Wilson LED conversions - multiple models and repair

wilsonbr90

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Sep 30, 2013
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Corning, New York
rwo978 said:
without going thru the whole thread again, are you able populate the amber portion of the TX DPS 400 modules? Or color change in general? The heads don't come apart the easiest, if at all for me.


Actually I can. I've done quite a few 400's. Especially the dps ones.

wilsonbr90 said:
Fresh news. Doing a few trial runs of lr-11's converted to color. Using the exact LEDs that are used by Whelen (Cree). Already did a set of blue and they look good. I can do them 2 different ways if anyone is interested.

Other new news. I am capable of populating 400 series 6 over 3. It would be some above board circuitry but it would be invisible. 500 series populations are still kind of hit and miss.


Also if anyone is interested in custom lights I may be able to put something together.


Wilson
 

rwo978

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May 21, 2010
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wilsonbr90 said:
Actually I can. I've done quite a few 400's. Especially the dps ones.

Do you have any pics of the completed ones? Just curious where the above board wires are.
 

wilsonbr90

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Sep 30, 2013
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Corning, New York
rwo978 said:
Do you have any pics of the completed ones? Just curious where the above board wires are.

No I don't. None of the circuitry I add is visible from the head unless you take it apart. The majority of it is utilized with what exists on the board.
 

rwo978

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May 21, 2010
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wilsonbr90 said:
No I don't. None of the circuitry I add is visible from the head unless you take it apart. The majority of it is utilized with what exists on the board.

That's what I thought, but just wanted clarification.
 

wilsonbr90

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wilmfire said:
I just sent you a PM.

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On a new note. I am now offering to change the wire to match the new color of the head change. Same size wire or larger with amp pin if it came in with it. +$1/head
 

PJD642

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May 20, 2010
1,543
east of Cleveland
wilsonbr90 said:
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On a new note. I am now offering to change the wire to match the new color of the head change. Same size wire or larger with amp pin if it came in with it. +$1/head

If you haven't already finished that 400 head I sent, would you please do this? That way I won't be guessing if it's red or blue :)
 

Mrlunchbox

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Jun 12, 2010
1,293
Central, MA
Alright, i've finally got a light for you to change! LoL I just bought a red/blue talon. Need the blue changed to clear. So thats 10$? Also I should just ship the whole thing I presume? Never taken a talon apart. Thanks!!
 

elite907

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May 23, 2010
1,933
Indiana, USA
Sent 4 Cuda pods & 4 911ep boards . Got them back today and omfg these things are extremely brighter than the originals.


If anyone has questioned his work,Don't hesitate. Will be sending him more in the future.:thumbup:
 

Mrbaxter

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Oct 16, 2013
111
Connecticut
I bought 2 Whelen SPECTIR8s from cvvfdjones in red/white and had them sent to Wilson for a conversion to blue. I got them from him in just under a week. I had never seen a SPEC8 in person until I purchased the lights from Jones. I was skeptical when I saw a stock version to Whelen, and I was considering canceling the order. But I'm more than glad I kept them. I cannot recommend Wilson's work enough. He turned these not so great, older style lights into functional and effective traffic movers. The top picture is before the conversion, and bottom is after. The bottom picture was taken with the sun behind me about an hour before setting.

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massbowtie

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May 24, 2010
45
mass.
Wilson,


I got the reply with your address to send my 911 modules. I wanted to make sure that the lenses/diffusers will still fit with the new leds ? I can send one along with the modules if you need to check ? Just let me know,I will be sending them out tomorrow.


Thanks again


Mike Johnson
 
Jun 26, 2010
324
Massachusetts
Here's an oddball! I have an all blue liberty. I'm in need of a combo bar... Red and blue. Can you re-led/re-wire my all blue LEDs to do red and blue so I can control them independently via my new freedom we-can I/O board that I plan on installing in the bar. Some days I need all red, others all blue. Basically four linear 12 corners and 8 linear 6 inboards.
 
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wilsonbr90

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massfirefighter said:
Here's an oddball! I have an all blue liberty. I'm in need of a combo bar... Red and blue. Can you re-led/re-wire my all blue LEDs to do red and blue so I can control them independently via my new freedom we-can I/O board that I plan on installing in the bar. Some days I need all red, others all blue. Basically four linear 12 corners and 8 linear 6 inboards.

So your interested in making 1 pod do both colors? :scratcheshead:


I can't do witchcraft here. Now I could set you up 50/50 with blue and red, but not your typical setup.


