars lightbars had lue to the front and red to the rear. The Whelen Edge bars were the same. The red to the rear would activate with the brake lights and the turn signals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman View Post
    Eric,

    I know Scranton, PA PD used red/blue Aerodynics, as pictured in Motorolamaniac's collection below (right side fifth bar down). They were blue outers and red inners.



    awesome collection, very nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg0223 View Post
    This doesn't answer the OP's question. They weren't asking what agencies use a combination of red/blue lightbars, they're asking if there were any agencies that used red/blue on one side of the lightbar like the examples given above. For example, were there any agencies that used an AeroDynic that had two blue outboard sections and two blue inboard sections. Obviously, the Scranton Police did use that particular setup as referenced in the picture. On my next JetSonic filter change, I'm probably going to make them all blue with the interior takedown section red.

    And Chicago lightbars use red as mirrors to their brake lights and turn signals. The Mars lightbars had lue to the front and red to the rear. The Whelen Edge bars were the same. The red to the rear would activate with the brake lights and the turn signals.
    I stand corrected! Thanks. Our VFD ran the economy Code 3 lightbars that had four rotators and mirrors. Those bars had clear domes with red and blue filters each side. Originally they were all red to the outside and blue to the inside for both sides, but on some we switched them around to have the colors in alternating succession.

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    I'll have to try and find some pics, but I know of a few CA agencies you used all blue bars, with at least one steady red. Mainly Aerodynic's

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedsig7 View Post
    I'll have to try and find some pics, but I know of a few CA agencies you used all blue bars, with at least one steady red. Mainly Aerodynic's
    Isn't blue rather new for use in California? I have a good friend who is a fire captain/medic in Ventura Co., and he's always talking about how recently blue has been allowed in SoCal. I know they still have to have at least one steady-burn red per CA law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Goulet View Post
    Isn't blue rather new for use in California? I have a good friend who is a fire captain/medic in Ventura Co., and he's always talking about how recently blue has been allowed in SoCal. I know they still have to have at least one steady-burn red per CA law.
    Im not sure but I know CHP and LAPD have used red/blue combo for many years

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    I think California was all red until the '70s.

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    I think CHP went to red and blue when they started installing CTS TwinSonics (mid-70's I expect), and LAPD went red and blue when they started using the Aerodynic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C420sailor View Post
    And they look like shit. I see VBPD's grille and deck lights long before I see the strobe Vistas.
    Yep...a business within the city bid for Whelen LED bars, complete with 2 laptops to program them with, but the city , or rather, the city dump on Leroy Drive choose to pay more from a business that starts with "A". Go figure!! I always wonder why EMS has much better lighting schemes on the same type cars.

 

 
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