Lancaster TX Officer shot

HILO

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by MONIKA DIAZ


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Posted on June 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM


Updated today at 8:48 PM


LANCASTER — A Lancaster police officer and two civilians were wounded in a shooting in the 900 block of River Bend Drive Sunday evening.


Lancaster Police Chief Keith Humphrey said the officer was answering a domestic disturbance call around 6 p.m. when there was an exchange of gunfire.


"I just heard lots of quick shots — you know, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you know — that's all I heard," said River Bend apartments resident Pat Miles. "I jumped down on the floor."


A police officer was taken to a hospital for treatment. Two civilians were also wounded, Chief Humphrey said.


Tiffany James said she witnessed the shooting.


"When I walked over here, I seen the lady, um, the people in the car dead, and I heard the officer say,'Ooh, I shot the wrong person,' and he busted out crying," James said. "When he busted out crying, another officer grabbed him and hugged him."


Dozens of officers from Lancaster, Red Oak and DeSoto were at the scene. Investigators from the Dallas County Sheriff's department were collecting evidence and taking notes.


The county medical examiner was at the scene.


The entrance to the River Bend apartments was blocked by a Dodge sedan now covered with a blue tarp and surrounded by crime scene tape. A person in that car was among the wounded.


There were also reports of a second vehicle located near the apartment's pool area which is also being investigated as a crime scene.


"I'll keep praying for both of them — the suspect's family and the officer's family," Miles said.


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Officer did not make it. He did take out the suspect. A 3rd is also dead. No details yet, this involved 2 cars, both shot up, seperate scene's in the apartment complex, and another county Sheriff's Department on scene as well as Dallas County. It might have been a rolling domestic. There was a baby in one of the car's not hurt. There is also rumor that the suspect is the son of a high ranking DPD Officer.
 
May 21, 2010
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El Paso,TX
From what a officer said on the TV it was the son of a DPD Official with the last name brown. Ellis County SO,Dallas County SO, Desoto PD,Red Oak PD, Ovilla Fd rehab, and Desoto FD command center is on scene M/A. It is not a confirmed domestic yet the original call was a shots fired call.
 

HILO

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Still do not understand why Ellis County SO is involved, they are pretty far away, and Dallas SO is doing the investigation.


DPD's new Police Chief is David Brown. DPD press confrence at 11:15pm, which is not a good thing.
 
May 21, 2010
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El Paso,TX
Ellis County SO sent 4 units right after the incident happened and i do not know if there still on scene for all i know they could be covering the city for Lancaster PD officers.
 

HILO

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The black car that is shot up is registered to Chief Brown and his son. The car is registered to the address of the apartment complex. A few years ago, Brown Jr. was busted dealing drugs. There was a second car found around the corner in the complex, with a baby in the car seat, and the driver dead. Investigaors are also looking at a red Expidition, which registration shows Brown Jr. to own. I really hope Brown Jr. did not shoot the officer, but someone in a car owned by the Dallas Police Chief killed a Police Officer.
 

HILO

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Unconfirmed reports from the scene at this time are reporting that Brown went to apartment of ex-girlfriend and shot new boyfriend. Brown was leaving when officer arrived. Brown opened fire on officer with AK-47. Officer took cover behind his car and a round pierced the light bar striking him in the head.


As in any investigation, this is still fluid.
 

CenTexPSE

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Bad deal.....


This could happen to any LEO, anytime, anywhere. I know us firefighters give you guys a hard time, joking and such, but when it comes down to it, i respect you guys for what you do, and thank you.


Stay safe out there guys
 

HILO

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The Lancaster Officer left behind 2 children. His brother is a Dallas County SO.


One news agency is now reporting that the 23 year old is the suspect, not DPD Chief Brown's son.
 

chono

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HILO said:
Still do not understand why Ellis County SO is involved, they are pretty far away, and Dallas SO is doing the investigation.
DPD's new Police Chief is David Brown. DPD press confrence at 11:15pm, which is not a good thing.

