Mobile home fire that goes from bad to worse

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firemedic10584

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TX_Mark

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firemedic10584 said:
Go to the link I just posted. Video is called " Firefighters respond to blaze at hidden creek mobile home park" it wasn't on youtube
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Hmmmmm, the link works but maybe it's not showing up because of my ipad
 
minig0d

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Video title on vimeo is "Firefighters respond to blaze at Hidden Creek Mobile Home Park"... vimeo is YouTube's biggest competitor for whoever asked earlier...


this download link MAY work on an iPad: http://vimeo.com/6930420/download?t=1381089455&v=17491162& not sure...


I'm not a FF but someone needs to give that guy a refresher on breaching with the halligan... if he can't open a TRAILER door with it, how on earth would he open a solid core door?
 
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strobecrazy

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minig0d said:
Video title on vimeo is "Firefighters respond to blaze at Hidden Creek Mobile Home Park"... vimeo is YouTube's biggest competitor for whoever asked earlier...

this download link MAY work on an iPad: http://vimeo.com/6930420/download?t=1381089455&v=17491162& not sure...


I'm not a FF but someone needs to give that guy a refresher on breaching with the halligan... if he can't open a TRAILER door with it, how on earth would he open a solid core door?
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I believe he is the same one with helmet on backwards.
 
paff2

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minig0d said:
Video title on vimeo is "Firefighters respond to blaze at Hidden Creek Mobile Home Park"... vimeo is YouTube's biggest competitor for whoever asked earlier...

this download link MAY work on an iPad: http://vimeo.com/6930420/download?t=1381089455&v=17491162& not sure...


I'm not a FF but someone needs to give that guy a refresher on breaching with the halligan... if he can't open a TRAILER door with it, how on earth would he open a solid core door?
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That's why they make the 'marriage set'. Haligan and axe are a mean pair. Definitely some more training all around needed there.
 
TX_Mark

TX_Mark

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minig0d said:
Video title on vimeo is "Firefighters respond to blaze at Hidden Creek Mobile Home Park"... vimeo is YouTube's biggest competitor for whoever asked earlier...

this download link MAY work on an iPad: http://vimeo.com/6930420/download?t=1381089455&v=17491162& not sure...


I'm not a FF but someone needs to give that guy a refresher on breaching with the halligan... if he can't open a TRAILER door with it, how on earth would he open a solid core door?
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Yes it worked on the ipad... That 1st guy shouldn't have been worried about damaging the door, he was trying to knock the lock off. Shoulda just slammed it in there and pushed. Like someone else said, the axe and haligan are awesome tools.
 
minig0d

minig0d

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strobecrazy said:
I believe he is the same one with helmet on backwards.
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haha maybe he needs a "different" kind of helmet...


I obviously didn't have my hand on that particular door, but most trailer doors I've encountered are like single layer of corrugated sheet metal and you can most likely breach them just by tugging on them too hard... the halligan coulda been put straight through the door and yanked open rather than trying to pop the lock... and I'm obviously not a FF but I'd imagine that the heat from the fire would make the door even more flexible and easier to pop open *shrug* (I'm sure one of you FF guys can chime in on that... The video caption mentioned the town name FD not VFD, but I really hope it was a VFD with them that inexperienced...


What I don't get is why one of the geniuses behind him didn't grab it out of his hands and do it for him... "hey you've been prying this door for 45 seconds now, the whole trailer will be burned to the ground before you get it open... hand it over..." and why weren't they dumping water on the roof already? *shrug*
 
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TX_Mark said:
Yes it worked on the ipad... That 1st guy shouldn't have been worried about damaging the door, he was trying to knock the lock off. Shoulda just slammed it in there and pushed. Like someone else said, the axe and haligan are awesome tools.
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lol he's worried about a $100 dollar door while $100/second worth of damage is being caused by the flames...
 
TX_Mark

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minig0d said:
lol he's worried about a $100 dollar door while $100/second worth of damage is being caused by the flames...
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Exactly, although I did see some OK things.. He had the PPV (fan) out, was semi-close to the structure.. But he didn't start it yet.. I was tought next to the door running, so it could be moved into position. And I did like that they weren't running, all it takes is one trip and now you have an EMS call and a structure fire.
 
StEaLtH2

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Holy Wow Batman.... :duh:


To sum it up...."you're doing it wrong!"
 
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firemedic10584

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I really liked the random guy who came up half way thru and busted out the side window and once he introduced the oxygen into the room, well....you saw what happened :nono: this is why we don't freelance!
 
FFParker

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I seriously was waiting on the whole thing to flash when they popped the door? Then the window was popped and the PPV put in place. There is time and a place to ventilate and knowing what kind of ventilation you need and when is key. The house was a lose either way, being a 80's model double wide a small kitchen fire would have totaled it. That being said, they could have seriously injured someone with their stupidity. Risk a little save a little, Risk alot save alot.... "This boys and girls is why we have unified command.":hopeless: :hopeless: :hopeless: :eek:
 
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mdlighting said:
The only good thing I saw in that video was the extensive use of Powerarc warning lights. Lol
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And they had nice equipment. Other than that I won't armchair chief this cause I know I have had fires that went to shit and if they wound up on the internet they would be picked apart.
 
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K9Vic

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I have not been a FF since 1997 and did that for 5 years up until that date. My department was a paid on call and part time staffed that trained all the time and we never had anything like that happen at a fire. On a side note I was a freelance videographer from 1990 to 1997 working for one of the local TV stations and saw allot of fires in the rural areas where it was all volunteers. I have never seen anything like this during that time and especially not a helmet on backwards. That is just sad to see an unorganized fire fight like that. Destroy the door opening it, use a target saw or something, but you do not spend minutes trying to carefully open it. It is like when I was a tow truck driver, if the front was smashed up I would sling or chain the car. It is already damaged and likely totaled.


I did notice the EMT was trying to make it better and even put the officers helmet on him. MY questions is where there two FF with their helmets on backwards? I swear I saw that same EMT flip someones around, but later I still saw one on backwards.
 
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vc859

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firemedic10584 said:
I really liked the random guy who came up half way thru and busted out the side window and once he introduced the oxygen into the room, well....you saw what happened :nono: this is why we don't freelance!
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I think that was the Chief. Or at least the guy the EMT put the white hat on, who was shooting water into the foundation for about 5 seconds.

FFParker said:
"This boys and girls is why we have unified command."
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The unified command in this case should have been the EMT, and the deputy sheriff (who, by parking his vehicle out of the way, did more things right than that entire FD (minus the EMT) did
 
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firemedic10584 said:
I really liked the random guy who came up half way thru and busted out the side window and once he introduced the oxygen into the room, well....you saw what happened :nono: this is why we don't freelance!
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what is the formula for fire? Fuel Heat and oh yea oxygen lets bust out this window and really get things cooking.
 
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jph2

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This incident does, indeed, look like something from the Keystone Kops. It happened in 2009 and resurfaced last October, including in a blog post on firehouse.com. In response, the Chief involved emailed with the other side of the story to explain his department's actions, admit their mistakes (including the backwards helmet), and state they've addressed the issues in training. He also says loss was confined pretty much to the room of origin.
 
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