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[Jarred J.]

attention watchers...


mute the audio after 3 minutes unless you want to hear a diesel engine running for 6 minutes.


are you responding with no lights?


all i heard was a pager call and what was the nature of the call, camera in a bag?

[vc859]

I was asked by the Chief to not take them anymore. Did not get a specific reason other than liability issues.

I have ideas, but I will keep them to myself, LOL.

Chris

Would it have something to do with the driving skills, or lack thereof, of some of the apparatus operators, and how the chief doesn't want that on camera?

[VASLights]

I have a large collection of dashcam videos but this I find entertaining and hope you guys do as well. It takes place in NYC the night after the 2010 Blizzard. Hours after the last flake fell, the streets were still horrible slowing response times.
I was responding to a cardiac arrest for my vollunteer ambulance company and it took nearly 4x longer than it should have. You can see the cars blocking most roads and nyc mta buses all over abandoned blocking many intersection. Good news was that the pt was revived but ultimately expired in the ER later that night.

[charlie82]

have no clue why they are driving so slowly. Honestly, learn to drive in the snow. We roll code a lot faster than that in Maine, with a lot more snow. They are being too cautious.

[TritonBoulder47]

1. We have a dedicated response thread - http://elightbars.org/f35/official-r...o-thread-9965/

2. There isn't that much snow on the ground... I'd take one of my 2WD Ambulances in that...

3. Regardless of the Road Condistions, you blew threw 4 red lights. Then used your siren to clear the intersection where you had the green...


I think someone needs to go back to EVOC...

[Rofocowboy84]

have no clue why they are driving so slowly. Honestly, learn to drive in the snow. We roll code a lot faster than that in Maine, with a lot more snow. They are being too cautious.

This happens all of the time in PA, it's like people forget that we are a "Northern-ish" state and do tend to get some snow in the winter. So far it's been fairly mild, but two weeks ago we got like 4 inches. People were clearing out the supermarkets the night before, and driving slow as hell when it started falling. It's just a little bit of snow people, c'mon!

Last winter I got out of work in the middle of a storm, and since it was 2200, the plows had pretty much given up for the night, so I was driving on roads with about a foot of snow on them. Stick it in 4WD and go, not that hard. Of course it helps to have BFG A/T's, lol...

The main problem is that most people can't drive worth a shit to begin with, add something like snow and their brain just shuts down...

[Rofocowboy84]

3. Regardless of the Road Condistions, you blew threw 4 red lights. Then used your siren to clear the intersection where you had the green...

Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Roll through red lights with no siren, then come up to a green and "Woop Woop!"

[Jarred J.]

no flash back from warning lights must mean no warninglights were used?

[TritonBoulder47]

no flash back from warning lights must mean no warninglights were used?

I knew I forgot something... But I think this is the vehicle being used... http://elightbars.org/f35/98-jeep-gr...fly-car-26669/

So maybe those lights aren't that great...? lol

[VASLights]

1. We have a dedicated response thread - http://elightbars.org/f35/official-r...o-thread-9965/

2. There isn't that much snow on the ground... I'd take one of my 2WD Ambulances in that...

3. Regardless of the Road Condistions, you blew threw 4 red lights. Then used your siren to clear the intersection where you had the green...


I think someone needs to go back to EVOC...

I understand the confusion, however there was about 2ft of snow on the ground, and we didn’t have snow tires. I’m sure in Maine the city doesn’t get crippled from 3ft of snow. This storm however wasn’t the real story. The main problem was that the NYC Sanitation Dept decided to get back at the Mayor because he just laid off hundreds of them, so they didn’t plow anything for hours in an attempt to make him look bad. (That backfired though) By the time their plows started rolling, they too were getting stuck. You may not realize that many of the streets were supposed to be 4 lanes across but where down to just the center/median and remained that way for days. By the end of that night, we had to start transporting pts in suvs because many of the buses were not moving.
As for the red lights, you may not have noticed but the side streets were all 2ft deep and were only snow banks, so there was no cross traffic possible no matter what you were driving. We had to park our vehicles a block or 2 away from the calls because the side roads were impassable. My partner and I had to carry a dialysis pt in APE a block to our suv just to transport him. I saw videos of Fire Engines stuck. So no we weren’t concerned with cross traffic on those side streets. It was the few main avenues that were somewhat clear and being that for the most part emergency vehicles where the only ones on the road, GREEN or Red was irrelevant, hence the "woop woops" at GREEN.
It truly was an unbelievable site. In my 30+yrs, I have never, nor do I think I will ever see the city as bad as it was then. It really was the perfect storm. Heavy snowfall compounded by politics as usual.

[TritonBoulder47]

Uhm, yeah, you totally didn't get anything from my post... Like I said, regardless of road conditions, you still need to abide by the rules of Emergency Vehicle Operation... But its obvious that you aren't getting it...

[iceman4122]

Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Roll through red lights with no siren, then come up to a green and "Woop Woop!"

You have to understand the side streets off of main roads didn't see a plow for days. If you see on isthe video every time he passes the red light there is a wall of snow and a street with 2ft plus of unplowed snow. With it being late at night and considering the fact that no cars would be coming from any of these streets I dont think it was such a bad idea to roll through.

[theroofable]

You have to understand the side streets off of main roads didn't see a plow for days. If you see on isthe video every time he passes the red light there is a wall of snow and a street with 2ft plus of unplowed snow. With it being late at night and considering the fact that no cars would be coming from any of these streets I dont think it was such a bad idea to roll through.

I agree with this. Not only the fact that nothing could drive there, it would be illegal for them to. If it was a state of emergency, it would be illegal to drive, and if they did bump into another car, it would be the car with the green would be at fault.

