Often, simple is better.....

LineSpotter

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Nov 6, 2013
195
AmericanSouthwest
At least in my opinion anyway.
Personally I think this bar not only looks better, but is actually more effective than many of the patrol UFO's I see here in the U.S.

Police escort for a 6th month old child that swallowed an open safety pin.
Policjanci eskortowali (police escort) Krotoszyn to Ostrów Poland
Start video about 2:20

Would like to see more details about the bar and a good front view while operating.
Anyone else have any simple set-ups that they like?


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LineSpotter

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AmericanSouthwest
I like to think simple is better.

Nice! :)

Im getting myself a new truck this year and had originally planned on getting a simple full size bar like yours. But lately Ive been tossing around the idea of a retro sort of setup similar to a Visibar but using LED's.

A pair of red Whelen L31's mounted to an extruded bar.
Then inboard a pair of steady red P 36 or 46 (depending which looks better)
And finally a center mounted white PowerArc

I may even fab up a pair of cans and run front and rear facing PAR-36's
I just have to make the time....Im 2x retired and still never seem to have enough time...lol
 

cmb56

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May 22, 2010
746
Norrköping, Sweden
Why not mount the PowerArc on the dash board and put a conventional revolving light in the middle of the bar instead.
That way you have a real revolving light that give you a genuine 360 deg. throw of light and long range visibility, that in my opinion you do not get from LED lights.

A red H1 55 Watt single rotator North American Signal 112HR-R or a white 112HR-C for exemple that gives about 110 fpm.

If you buy a 24 Volt version and replace the H1 bulb to a 12 Volt one you will have it flash about half the flash rate with better punch in the flashes.

Maybe a red two sealed beam North American Signal 212-R or a White 212-C if you prefer a slower rotation but with the standard 90-100 fpm.

I recently bought two red 112HR-R from Amazon for under $40.
They wrongly sent me an amber 24 Volt light that they replaced with the right red 12 Volt i had ordered and let me keep the wrong one free of charge.

Michael
 

dg0223

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Feb 20, 2011
703
USA/Texas
Sometimes more isn't better, it's just more.

I have never been a fan of cars that have multiple lighting levels, lights all over the side of the car, a lightbar, visor lights, a dashboard light, lights in the grill, lights in the headlights, and lights in the fog lights. I get a lot of people on here like those Christmas tree setups, and I also get lots of people who say things like, "Oh, well, visibility is important, that's why I need multiple levels of lighting because people look at the car at different eye levels, and they need side warning because when I come up to an intersection, blah, blah, blah." Police cars, and other emergency vehicles used to have a lot less lighting on them than they do today, and the numbers of them getting in a crash aren't considerably higher than they used to be.

That Whelen Liberty on that Chevy looks just fine.

I think the issue is some of us are so obsessed with these lights that we go overboard. Then we have the audacity to make fun of other people's setups on that "whacker" thread. There definitely is such a thing as too many lights on a vehicle.
 
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LineSpotter

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Sometimes more isn't better, it's just more.

I have never been a fan of cars that have multiple lighting levels, lights all over the side of the car, a lightbar, visor lights, a dashboard light, lights in the grill, lights in the headlights, and lights in the fog lights. I get a lot of people on here like those Christmas tree setups, and I also get lots of people who say things like, "Oh, well, visibility is important, that's why I need multiple levels of lighting because people look at the car at different eye levels, and they need side warning because when I come up to an intersection, blah, blah, blah." Police cars, and other emergency vehicles used to have a lot less lighting on them than they do today, and the numbers of them getting in a crash aren't considerably higher than they used to be.

That Whelen Liberty on that Chevy looks just fine.

I think the issue is some of us are so obsessed with these lights that we go overboard. Then we have the audacity to make fun of other people's setups on that "whacker" thread. There definitely is such a thing as too many lights on a vehicle.

Agreed on all points.

Recently I had the chance to set up the lighting on a new squad at our department.
One bar, four par-36 on the push bar (2 front, 1 each L/R), and two L31s on the rear.
All are either steady burn or synced signal alert. Nice and simple, less expensive, and highly effective. In fact the comments thus far indicate most think its more effective than anything else they've seen.

Personally I think these UFO type setups do more harm than good, especially at night. At minimum they far exceed the point of diminishing returns.

Also look at the studies done on rail grade crossing lighting as well as locomotive ditch lighting. Simple alternating red, alternating ditch lights.

 
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