I think its great that they care enough to send units even though they are far away. Any officer that got shot Im sure would love seeing as many units from far places responding to his aid
 

HILO

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Dont get me wrong, its great that they came to help. DPD offered some officers as well (initially that is). It struck me as odd becasue Lancaster is in Dallas County, not Ellis, and Dallas County SO was there to handle the investigation.
 

HILO

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Dallas Channel 11 news is flopping around on this. This morning they said it was the 23 year old who was the shooter. Now they are putting out that is was Brown Jr. who opened fire on the Police.


It really sucks.
 

HILO

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Posted on June 21, 2010 at 12:26 PM


Updated today at 12:41 PM


DALLAS - Authorities say they now believe the son of Dallas police Chief David Brown Sr. was the shooter in the killing of an officer and one other person at a Lancaster apartment complex Sunday evening. The son, David O'Neal Brown Jr., was also killed in the Sunday incident.


Sources said they believe Brown Jr. killed 22-year-old Jerry McMillan before fatally shooting 37-year-old Officer Craig Shaw, who was answering a disturbance call in the 900 block of River Bend Drive in Lancaster.


Brown Jr. was allegedly involved in some type of domestic disturbance and was spotted armed with a gun and allegedly shooting randomly. McMillan is said to have likely been an innocent bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time.


When officers arrived, there was an exchange of gunfire. At this time, authorities said they are still working to determine who fired first.


The Lancaster Police Department has not officially released a report on what happened.


While Chief Brown Sr. has been unavailable for comments, Dallas police gave a brief statement, saying Brown Sr. is saddened by the death of the Lancaster officer and his son.


Shaw was a father of two and a five-year veteran of the force. Shaw's death is the first for the Lancaster Police Department. Before working for the department, Shaw worked with the Dallas City Marshal's Office.


A trust fund has been set up for the Shaw family at Chase Bank. Donations can be made under the Craig Shaw Trust Fund at any branch.


More details in the shooting are expected to be released at a 3 p.m. conference of the Lancaster Police Department and the Dallas County Sheriff's Office.


E-mail: rlopez@wfaa.com
 
May 21, 2010
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El Paso,TX
As of the latest news i have heard Chief Browns son went on a random shooting rampage and shot McMillan in a car with family and McMillan did not know Brown Jr. When the Lancaster officer arrived he was met with gun fire from Brown Jr who had a AK-47. Brown Jr does have a arrest from back in 2003 for suspicion of selling marijuana. Officer Shaw Leaves behind a wife and 2 kids aged 13 and 8.
 

HILO

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Now the press is reporting that Lancaster PD responded to the same apt. complex shortly before, and made contact with Brown Jr. on a domestic or general disturbance. No arrest obviously. Soon after that, Brown Jr. went fruit loops started running around the complex wearing only boxers with a hand gun, and shot McMillan unprovoked. Brown Jr. then got into his Dodge Stratus, although there is talk that he retrived the AK from his Expidition. Having just left is the reason Shaw and the other officer were so quick to arrive to the shots fired call. They knew it was Brown Jr. right away. They knew he was the son of the DPD Chief. We can only hope that they did not give him special treatment at the frist call becasue of who's son he was.
 

CenTexPSE

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They also said that his dash cam caught everything, including the officer at the time of his death. That had to be a tough video to watch....
 

HILO

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Shaw had one of the few Lancaster cars equipped with front and rear cams.
 

HILO

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I honestly cannot belive I am about to type this.


Today, the Dallas Police Department gave a Police Escort, a motor cycle assisted escort, for a COP KILLER. The assistant Chief over traffic was not happy sitting in traffic in the funeral procession, a private funeral, for the son of the DAllas Police Chief, who was taken down after killing 2 poeple of which one was a Police Officer. Chief Bernal got on his radion and ordered a motor squad (who were pulled from escorting the slain officer Shaw) to escort the procession half way across Dallas becasue the public were cutting inbetween the procession and th private motor escort guy could not keep up.


It is a sick, sad feeliong to know that a Dallas Police Assistant Chief ordered a Police escort for the funeral procession of a COP KILLER.
 

K9Vic

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HILO said:
I honestly cannot belive I am about to type this.

