Led TCL

StEaLtH2

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Mar 3, 2011
2,159
New England
I’m quite surprised to not find a thread on this here with the search ...

Sirennet has the 6x9 unit listed on the website but not the 4x6 model.. anyone have any first hand experience? Looks impressive in output and pattern certainly mimics the original.

 

C17LVFD

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May 21, 2010
1,539
Harrisburg, PA
That’s a pretty cool idea.

Very curious to see it in application. Whelen pinwheel was a massive failure... concerned in practice this may fall into the same category.

Seth
 

LineSpotter

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Nov 6, 2013
195
AmericanSouthwest
My assumption is that each element is focused to a different x/y.

So turning each on/off is a particular sequence would sort of 'trace' a pattern out ahead of the vehicle, sort of similar to the 'chaser' lights on old retail signs & marquees, thus giving the appearance of motion.

I suspect it will look pretty neat-o from the perspective of the apparatus occupants, but for drivers ahead I don't think it will look too much different than any other flashing LED on the vehicle (aka not very effective) but Ill be curious to see.

 
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Sparky_911

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May 15, 2013
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I agree with spotter. Looks good but meh.

Those LEDs dont throw as good as the the original and would likely get drowned out by other full flashing heads on a rig. Would be neat to see mounted in a grille though.
 

LineSpotter

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Nov 6, 2013
195
AmericanSouthwest
Yup that's exactly how I figured it worked.

No offense to whomever came up with this idea, but frankly..... its lame and gimmicky.

Think about it, a driver ahead of the emergency vehicle is only going to be in one of the x/y areas covered by that focused head, thus its only going to be as effective as that one head. As I said above, it will certainly look cool to the occupants of the emergency vehicle (which is why FS has the display set up the way they do) but I do not see it being any more effective as any other flashing LED.

***RANT ON***

Frankly I do not understand why moving light-heads are not brought back, at least to supplement fixed LEDs. My assumption is that it has to do with pricing mark-up more than anything else as fixed light heads are dirt cheap to produce and use in bars. aka.... far more profit for the manufacturer.

Yes one can argue that motors and other moving parts are more prone to failure, but we managed to survive just fine for how long running moving lights. During my ~25 years of fire/rescue service I can only remember a handful of times where light motors/mechanics failed, bulbs were about the only things that failed regularly.

We are approaching the 3rd decade of the 21st century, LED's are just about bomb-proof, and there is no reason motors & mechanics cannot be vastly improved as well. I would love to see moving LED's with highly focused beams brought back to lightbars, etc. Picture a modernized MX7000 type bar using fixed LED heads, but with a pair of highly focused LEDs sweeping 90 degrees on either side, and another center mounted one running 888 style.

That would solve what I consider the LEDs biggest weakness, focused beam projection.

I use small 1500 lumen scout lights on two of my Steyr AUGs, even with a bunch of spill they still have a decently focused hot spot that pushes out several hundred yards. Something similar but more focused and optimized would make for a killer 888 or sweepers that would dominate something like this new 'TCL', And they would be small enough to fit inside a bar.

Don't get me wrong, I love profit..... but I think we can do far better.

***RANT OFF***

;)
 
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gtpts27

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Jul 1, 2017
579
Virginia
A better real world demo video from SirenNet here. Obviously not a perfect demo of real world use but looks effective to me. Whether it's more effective than just a 9x7 white led, I don't know, but it is certainly a unique pattern and it doesn't have any moving parts or halogen bulbs...
 

nerdly_dood

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Jun 15, 2010
2,312
Georgia
I'm sure it'll be fine at first but in ten years when the lens gets cloudy it's gonna be no better than a normal 9x7 with one of those dying fluorescent tube flash patterns like the pinwheel or whatever.
 
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NPS Ranger

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May 21, 2010
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Penn's Woods
For some Swedish blue light porn, check out the first clip in this vid. A plain white lightstick can be really effective and likely much cheaper than the fake TCL:
 
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