Lenexa, KS PD: 3 siren speakers, always

[bmd224]

I've always thought it was interesting, & pretty cool, how Lenexa, KS Police Dept has always had three siren speakers on their patrol cars.

While I'd think it better if they turned the two side speakers 15*-20* degrees to their respective sides for better intersection warning (since every street in town is at a 90* angle due to modern urban street planning), I like the abundance of siren warning (even if studies say it's not that effective in today's vehicles).

If I sold B&M Sirens or Timberwolf sirens I would be making a sales pitch ASAP to their department brass, such as, "You may currently have three electronic siren speakers on your patrol car bumpers, BUT...you don't have the AMAZING B&M mechanical siren. (Mic drop)".
Their reply: "oooh, aahhh. (Asst. Chief whispers into Chief's ear) We NEED three of those for the bottom side of push bar, to complement the three sirens atop the push bar."

 

[dcb]

What siren/sirens do they run? Do they use a Rumbler/Howler?

 

[bmd224]

I'm not sure. The speakers & lighting is FS, so I'm simply guessing the siren(s) are too.

 

[Wailer]

They look like Federal BP100 speakers.

 

[dcb]

I just wondered how they power three speakers, with 3 sirens? Or 1 100W and 200W?

 

[lenny77]

Seems like the best way to add another 150 lbs to the push bar, plus no p.i.t maneuvers or playing tag with the boys it would be to expensive .

 

[pdk9]

Honestly, I don't think it makes any difference having the 3rd speaker. I'm a career FF/Medic at a station that runs ~15+ calls/day, and we always come across ppl on every single call that don't yield, despite us having a Q2B, 200W of electronic siren, & horns blasting (On a 50 ton truck with 2 dozen Whelen lightheads and a fully-populated freedom).
People either don't care enough to move over (til they're the one waiting for us), they're 90 YO and cant see/hear for shit, or they are so wrapped up tweeting while driving and blasting music, so the extra 100 W isn't gonna make them yield anymore IMO, although i def wouldn't mind having the extra 100 W

 

[Grant 911 Custom]

Here is the build we recently completed for the Lenexa, KS Police Department!
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-Grant

 

[Wailer]

we always come across ppl on every single call that don't yield, despite us having a Q2B

Just confirms my argument that modern fire engines don't need mechanical sirens.

 

[bmd224]

Here is the build we recently completed for the Lenexa, KS Police Department!
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-Grant

That's so different than what I've ever seen from a Lenexa PD car. I worked at Olathe PD for 8 ywars & Lenexa always was a Federal Signal department with the 3 sirens. Also, Lenexa was the first in the KC area to use the Charger when Dodge reintroduced them around 2006/07. Is Lenexa back exclusively with Ford now?
Very clean install, but I'm not a fan of the fast flash disco patterns in mode 3 of the slide switch. Also, why did LPD not use the bumper mounted Whelen mini-Pioneers as wig-wag flashers via the P-flash?

 

[bmd224]

Just confirms my argument that modern fire engines don't need mechanical sirens.

http://www.fireapparatusmagazine.co...cience-of-moving-vehicles-out-of-the-way.html

 

[Grant 911 Custom]

BMD224,
I could not tell you if they are exclusive to Ford. This is just the last vehicle they brought us to complete. I am sorry you did not find our slide switch three to be as cool ! As for the Micro-Pioneers, they do flash with a p-flasher on slide switch three!
-Grant

 

[pdk9]

Just confirms my argument that modern fire engines don't need mechanical sirens.

You just took my post completely out of context by trimming it to suit your needs. There are pros and cons to everything. You can hear a mechanical siren from greater distances than an electronic siren IMO, and I def think they have a place on Fire apparatus for practical reasons (not just the "tradition" reason). Just because some ppl won't yield no matter what sirens you have (even if an air raid siren was 2 ft behind their ears) that doesn't mean that fire apparatus shouldn't have Q2B's.
As someone who doesn't drive fire apparatus, you can Monday night quarterback all you want, but many of us on the board that do can attest (from personal experience) that mechanical sirens do in fact have a place on our rigs

 

[Wailer]

As someone who doesn't drive fire apparatus, you can Monday night quarterback all you want, but many of us on the board that do can attest (from personal experience) that mechanical sirens do in fact have a place on our rigs

But if I did, and the truck had an electronic and a mechanical, you don't even have to guess which siren I would use.

 

[cmb56]

But if I did, and the truck had an electronic and a mechanical, you don't even have to guess which siren I would use.

My opinion about the use of electro mechanical vs. electronic siren is that of the sirens I have in my collection the B&M's overpower any of my electronic sirens.
With overpower I mean that they are louder and you "barely" hear the electronic ones.
My favorite sirens are the B&M S8B and SC8B.
Among my electronic sirens are the Federal SS2000, PA300 and many others.
The electronic sirens advantage is that you have some different sounds to chose from but you will have a better penetration into a vehicle in front of you with an electro mechanical siren.

Michael

 

[Wailer]

My favorite sirens are the B&M S8B and SC8B.

The old B&M S8s are my favourite mechanical sirens.