Today, the Dallas Police Department gave a Police Escort, a motor cycle assisted escort, for a COP KILLER. The assistant Chief over traffic was not happy sitting in traffic in the funeral procession, a private funeral, for the son of the DAllas Police Chief, who was taken down after killing 2 poeple of which one was a Police Officer. Chief Bernal got on his radion and ordered a motor squad (who were pulled from escorting the slain officer Shaw) to escort the procession half way across Dallas becasue the public were cutting inbetween the procession and th private motor escort guy could not keep up.


It is a sick, sad feeliong to know that a Dallas Police Assistant Chief ordered a Police escort for the funeral procession of a COP KILLER.

Just saw this on the local news, that is outrageous. That murder did not even diverse a private escort company, should have been no escort at all as it may have confused people that the police were doing it. I hope that Chief Bernal is fired for his stupidity in calling in the real police to escort a cop killer, does not matter who his father was, he was still a cop killer.
 

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http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/06/decision-to-use-on-duty-office.html


A cop-killer who is the son of the Dallas police chief continued to stir deep emotions Friday as he headed to his grave.


An apparent last-minute decision by a deputy police chief to provide assistance during part of David Brown Jr.'s funeral procession angered some police associations. The city manager quickly issued a written statement distancing herself and Chief David Brown from the decision.


"This was not a planned event nor a full honor escort," according to the statement issued late Friday afternoon evening by Dallas City Manager Mary Suhm. "The action will be fully investigated and may lead to disciplinary action."


Officers said the assistance included 10 to 12 motorcycles and at least one squad car.


David Brown Jr., who killed Lancaster police Officer Craig Shaw and an innocent bystander June 20 before being shot by other officers, was buried in Lincoln Memorial Cemetery in Dallas.


Deputy Chief Julian Bernal, who oversees the traffic unit, said that as the funeral procession was headed to the cemetery, the private motorcycle escort was having trouble keeping up.


He said other motorists were zipping past the slow-moving line of cars and weaving in and out of the procession to try to exit Central Expressway. He also said an accident at Walnut Hill Lane added to the problems.


Bernal, who was in the funeral procession, said he then ordered on-duty assistance to help control traffic.


"It was dangerous, and it was a matter of public safety," Bernal said.


He said officers, mostly on motorcycles, met up with the procession on Central Expressway at Mockingbird Lane and traveled with the procession the rest of the way to the cemetery.


The officers shut down exits as the processions moved along C.F. Hawn Freeway.


He said he did not tell the officers they were responding to help with the funeral procession for Brown.


Bernal's decision set off a firestorm within the Dallas Police Department, with police associations representing rank-and-file officers condemning the decision.


"It was bad judgment," said Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association. "It's repulsive. It embarrasses the entire Dallas Police Department."


White said escorts are rarely, if ever, provided for private funerals. He called upon Bernal to resign.


Bernal met with police associations and the widow of a slain Dallas police officer Friday evening to explain his actions, but officers remained angry.


Earlier, Mike Walton, president of the Dallas Fraternal Order of Police, said, "I apologize to the Shaw family for dishonoring their husband's memory and taking the full attention away from them by us escorting that procession.


"Chief Bernal made a serious judgment error by allowing that to happen because we as police officers understand the significance of a fallen officer."


Suhm's statement Friday evening said the decision to ask for assistance for the procession was made without her knowledge or approval "and contrary to [her] specific instructions."


"This action was also conducted without Chief David Brown's knowledge," Suhm stated.


Bernal said he knew his decision would be controversial.


"I want to take full responsibility. I made the decision to do it, and this was absolutely not planned," Bernal said. "I did it out of respect for my chief and for a family who had lost somebody."


As he left the police association's headquarters Friday evening, Bernal said he had no regrets about the decision he made. Regarding Suhm's statement, he said, "I welcome an investigation."


Asked whether he would resign, "Absolutely not. I have no reason to."


A cop-killer who is the son of the Dallas police chief continued to stir deep emotions Friday as he headed to his grave.


