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  1. NoLimitSquads

    Carbide question

    I have done 1500 builds with CanPort, although I can’t remember which cable I used though, but I think it was the K2.
  2. NoLimitSquads

    Carbide question

    I hope that something works. I never heard of anything not working until half way through 23, they can no longer pull Can signals from GM. It’s weird that nothing is supported except 2022. Its like they pulled the support after the fact.
  3. NoLimitSquads

    Carbide question

    But if all that you need is brake and park, you might be better off using hard inputs. Brake should be really easy to tap, park might be more difficult, but Id start probing wires near the shifter.
  4. NoLimitSquads

    Carbide question

    If anything is going to work, it’s going to be the CC5K9 that plugs in under the passenger seat. If you are courageous, you could just run your K2 cable to the passenger seat, and splice the wires under there without a plug.
  5. NoLimitSquads

    Who deals in Whelen these days? Looking for reasonable pricing on some equipment...

    We don’t have any used amber, so new would be our only option. Im just an installer, so I don’t really know the business side of things, like if we can sell to someone outside of our region, but this is who I work for. There is a toll free number on the website. https://nstmn.com/
  6. NoLimitSquads

    Who deals in Whelen these days? Looking for reasonable pricing on some equipment...

    What kind of things are you looking for? I work for a master distributor, so we have new, but we also have a good amount of used. Our new stuff probably isn’t going to be any cheaper than anywhere else.
  7. NoLimitSquads

    Can you run a siren amp without a speaker?

    Ive got a Cencom Sapphire running siren tones with no speaker. Im at 15 minutes straight right now with no damage. Im occasionally attaching the speaker to make sure that it is still working properly. Maybe the Cencom Gold has a different amp than the Sapphire, but I doubt it. Id run it. If you...
  8. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen Core VS Cantrol

    In theory, with Core, using 16 output expansion modules, you could have up to 1,607 outputs.
  9. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen Core VS Cantrol

    If thats all that you want to do, both with work just fine, assuming that you need positive outputs at less than 2.5amps per output. But if you plan on expanding, and doing anything more, Core would be a safer choice.
  10. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen Core VS Cantrol

    HHS4200 is still being made, and there are no plans to drop it anytime soon. Whelen still makes WeCan bars, and inner edges, etc, things that are HHS compatible, but you can no longer get expansion modules.
  11. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen Core VS Cantrol

    Cantrol can flash outputs, and run a few WeCan devices. It has some limits. Your WeCan devices will not truly sync with the other outputs on Cantrol. No DVI, no flashing control heads, and it is no longer being made. Its a good option for someone on a budget that doesn’t need unlimited...
  12. NoLimitSquads

    Can you run a siren amp without a speaker?

    I totally mis-understood your question. I thought that you wanted to test your Cencom, as a whole, not necessarily just the tones. So yea, if you are trying to run the tones for awhile, that’s probably gonna smoke the amplifier. I have used a siren speaker with resistors successfully, but Ive...
  13. NoLimitSquads

    HHS 2200 Siren Question

    Not sure, but it can all be accomplished through programming, it doesn’t need to be hardwired.
  14. NoLimitSquads

    HHS 2200 Siren Question

    You need to turn on the horn ring relay output. The hands free probably turns on the horn ring relay. You need to have something turn on the horn relay when the HF is not on.
  15. NoLimitSquads

    Can you run a siren amp without a speaker?

    It will not damage it. And yes, command does not work with Gold. They do still have the Gold software on the Whelen website though.
  16. NoLimitSquads

    HHS 2200 Siren Question

    There is no need for that, they may have had something programmed for that output to act the same as pressing the horn. But that can all be accomplished in programming if you know what you are doing. There is no need to tie an output to an input.
  17. NoLimitSquads

    Can you run a siren amp without a speaker?

    I don’t have much experience with Cencom Gold. However, I do have a lot of experience with the newer Cencoms, Sapphire and up. With all of those Cencoms, you can actually hear the internal amp if you listen to the Cencom itself. You don’t need a speaker at all.
  18. NoLimitSquads

    HHS 2200 Siren Question

    The built in relay is a 10 amp max. I believe the only reason for not using the built in relay would be if you are grabbing horn ring near the horn, and in some instances the horns draw more than 10 amps. In that case you would need a higher amperage relay. Personally, I only grab horn ring on...
  19. NoLimitSquads

    Does anyone have the pinout for the Whelen CC5K1 Canport cable?

    You have a 399k1, a Core Cable. I have a new cc5k1 on the shelf. Here is a better link to the Whelen pin-out, and here are some photos. Let me know if you need anything else. https://www.whelen.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/14A10.pdf
  20. NoLimitSquads

    Cencom Core CANport

    No, you do not need to hard wire each function. Your 399k6 cable is all that you need. That will give the core all of the vehicle signals that you need. Like stated above, its probably a priority issue. Make sure that your hatch input is a higher priority than the input that is turning on your...
  21. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen Liberty Duo WC and Whelen Liberty WC- Assistance Please!

    All the info here is solid, but one thing to add. What is the date on your WC control point? That may dictate which programming software that you need to use.
  22. NoLimitSquads

    Wanted Wanted. Cencom Sapphire Rotary label sheet

    If you cant get one, let me know what labels you need. I have stacks of incomplete labels. Id send you some if I have the ones you need.
  23. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen HHS3200 Troubleshoot

    It’s possible that you have a bad control head. I would try writing a program that uses your park kill inputs. Program the park kill input to turn on some of the outputs. If the park kill input will turn on outputs, that means that the HHS is working properly, and there is a problem with your...
  24. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen HHS3200 Troubleshoot

    Have you tried transferring a different program into it? What control head are you using?
  25. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen HHS3200 Troubleshoot

    Try plugging your controller in directly to the HHS. Sometimes those couplers go bad. This will also eliminate the possibility of a bad or pinched cat5 cable. Edit: I had to troubleshoot another installers job, it had a similar problem. Everything worked great for a couple years. Then all of a...
  26. NoLimitSquads

    Wanted Wanted. Cencom Sapphire Rotary label sheet

    Have you tried contacting Whelen? Most times they will send you a label sheet free of charge.
  27. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen HHS PA Adapter

    I did take one apart and snap some pics. You could probably rig something to work. I would rather spend the money and do it right. Beat case scenario, its a little cobbled but works. Worst case, you fry your hhs.
  28. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen HHS PA Adapter

    I work for a distributor, but we don’t have any spares on hand. So other than the usual, eBay, or FB buy and sell groups, no. You could call your closest distributor and see what they can do. They might have some laying around for cheaper. They do go bad occasionally, so someone might stock them.
  29. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen HHS PA Adapter

    Its data, not as simple as two wires. There are actually 3 wires needed for a PA mic.
  30. NoLimitSquads

    Whelen Legacy WeCan Sync Question

    WC will not sync. It might sync up for a small amount of time, but eventually it will fall out of sync. Everything on WCX network runs off of a synced internal clock. WC does not work that way. If you want true sync with your bar, the easiest way is swapping to WCX IO board. The cheapest way is...

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