Like this for instance


BRRBRBBR


A. A


RBBRBRRB


I just redid my all blue liberty. Had the standard halogen takedowns and alleys which are useless to me. Got rid of those added 4 tir6s, 2 front and rear, lin6 ambers in the alleys and converted 4 modules, 2 front and rear to amber


Not mention the corners were that teal blue so I changed all of those too.


BBABBABB


A. A


BBABBABB


Going to need more brain thought from you.


I possibly might be able to make split modules... But I can't make a lin6 full power red and blue, it would be 50% of each head... Get what I'm saying?
 
Jun 26, 2010
324
Massachusetts
50/50 each head was my thought. It would look like an economy head when activated. It would probably mean board work for every other led to be tied together. I'd have to do some splicing off the I/O board and play with the patterns through We-Can to get it to do one color at a time.


Just a crazy thought.
 

elite907

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May 23, 2010
1,933
Indiana, USA
massfirefighter said:
50/50 each head was my thought. It would look like an economy head when activated. It would probably mean board work for every other led to be tied together. I'd have to do some splicing off the I/O board and play with the patterns through We-Can to get it to do one color at a time.
Just a crazy thought.

I don't either of you are understanding what the other is really saying. Mass you want a 50/50 bar AKA a duo bar ? And Wilson is saying he can make the bar 1/2 R & 1/2 B, But all colors will come on at the same time. So unless you had a Freedom Bar that has 2 seperate plugs on the back to activate each row of leds, Then I don't think he can do what your wanting.
 

wilsonbr90

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He already said he was going to put a freedom control in so he could only activate 1 color.


As far as 50/50 heads its a possibility. It would be far easier to do 3 diodes of each rather than interweaved because that's how its set up. I can definitely do that. Interweaved would be a pain.
 

rwo978

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May 21, 2010
5,196
ND, USA
Whelen did make interweaved LIN6s that were mainly purposed for rear arrowsticks (R/A & B/A). There have been some on eBay lately. You could get those and have the LEDs changed over to whatever colors you need.


The corners, that's a whole other ball of wax. Not really sure how you're going to accomplish that.
 

elite907

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May 23, 2010
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Indiana, USA
wilsonbr90 said:
He already said he was going to put a freedom control in so he could only activate 1 color.

As far as 50/50 heads its a possibility. It would be far easier to do 3 diodes of each rather than interweaved because that's how its set up. I can definitely do that. Interweaved would be a pain.

I understand that but if the light heads themselves are not set up with to a separate activation plug then it doesn't matter what kind of controller you use it will not active the lighthead independently . So Basically you could hit one switch to have blue and then you can have another switch to have amber .
 

wilsonbr90

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Eh. I can make these with seperate control. I thought that was implied but I guess not. So there would be 2 plugs similar to that of a 400 series. Just in a single head.


Rwo I knew these were made but I think he was trying to utilize the modules he already has.
 

PJD642

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May 20, 2010
1,543
east of Cleveland
Late, but Kudos to Wilson - he added a 3rd row of LEDs to a 700 series scene light I have, and swapped out some older blue LEDs for newer ones in a 400 head. Noticeable difference in the 400, and of course the 700 is 50% brighter!
 

rwo978

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May 21, 2010
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Jun 26, 2010
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rwo978 said:
These are heads from an InnerEdge/Innerbeam/Rear Deck Talon, mounts are different that the standard 6 tab. However, you can disassemble the heads and swap out the LED boards.

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This is the concept I'm looking for. 2 inputs per head for separate control. I'd like interleaved rather than 1/2 and 1/2. Sounds like it would be a PITA to do custom.
 

wilsonbr90

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massfirefighter said:
This is the concept I'm looking for. 2 inputs per head for separate control. I'd like interleaved rather than 1/2 and 1/2. Sounds like it would be a PITA to do custom.

Yes unless you buy the already interweaved heads. I can for sure do the 50/50 if anyone is interested. I have a spare I'll do it to and post some pictures.
 

rwo978

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May 21, 2010
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wilsonbr90 said:
Yes unless you buy the already interweaved heads. I can for sure do the 50/50 if anyone is interested. I have a spare I'll do it to and post some pictures.

That's what I was getting at... buy an existing interweave head like above and just do the color swap.


On another note, I was going to custom build a Responder LED with these heads, R/B on one LED flasher, Amber on another. Yet another project for the 'custom' list.
 

wilsonbr90

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Sep 30, 2013
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Corning, New York
rwo978 said:
That's what I was getting at... buy an existing interweave head like above and just do the color swap.

On another note, I was going to custom build a Responder LED with these heads, R/B on one LED flasher, Amber on another. Yet another project for the 'custom' list.


I agree but he said he has an all blue bar already and I assume he wants to try and use the modules he already has
 

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