An apparent last-minute decision by a deputy police chief to provide assistance during part of David Brown Jr.'s funeral procession angered some police associations. The city manager quickly issued a written statement distancing herself and Chief David Brown from the decision.


"This was not a planned event nor a full honor escort," according to the statement issued late Friday afternoon evening by Dallas City Manager Mary Suhm. "The action will be fully investigated and may lead to disciplinary action."


Officers said the assistance included 10 to 12 motorcycles and at least one squad car.


David Brown Jr., who killed Lancaster police Officer Craig Shaw and an innocent bystander June 20 before being shot by other officers, was buried in Lincoln Memorial Cemetery in Dallas.


Deputy Chief Julian Bernal, who oversees the traffic unit, said that as the funeral procession was headed to the cemetery, the private motorcycle escort was having trouble keeping up


He said other motorists were zipping past the slow-moving line of cars and weaving in and out of the procession to try to exit Central Expressway. He also said an accident at Walnut Hill Lane added to the problems.


Bernal, who was in the funeral procession, said he then ordered on-duty assistance to help control traffic.


"It was dangerous, and it was a matter of public safety," Bernal said.


He said officers, mostly on motorcycles, met up with the procession on Central Expressway at Mockingbird Lane and traveled with the procession the rest of the way to the cemetery.


The officers shut down exits as the processions moved along C.F. Hawn Freeway.


He said he did not tell the officers they were responding to help with the funeral procession for Brown.


Bernal's decision set off a firestorm within the Dallas Police Department, with police associations representing rank-and-file officers condemning the decision.


"It was bad judgment," said Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association. "It's repulsive. It embarrasses the entire Dallas Police Department."


White said escorts are rarely, if ever, provided for private funerals. He called upon Bernal to resign.


Bernal met with police associations and the widow of a slain Dallas police officer Friday evening to explain his actions, but officers remained angry.


Earlier, Mike Walton, president of the Dallas Fraternal Order of Police, said, "I apologize to the Shaw family for dishonoring their husband's memory and taking the full attention away from them by us escorting that procession.


"Chief Bernal made a serious judgment error by allowing that to happen because we as police officers understand the significance of a fallen officer."


Suhm's statement Friday evening said the decision to ask for assistance for the procession was made without her knowledge or approval "and contrary to [her] specific instructions."


"This action was also conducted without Chief David Brown's knowledge," Suhm stated.


Bernal said he knew his decision would be controversial.


"I want to take full responsibility. I made the decision to do it, and this was absolutely not planned," Bernal said. "I did it out of respect for my chief and for a family who had lost somebody."


As he left the police association's headquarters Friday evening, Bernal said he had no regrets about the decision he made. Regarding Suhm's statement, he said, "I welcome an investigation."


Asked whether he would resign, "Absolutely not. I have no reason to."
 

HILO

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Beranl needs to be demoted back to Lt. put on Ad. Leave and have an IAD investigation opened on him. And command staff or DPD officer who used their city issued vehicle to drive to the COP KILLER's funeral needs to be punished. Each and every Dallas Police with a star on his collar should have disregarded the escort right away. The city manager, who was in the procession, should have been on her phone right away. They all allowed this to happen. Shame on each and every one of them.


Yesterday, a very well respected and liked retired DPD was buried, and no Chief, Lt. was there. It was said there was not even a Sgt. Instead all the brass were at a COP KILLER's funeral.


This act has brought shame on this department like no other act in the history of the Dallas Police.
 

Stendec

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If it's the norm for brass to go to retiree's funerals, then someone should have been there.


But funerals are for the living, not the dead. Showing support for the Chef, who has to be so fucked up over this, no matter what kind of guy he is, is something else.


And we can't pick or choose who we give escorts to - if traffic and safety require it, it's on. Look at all the horsepower tied up handling traffic during the Michael jackson freakshow. We can't let emotions cloud our duty.
 

