ALT WAIL - NOT Y249!!!! LOL.... love or hate?

ford-dealer

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Sep 2, 2010
857
San Antonio
I have become a HUGE fan of the Cali Title XIII compliant ALT-WAIL Siren tone.... I love the LONG pitch cycle.... I have programmed it into all of the cars in our agency. We are running 295SLA6 units. Are there those that hate it?
 
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ford-dealer

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Sep 2, 2010
857
San Antonio
No.... I am talking about the Y249 WAIL
 

MtnMan

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Dec 20, 2012
1,533
Eastern PA
ford-dealer said:
No.... I am talking about the Y249 WAIL
Unless everything I've read is wrong, Y249 refers specifically to a 249 cycle/min yelp tone. Maybe you're thinking of the Whelen Modified Wail tone?
 
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ford-dealer

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Sep 2, 2010
857
San Antonio
MtnMan said:
Unless everything I've read is wrong, Y249 refers specifically to a 249 cycle/min yelp tone. Maybe you're thinking of the Whelen Wodified Wail tone?

I am obviously confused.... howerver... my 295SLA6, when you use the scan lok to program it, has 2 wail tones, and 2 yelp tones. I thought the 249 was


2 Cylces of ramp


4 Cycles At peak


9 Cycles of fall
 

Kevin K.

Member
May 23, 2010
321
Northampton County, PA, USA
I believe Whelen introduced Y-249 (Yelp 249) as an option to specify a third siren tone that's compliant with California Title 13 regulations. Remember, it's not just the tone restriction to Wail and Yelp, T13 actually specifies the technical aspects of each tone. For a time period, one could order a Whelen siren with Wail, Yelp and Y-249 in order to have a T13-compliant package, whereas previously it was restricted to Wail and Yelp only.


Alternate Wail and Alternate Yelp, which are Whelen's version of the Unitrol tones, were introduced later. I believe they too are compliant for use in California. Regarding Simulated Mechanical, I believe that is NOT compliant for use in California; but I do not have confirmation of that.
 

ford-dealer

Member
Sep 2, 2010
857
San Antonio
Here is the list of available tones. Note: The RED ones are the only Title XIII tones. I gues I need to rename this thread! I guess it is called alternate wail.... OOOOOPS! :eek:


WAIL*


YELP*



PIERCER™


Y-249*


HI/LOW


SIMULATED MECHANICAL


PULSED AIRHORN


AIRHORN HI/LOW


ALTERNATE WAIL*


ALTERNATE YELP*



WARBLE


WHOOP
 

codemaster

Member
Jun 23, 2012
167
mississippi
I like the y249


My siren is programed like this


Radio-hi pitch air horn


Man1-man


Man2-man peak and fall


Hf- wail yelp piercer


T1- alt wail (horn function) y249


T-2 piercer (airhorn)


T-3. Warble (whoop)
 

Wailer

Member
May 24, 2010
2,290
Canada
I haven't heard the wail yet, but the yelp in the YouTube video makes a 'yow yow yow' kind of sound.
 

Ultimate D

Member
Feb 25, 2011
570
Central Arkansas
ford-dealer said:
Here is the list of available tones. Note: The RED ones are the only Title XIII tones. I gues I need to rename this thread! I guess it is called alternate wail.... OOOOOPS! :eek:

WAIL*


YELP*



PIERCER™


Y-249*


HI/LOW


SIMULATED MECHANICAL


PULSED AIRHORN


AIRHORN HI/LOW


ALTERNATE WAIL*


ALTERNATE YELP*



WARBLE


WHOOP


I am familiar with those, I have them set up in my 295SL100. I have regular wail on T1, and regular yelp on T2. When I press the manual button, while T1 is activated, it changes to alternate wail, same for T2, changes it to alternate yelp. To me, and I know some will agree with me on this, it sounds very much similar to Unitrol TouchMaster/TouchMaster Delta wail and yelp tones.
 

Solvarex

Member
Jun 2, 2010
561
Canada
Not a fan. The peak is too high and the whole tone sounds very synthetic. A Unitrol tone it ain't.


I still think Carson sirens have the best sounding wail out of any modern manufacturer.
 

bfd740

Member
Jul 4, 2010
285
Babylon, NY
I programmed it in on 2 of my chiefs' cars that have it as an option as well as ramp-down manual.


Man 1: ramp down


Man 2: mechanical


T1: Alt. Wail/Warble override


T2: Alt Yelp/Hilo override


T3: Piercer/Mechanical override
 

Rofocowboy84

Member
May 20, 2010
1,161
Centre County, PA
I figured that's what you were talking about, but I wasn't sure. I don't hate it, it does a decent job of sounding like a Unitrol, but if I was going to do that, I'll just run a Unitrol, lol. Now, a Whelen SLS and Unitrol dual setup? OMG...
 

ford-dealer

Member
Sep 2, 2010
857
San Antonio
Rofocowboy84 said:
I figured that's what you were talking about, but I wasn't sure. I don't hate it, it does a decent job of sounding like a Unitrol, but if I was going to do that, I'll just run a Unitrol, lol. Now, a Whelen SLS and Unitrol dual setup? OMG...


It is the best I can do! LOL. I can't replace all of the sirens in all our cars! :hopeless:
 

Black Hoe

Member
May 21, 2010
427
Long Island, NY
ford-dealer said:
I have become a HUGE fan of the Cali Title XIII compliant ALT-WAIL Siren tone.... I love the LONG pitch cycle.... I have programmed it into all of the cars in our agency. We are running 295SLA6 units. Are there those that hate it?

I am not a huge fan of the alternate wail or yelp. It sounds like a cheap copy of the rich sound of a Unitrol siren.
 

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