[NJEMT]

I agree with this. Not only the fact that nothing could drive there, it would be illegal for them to. If it was a state of emergency, it would be illegal to drive, and if they did bump into another car, it would be the car with the green would be at fault.

In my town the day of the bizzard no one was moving on any streets. I was cali rolling all the stop signs and red lights.

[unlisted]

You have to understand the side streets off of main roads didn't see a plow for days. If you see on isthe video every time he passes the red light there is a wall of snow and a street with 2ft plus of unplowed snow. With it being late at night and considering the fact that no cars would be coming from any of these streets I dont think it was such a bad idea to roll through.

ooo.. sorry.. I gotta toss in my two cents...

2 feet of unplowed snow?? I'll drive right through that "wall" (heck, I've "plowed" through 3+ feet of snow before..) with my mustang... its all about the snow tires, and some good speed. (and sometimes "drifting" through it as well.. heh) If I had a green light and a 2-3 foot wall of snow like that in front of me, I wouldn't be even thinking of stopping... or slowing down.

2 feet in my area is quite common, and I've only been stopped by one snowbank in the past 3 years with my mustang. That one was taller than the car. (I used a shovel to make a dent than hammered through it as well)

[theroofable]

ooo.. sorry.. I gotta toss in my two cents...

2 feet of unplowed snow?? I'll drive right through that "wall" (heck, I've "plowed" through 3+ feet of snow before..) with my mustang... its all about the snow tires, and some good speed. (and sometimes "drifting" through it as well.. heh) If I had a green light and a 2-3 foot wall of snow like that in front of me, I wouldn't be even thinking of stopping... or slowing down.

2 feet in my area is quite common, and I've only been stopped by one snowbank in the past 3 years with my mustang. That one was taller than the car. (I used a shovel to make a dent than hammered through it as well)

Ok you do that and run into the ambulance. Have fun with the ticket for driving during a state of emergency. I never said you couldnt drive through it, but you would have some explaining to do. Not saying I would have driven the same way as him either, but thats another story.

[unlisted]

Ok you do that and run into the ambulance. Have fun with the ticket for driving during a state of emergency. I never said you couldnt drive through it, but you would have some explaining to do. Not saying I would have driven the same way as him either, but thats another story.

Sorry last time I checked ANY emergency vehicle can ONLY proceed if the way is clear- having some "snowbanks" and a SOLID RED light for the EV (seeing as the vehicle in question is not a ambulance)does not give that right, state of emergency or not.

Its one thing to blow through a red light with lights and sirens, its another w/o even using a siren, or making sure the way is clear- snowbanks or not.

All the explaining I would have to do is this- I had a green light, the emergency vehicle (pov, etc) NEVER even stopped to make sure cross traffic was stopped.


Now, with all this said, if I was about to bust through a snowbank on a green light and saw a vehicle with warning lights approaching an intersection, I would stop. Legally, they would have to ask well, until it was safe to proceed. (ie: make sure all cross traffic has come to a complete stop)

[bwoodruff]

Livingston County Sheriff and NYSP respond to a possible GSW:

[vonirkinshtine]

attention watchers...


mute the audio after 3 minutes unless you want to hear a diesel engine running for 6 minutes.


are you responding with no lights?


all i heard was a pager call and what was the nature of the call, camera in a bag?

Yeah yeah, probably could have killed the video once I got there. Nothing worth listening to a Spartan idle for 3 minutes, lol.

Nah, I had my lights on. The call was a report of a structure fire.

[nightwolf]

Yeah yeah, probably could have killed the video once I got there. Nothing worth listening to a Spartan idle for 3 minutes, lol.

Nah, I had my lights on. The call was a report of a structure fire.

you have red lights right? pretty sure you went through a red light, are you technically allowed to without a siren?

[vonirkinshtine]

you have red lights right? pretty sure you went through a red light, are you technically allowed to without a siren?

Yes, I have "red lights" in my truck. And yes, I did go through a stop light around 2:27 in the video. No, we're not permitted to do that and, in fact, it's a bad habit that many people have...especially when following behind an apparatus. It wasn't my brightest moment when I realized where the engine was going. Yes, I messed up on that one.

[Luismariadarlene]

here is my video enjoy

[Fluffy126577]

Yes, I have "red lights" in my truck. And yes, I did go through a stop light around 2:27 in the video. No, we're not permitted to do that and, in fact, it's a bad habit that many people have...especially when following behind an apparatus. It wasn't my brightest moment when I realized where the engine was going. Yes, I messed up on that one.

Well I commend you on "fessing up" when you were approached about it. It shows responsibility. Instead of going off on "it's common around here blah blah blah.." Good job. The only thing I will say is PLEASE be more careful!! I would hate to hear of anything bad happening to anyone here due to a not so bright moment.

Is NC a courtesy light state?

[rwo978]

Yes, I have "red lights" in my truck. And yes, I did go through a stop light around 2:27 in the video. No, we're not permitted to do that and, in fact, it's a bad habit that many people have...especially when following behind an apparatus. It wasn't my brightest moment when I realized where the engine was going. Yes, I messed up on that one.

what's up with the Camero between you and the engine?

[ike]

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[vonirkinshtine]

Well I commend you on "fessing up" when you were approached about it. It shows responsibility. Instead of going off on "it's common around here blah blah blah.." Good job. The only thing I will say is PLEASE be more careful!! I would hate to hear of anything bad happening to anyone here due to a not so bright moment.

Is NC a courtesy light state?

I know what happens when people get defensive around here, lol. I've learned all too well (here and in the "real world") that it's WAY easier to just fess up. The whoopin' isn't nearly as bad then if you try and hide it or cover it up.

Yes, NC is a courtesy light state (chiefs can run sirens).

what's up with the Camero between you and the engine?

The Camero was another one of our members.