HILO

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Sorry Stendec, but that is bull sh*t. There is no reason at all to provide an funeral escort for a COP KILLER. And, the father of the COP KILLER, DPD Chief Brown said he did not want a uniformed Police presence, nor any type of escort. On top of that, the city manager issued a directive that no one show up in uniform, and that no Police escort be given, nor should there be a marked or unifromed presnece for the COP KILLER's funeral. Oh, and it is against city policy to provide an escort for a private funeral. And against city police for a private escort service to run an escort on a freeway. A deputy Chief acted on his own, and he should be demoted at the least.


Stendec, you are the very first person (aside from Chief Bernal) I have heard, to justify this shamefull act in the intrest of public saftey. At least a dozen funeral processions run through Dallas a week, stopping traffic and casuing back ups, and no Police escort is provided. And dont forget, the COP KILLER is the son of the Chief of the same deaprtment that provided the escort for him, and the same department that is running the escort and procession for Officer Shaw.


It is just wrong.
 

RJ*

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As I see it, a funeral can have an escort for two different reasons:


1. To ensure the smooth flow of traffic


2. As a mark of respect to the deceased


It seems we are bickering over which one it was in this case. In general, reason number one can be valid for anyone's funeral, if it's big enough to cause possible disruption to traffic. And that is part and parcel of a copper's job. It's not something you have to like, just something you have to do. The way I deal with those assignments is to think that I'm not doing it for the deceased so much, as for all those other people on the roads at the same time - so that the procession's impact on them is minimised. That is what "to serve and protect" means.


Whether it was necessary in this case - I wasn't there and don't know the details, so I can't say.
 

Stendec

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HILO said:
Sorry Stendec, but that is bull sh*t. There is no reason at all to provide an funeral escort for a COP KILLER. And, the father of the COP KILLER, DPD Chief Brown said he did not want a uniformed Police presence, nor any type of escort. On top of that, the city manager issued a directive that no one show up in uniform, and that no Police escort be given, nor should there be a marked or unifromed presnece for the COP KILLER's funeral. Oh, and it is against city policy to provide an escort for a private funeral. And against city police for a private escort service to run an escort on a freeway. A deputy Chief acted on his own, and he should be demoted at the least.

Stendec, you are the very first person (aside from Chief Bernal) I have heard, to justify this shamefull act in the intrest of public saftey. At least a dozen funeral processions run through Dallas a week, stopping traffic and casuing back ups, and no Police escort is provided. And dont forget, the COP KILLER is the son of the Chief of the same deaprtment that provided the escort for him, and the same department that is running the escort and procession for Officer Shaw.


It is just wrong.

You didn't say that the chief was opposed to it and that the city manager had issued an order in your first post, so don't jump my shit because you didn't give the whole story. Were you there and can tell us whether the traffic needed controlling or not, or are you just pissed on general principles? What exactly do you want IAD to investigate him for? Compassion for the dad?


Wow, I guess if we never have to do anything "shameful" as part of our jobs I'll never have to stand between a line of hippies and Nazis at a demonstration and get spit on by both sides, or walk between a convicted child molester and the victim's family from the courtroom to jail so that they don't rip his lungs out.
 

HILO

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All cool Stendec, I aint jumping you. I am just not one bit ok with my friends being ordered away from escorting a murdered Police Officer to escort the funeral procession of the man who killed the Police Officer. I understand that Chief Brown is having a hard time. I understand that it is so very difficult for hom to know that his son killed a fellow Police Officer. I respect that Chief Brown sent an email out requesting that no uniform presence or Police escort be given on his behalf. I do not respect an already squirrell of a Deputy Chief deciding that he is above the law, and abusing his authority to demand that traffic cops (who are under Bernal's command as he is over traffic) come escort a private funeral, which is not allowed under city rules. Once again, we have over a dozen private funerals a week in Dallas, and not one has a Dallas Police Escort. Bernal felt he was special and felt entitled to to whatever he wanted. The IAD rip will come from his dis regard of the order from the City Manger, use of city equipment for un authorized personal use (his city issued vehicle with its red/blue lights and siren, as well as police radio), and violating city policy. Providing security transport or walk by for a AP is completly different. What hapened yesterday was exactly what it looked like, a Police escort for the funeral procession of a Cop Killer, because some 1 star chief wanted to kiss some ass and not sit in traffic like any other citizen.
 

