MtnMan said:The obscured license plate doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
hoj1192 said:Its actually a personal or take home car of an ATF Agent they had the car on show at national night against crime last year on staten island. As for the lights theres 4 red/blue miniphantoms 2 front 2 back and a sho-me siren
CHIEFOPS said:Is that Lund siren a little compact unit that Whelen offered in the mid 80s?
hoj1192 said:Its actually a personal or take home car of an ATF Agent they had the car on show at national night against crime last year on staten island. As for the lights theres 4 red/blue miniphantoms 2 front 2 back and a sho-me siren
Alboy29 said:Dont think Miniphantoms do anything, During any time of day.. :no:
SBFD-E-9 said:What the hell did I just watch?? What an unsafe vehicle to be responding in.
efdny2003 said:It's definitely hard to tell what color or how many lights this car has other than the headlights and tail lights, but what makes it an unsafe car to respond in? What's different from this to an agency that may only use headlight and tail light flashers and a single dash light?
SBFD-E-9 said:I suppose that is just my opinion. I feel that a vehicle should be well lit if you are going to be running code. You can hardly see the colored lights on this car (could just be the camera) and I don't see ANY side warning. I wouldn't risk my life to drive that car code.
Dan
TheGatekeeper said:IMO there is "running code" and "running code".
A patrol unit responding to a 911 call is to transport itself asap to its destination. Same for paramedics ro ambulance. Each minute counts, lives could be at stake.
And then there is the need to keep moving when the traffic is not, in order to arrive at destination quick. Yet a couple minutes more or less won't make a diff, and nobody will die as a result...
We never run code in a life or death situation, but oftentimes we need to be moving no matter what. Our cars are thus "lightly" equipped (by American standards), and it's really up to who's behind the wheel to drive in a safe yet rapid fashion, taking in account the surrounding traffic and one's car available emergency equipment.
So I don't agree either that this Charger is under-equipped. It must be driven accordingly to what equipment it bears. No matter what, the driver makes the difference.
TheGatekeeper said:No matter what, the driver makes the difference.
You guys are spoiled.NYBLS said:Is the vehicle passing cars and going through intersections? Then it's running code and needs appropriate lighting for that.
pdk9 said:Unfortunately, I wish that was always the case. Yes, the driver plays a very significant role in safe response, but (no matter how observant we are while driving) we cannot always account for every dumb ass driver out there that could cause an accident. I understand that you're accustomed to less lighting in France, but in the US (especially as someone that has personally driven Code 3 in New York for 4 years), a simple beacon light on the roof or a the dash light/grill light combo without full 360 warning (which appear to be 2 of the more common variations of how unmarked units are equipped when I'm in Europe visiting family) is not sufficient when you have to deal with ultra-aggressive, idiotic, and stupid drivers from the tri-state area. An effective, solid 360 warning package is crucial in NYC, and unfortunately, I think this needs improvement.that's just a dream in my faintest imagination lol.
Jeremy0966 said:I thought this was particularity odd. No red or anything to the front seems a little weird even for a UC. But that's New York for ya. I didn't see anything wrong with the charger other then the dash light trying and failing at punching through the tint.
TheGatekeeper said:No matter what, the driver makes the difference.
TheGatekeeper said:ACU. "Run Silent, Run Deep".
foxtrot5 said:Yes indeed, but just like LEOs must train with their handcuffs, less-than-lethal options, firearms, and other equipment... they should have to train with modern warning equipment. Long gone are the days of turning on the MX7000 and forgetting about it until the call is over. (No disrespect to MX7k lovers, they're great bars!)
Anyone here wearing fish? Where's that ChevyMano guy at?
VolEms said:I think this Impala is legit NYPD. Look closely and there is an RMP responding to the same job. I think he had his SS2000 in position 2 by mistake so his grill lights were off.