NYPD Beacon Ray Lamp placement?

[ERIC6913]

Hello,


I couldn't find any answers or exact pics on the correct lamp placement on the NYPD beacon Ray 175-H online. I know it features three 4416 red lamps and one amber fog lamp, but in what position are they on the beacon? Are two red's angled up and down? Is one red and the amber in the horizontal position? Anybody know? Thanks in advance!

 

[ny04350]

Here's a few accurate restorations...you're correct...one amber/one red flat, two reds on the angles...


Nine years of NYC Police car shows here:


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[fyr1075k]

What a beautiful sight. Thanks for sharing the pictures and right near our office!

 

[Black Hoe]

I remember the NYPD 175H to be all 4416 lamps, 2 red straight, 1 red slightly low angle and 1 amber slight up angle. GuyM should be able to confirm this.

 

[ERIC6913]

nice pics mister! thanks for the info.

 

[ny04350]

I remember the NYPD 175H to be all 4416 lamps, 2 red straight, 1 red slightly low angle and 1 amber slight up angle. GuyM should be able to confirm this.

With a fleet as large as NYPD, there are bound to be variations. I have seen clear bulbs in many old 175s in addition to the reds/ambers. Placement of the beams was probably done on a "what was available" when needed basis.

 

[50theman]

Watch Serpico the movie, at the start they respond to the hospital with him in the car, there is a real good shot of the old NYPD beacon. I'm pretty sure they used a real NYPD car for that scene.


But ny04350 is correct.

 

[lotsofbars]

The lamps were reds in the upward/downward facing lights and one red and one amber on the horizontal-beam bulbs. As said previously in this thread, this was the basic setup but the NYPD did use whatever they could on an as-needed basis.

 

[guy m.]

Hello,

I couldn't find any answers or exact pics on the correct lamp placement on the NYPD beacon Ray 175-H online. I know it features three 4416 red lamps and one amber fog lamp, but in what position are they on the beacon? Are two red's angled up and down? Is one red and the amber in the horizontal position? Anybody know? Thanks in advance!

The Tilted beams were usually the Red 4416-R and the Amber fog beam was in one of the straight positions "but"..... as the repair shop replaced the bulbs over the years I do remember seeing cars with all red or with a 4416-A, It all depended on what they had on hand at the time or if someone at the precinct decided to replace a bulb instead of going out to the repair shop.

 

[fyrboy]

How my NOS appeared upon arrival:

 

[ex416]

does anyone know what the bulb number was for the amber fog beam?

 

[Jesse J Volanti]

I’m sure someone here will know

 

[southpaw]

I'm thinking 4415A for a fluted 12 volt par 36 deep amber fog lamp.

Wattage: 35W, 35 Watt Watts
Voltage: 12.8V, 12.8 Volt Volts for 12V Systems
Glass: PAR36, PAR 36, 4.5" Diameter, Amber Lens-Foglamp
Base: Screw Terminals
Beam Spread: SAE Automotive Amber Fog
Filament: C-6, C6
Average Rated Life: 300 hours
Technology: Incandescent
Beam Spread: Horizontal 40° - 10 %
Beam Spread: Vertical 5° - 10 %
Max. Beam Candlepower (MBCP) (MAX) 7000
Maximum Overall Length (MOL) 2.75"/69.8mm
Bulb Diameter (DIA) 4.5"/114.3mm

 

[cmb56]

ex416
4415A as southpaw has told you.

The 4415A is a fog lamp with normally a horizontal spread, like a horizontal I, but the sealed beam must be mounted as in the picture of fyrboy’s lamp assembly.
You can see the specifications that southpaw have provided.

That way you will have a flash from the amber lamp together with all of the red sealed beams. A flash for the straight, a flash for the down tilted and a flash for the up tilted.

My own 175-H is configurated this way.

With a 4416A you will have the best flash for the straight red lamp and not so good flashes for the tilted ones.

Michael

 

[StEaLtH2]

I’ll beat Jarred to the punch in this one..lol
7 year bump..... to this historical beacon