Stendec

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Ain't no thing, these have to be tough times down there. I can't imagine what that Chief is going through, it's bad enough for any cop has a kid that is a general fuckup, but to have one murder a cop, there just couldn't be much worse.
 

dpd4703

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I'll throw in my .02 cents.


In Dallas, if a funeral is to have an escorted funeral procession they must contract with a private escort company. These private m/c escorts must be licensed and follow our ordinances in performing their courtesy escorts - they are a courtesy as there is no requirement to yield ROW in our M/V laws in regards to a funeral escort. In fact, when on an interstate they are not allowed to stop traffic but instead are to proceed with the flow of traffic - they have no authority to shut down the freeway or on ramps. As for our Department, we only provide escorts for dignitaries, police officers/firefighters or miltary funerals - we DO NOT escort private funerals. We lsot a motor officer during the 2008 election campaign and our policies on how and when escorts are performed was reviewed and restrictions placed to ensure the safety of our officers. these policies were flagrantly disregarded for this copkiller's funeral.


The funeral of the cop-killer had contracted a private escort service who provided two m/c to travel from a northern suburb (Plano) down to SE Dallas. The idiot who planned this procession should have avoided using US75 through Dallas as it is notorious for traffic delays. Instead, they should have taken the outer loop highway around the city to avoid traffic issues. The cemetary where they planted this POS's bullet riddled body is located just north of the loop's southern segment. Proper planning would have avoided any trouble whatsoever.


The Deputy Chief (Bernal) stated he ordered the police M/C officers to assist for two reasons: 1) he claimed the procession was stretched out and cars were cutting in and out of the procession to enter or exit the highway and also the escorts could not keep up so it was a public safety issue; and 2) he did it out of respect for his Chief. So lets look at his first reason - public safety - that the procession was in disarray and that the 2 m/c escort riders could not keep up. If they were stuck in traffic due to an accident like he claimed, then how could they NOT keep up if they were not moving or doing so at a slow speed. His reason is either they could not keep up or they were bogged down in traffic - can't have it both ways! To make this even easier for the simple minded people let me explain that we have at least 3 vacancies in our upper command staff that are waiting to be filled by promotions. Get the picture yet! All these pitiful excuses for cops were attending this copkiller's funeral to be seen by the Chief of Police in the hopes of looking good for advancing in the Department - plain and simple.


At the same time of this copkiller's funeral, we had the funeral of a highly respected Sr Cpl/FTO who had recently retired follwoing a disabling injury that removed him from field duty. No Chief level officers attended his funeral - the highest rank was a single LT. Shameful!


Also, the 12 police M/C officers and tail car were pulled from the escort of Officer Shaw's body from the funeral home to the church for viewing. Shameful yet again!


In the aftermath of this disgraceful showing at a copkiller's funeral, it is now coming out that two plainclothes officers were assigned as "bodyguards" for our Chief. No information on any threat or perceived threat to him has been released to support this assignment. If there was, then prudence would require that the funeral be limited to family and very close friends to reduce the threat in the interest of public safety (remember, this was their key reason for the escort). Also, command staff attended this in an on duty capacity using police vehicles and some disreagrded our City Manager's direct order not to wear the police uniform. Finally, we are also hearing about the possible misuse of undercover narcotic's veicles for carying the extended family around.


While some in the community and on this board may claim that it is a responsibility of the Dallas PD to provide an escort I would suggest you think about how many private funerals occur in our city every day that do not receive a police escort, let alone the use of 12 police motorcycle officers and a tail car (police car). Two additional officers would have sufficed to get this procession from point A to point B, but really, really folks twelve m/c and a car!!!! Put the kool-aid down and wake up. Private companies are able to handle this without police assistance and their poor planning does not constitute an emergency on our part. The dead cop killer is not in a hurry to be buried as he has no since of time at this point, I assure you that. For those on here who would equate this to a prisoner escort or some other "duty" keep in mind that this was something that private companies are employed to do - not the police - and police resources, especially in our poor economic times should not be abused for selected people. Let the private escort service handle it as they do every other day. When the public (down here in Texas at least) sees a 10 - 12 police motorcycle escort they believe it to be for a fallen hero, not a POS copkiller drug abuser who happens to be the son of the Police Chief. I do feel bad for the Chief's loss but this is an insult to the memories of fallen police/FF/miltary who have received this type of escort and can not be excused or rationalized by any right minded person.
 

