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JohnMarcson

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These are always split flash fail... a mess of pink unless synched on the ambulance flasher.
 
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Sparky_911

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Eh...I agree with the pink blur comment made a few posts back....kind of reminiscent of the 80s cube rigs built on van and truck chassis though.
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JohnMarcson

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Eh...I agree with the pink blur comment made a few posts back....kind of reminiscent of the 80s cube rigs built on van and truck chassis though.

This has been a thing in the ambulance market in Europe for years and it starts to catch on here then goes away.


Collins used to put Grote sealed beam rotators and Weldon sealed beam flashers in there and it looked bad. Then Crestline coach did the same with XL5000 rotators behind fluted 9x7 lenses. When Horton first made vans they had a rear "plexi" option to cover the rear flashers. It shrunk the flashers into much smaller lights but it was under a cool futuristic clear cover.

Of course you don't need a fancy plastic cover to add "all the surface mount LEDs" to the front of an ambulance.
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Wailer

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It looks like a Demers ambo. Demers is a Canadian company based in Quebec. They have been building ambos with streamlined light enclosures for years.
 

JohnMarcson

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It looks like a Demers ambo. Demers is a Canadian company based in Quebec. They have been building ambos with streamlined light enclosures for years.
Yeah this is most likely one of those. The practice is also be getting popular with United States builders now that Demers and Braun have teamed up. Whelen makes products for the transit van and sprinters which have replaced most e-series type II chassis. I've also seen some of the ambulances built by the REV group show up with similar light arrays.

If you're going to track this specific practice of a bunch of existing lights underneath a clear shell to a North American company, I would agree that demers is the company. If you want to try to pinpoint the practice, I would guess that Asia or Europe is going to be your ground zero for this practice. I know some Japanese ambulances had gigantic bubbles of light clusters and some of the Mercedes car based and van-based ambulances in Germany had similar pretty early on. I don't know if you compare that to Canadian trucks which will come first. Maybe it's pretty close. As far as North America, Canadian ambulances have certainly been using surface mount lights atypically in a wider market than the previous American niches.
 

bpollard

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American LaFrance did something vaguely similar there towards the end, creating custom molded light assemblies to blend in with the rooflines. I never cared for it cosmetically, can't speak to how well it worked. I can't imagine that it helped fuel efficiency on either Fire apparatus nor ambulance enough to make any difference at all.

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JohnMarcson

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American LaFrance did something vaguely similar there towards the end, creating custom molded light assemblies to blend in with the rooflines. I never cared for it cosmetically, can't speak to how well it worked. I can't imagine that it helped fuel efficiency on either Fire apparatus nor ambulance enough to make any difference at all.

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These were not as good as the sum of the components due to lack of sych, dome hazing and overall setups. I saw one with all 600 series LEDs synched and it was ok, but the stock setups suffered from the dome style.

 
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