Yep, I need to learn about all this programmable stuff. I have an Edge 9000 with 2 layer front and rear lights. but I had to make it a "dumb" bar because the control for the alley and take down lights were not working. I also just got an Edge with the messenger which seems cool but still need a control head for it.Welcome to eLB! Lots of fans of the old school bars here, but plenty of knowledge on new ones, too.