K9Vic

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I agree with you 100% dpd4703, but people are still going disagree with us.


I know allot about the private funeral escort business as I was in the business for 4 years. I have never seen Dallas Police doing a private escort, the only time they have helped the company I worked for was a fallen officer and military solder. Never have I even seen a Dallas cop just help a private funeral because he/she noticed traffic was bad, they just leave the private escort be as it is their job to get the family to the cemetery. I have had accidents in a procession and we do not call the police to help, they would not bother. The private companies just have to deal with the situation and call in additional officers from their own company or other private companies. There is no excuse for Dallas to escort a cop killer, absolutely none. In fact, I do not even agree with a private company doing it as the public may confuse them for a real police agency. I know I would refuse to do it, but that is me.


As for the location of the church to the cemetery, that was poor planning by the funeral director and not talking to the family to have it closer to Dallas, there are many churches that will do this. My only guess as to why it was Plano was that the chief lives up there and if it is the one near Plano PD, they should have gone down Grenville Blvd. Anyways, no sense repeating what dpd4703 has already pointed out.
 

Station 3

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That decision by the Chief makes me sick! How dare he do something so disrespect full as that :evil:
 

cory y

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They just announced Deputy Chief Bernel's punishment.


2 whole day suspension. Slap on the wrist.


DALLAS — The Dallas police deputy chief who ordered the police escort for a cop killer is being suspended for two days.


Deputy Chief Julian Bernal ordered traffic officers to assist in the funeral procession for David Brown Jr. last June.


Brown — the son of Chief David Brown — killed a Lancaster police officer and another man before he was shot dead.


The report, released by the city of Dallas late Wednesday, said Bernal's rationale for requesting help was improper because he asked for it "out of respect for his chief."


The report said no action should be taken against officers who assisted Chief Brown and his family during their work hours.


http://m.wfaa.com/WFAA8/db_19418/conten ... 1R&src=cat
 

Stendec

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I don't know that agency's disciplinary process, but 2 days on the beach is not a "slap on the wrist," particularly at the executive level. He now has next to no chance at ever rising further in rank, and no agency is going to hire him as a Chief who had to serve an actually suspension when they have other candidates that haven't.


"Verbal Counseling" is a slap on the wrist


"Written Counseling" is a punch in the arm


"Written Reprimand" is a knee to the groin.


"Suspension" is a career killer.
 

HILO

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It is a slap on the wrist. It means nothing to Bernal, and is an attempt from the city manager to make this go away. bernal is on his way out already, word has been for over a year now that he is ready to retire after the Super Bowl. He has been the big dog on the planning for LEO's in the area for Super Bowl weekend. He also made it celar that he would leave after Super Bowl weekend if he didnt get the Chief job. That being said, we can only wait and see if he will hold true. He has said that he has a well paying private secort job waiting. Back to the slap on the wrist. Command staff is salary, and he will not be docked any pay, no turning in the take home car, badge, weapon, ect that rank and file would have to do. And, the "suspension" is not over the escort, which the city manager has agreed was done for public saftey, rather it is becasue of his response to the press saying "I did it out of respect for my Chief".


Other bits from the investigation, Chief Brown payed the city $130 for use of the city owned Hummer H2 that was sent to the airport to pick up family members, the female officer who was paid on duty to babysit chief Browns kids will have her pay taken from her vacation time, same for another officer who handled personal matters for the Chief during that time.


Now that it ha been acknowledged that on duty Dallas Police can be used for private funeral escorts, it is hoped that the private escort guys will call 911 and ask for assistance when traffic becomes an issue. If DPD turns them down, whatever policy cited can be used against the city in a hopefull law suit.


The report is here...


http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/archive ... ing-p.html
 

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