Cheapest way to get DVI patterns

[Cop]

Hello there,

I'm looking for a cheap solution to get Whelen's DVI patterns in my car.

It's just for 6 IONs so I don't need a amp or seperate controller.

It would be great if there were a external flasher with DVI but just core works with it.

Do you have any ideas how to get DVI patterns in a simple way?

 

[NoLimitSquads]

Hello there,

I'm looking for a cheap solution to get Whelen's DVI patterns in my car.

It's just for 6 IONs so I don't need a amp or seperate controller.

It would be great if there were a external flasher with DVI but just core works with it.

Do you have any ideas how to get DVI patterns in a simple way?

For getting IONs to DVI, the cheapest way is Core-C. You would need the Core-C and an expansion module. There is no other cheaper flasher that Im aware of that will achieve DVI.

 

[NoLimitSquads]

If you don’t want another controller, its more expensive, but Core-R with an expansion module is the route to go.

 

[cabunty]

I use a smartlogic with the cruise at 50% and and slow single flash 100% over it. It's not the true DVI but it works for me.

 

[Cop]

Thank you! I will have a look on both

 

[cabunty]

Thank you! I will have a look on both

Whelen MIGHT even add DVI to the Smartlogic flashers in the future...if demand were there...

 

[firebuff17]

I have noticed some of their heads (M7, and some brand new micro freedoms) come with DVI built into the flashers. Maybe over time they will incorporate DVI into the internal flashers.

 

[cabunty]

I have noticed some of their heads (M7, and some brand new micro freedoms) come with DVI built into the flashers. Maybe over time they will incorporate DVI into the internal flashers.

It could be quite easily on Smartlogic flashers... I mean you could even make one with a pattern that plays for .5 second in steps from a low percentage to full and back down...

 

[TDC]

Yes, and Carbide and such, too. Timer 100ms at 20 output, 100ms at 40, 100ms at 60, 100ms at 80, 100ms at 100, 100ms at 100, ... and back to 20; 20, 40, 60...
Each cycle is 1 second long.

 

[firebuff17]

Here a couple that found with it built in from factory.

WHELEN MIRCO EDGE FREEDOM LED MCFLED21, THREE (3) LIGHTS NEW IN BOX, | eBay

270° light coverage, Built-in Flasher. Micro Freedom® Super-LED® Lighthead Assembly. Amber lights with clear lens. Micro Edge Size: 4″ (102mm) H x 10″ (254mm) W x 9-5/8″ (245mm) D. Each lighthead includes mounting hardware and 20′ of 6- conductor shielded cable.

www.ebay.com

 

[JohnMarcson]

I have noticed some of their heads (M7, and some brand new micro freedoms) come with DVI built into the flashers. Maybe over time they will incorporate DVI into the internal flashers.

I would assume it will become part of standard patterns, they are pretty excited about it. I use it in core with condition "position 3 when in park or arrow activated and/or when rear only active". I replaced a slow single flash with the same but DVI. I drove up on one of the vehicles equipped as such and it was significantly less distracting but very visible.

 

[NoLimitSquads]

The DVI built into the heads is kinda neat if you haven’t played with it. Its a secondary pattern. It uses the low power wire to change from a normal pattern to a DVI pattern. I wouldn’t expect to see it on any lighthead that isn’t already offered with low power. I use DVI on all my park patterns now. It seems to be very effective with not blinding or distracting traffic as it passes an emergency vehicle on the side of the road.

 

[cabunty]

Yes, and Carbide and such, too. Timer 100ms at 20 output, 100ms at 40, 100ms at 60, 100ms at 80, 100ms at 100, 100ms at 100, ... and back to 20; 20, 40, 60...
Each cycle is 1 second long.

This....

I was being lazy I think....but maybe 2 seconds total from low to low time...

 

[167]

So Smartlogic question:
It's dual mode? For M'7's and ION's, would you put them on steady and flash them through the Smartlogic? Will that give them variable intensity cruise capability?

Have a minimal install. Trying to decide if I wanna use a Smartlogic or go Core C with expansion module.

 

[Tango7]

Yes, and Carbide and such, too. Timer 100ms at 20 output, 100ms at 40, 100ms at 60, 100ms at 80, 100ms at 100, 100ms at 100, ... and back to 20; 20, 40, 60...
Each cycle is 1 second long.

I'll have to give that a try...

 

[NoLimitSquads]

Yes, and Carbide and such, too. Timer 100ms at 20 output, 100ms at 40, 100ms at 60, 100ms at 80, 100ms at 100, 100ms at 100, ... and back to 20; 20, 40, 60...
Each cycle is 1 second long.

I had some downtime at work, so I tried some of this out. You could definitely do this on Carbide. But looking at programming, Smart Logic only has 4 virtual inputs, so you would be extremely limited on your intensities. I also checked out a WC control point for doing it on a lightbar. The limitation with the CP is that the timer for the virtuals only goes down to 1 second, so its not very smooth.

 

[DefianceEngineCompany]

I use a smartlogic with the cruise at 50% and and slow single flash 100% over it. It's not the true DVI but it works for me.

I didn’t know you could do that, I’m glad I saw this.

 

[fp13-2]

So on this topic...

I'm at a loss here. I have a Cantrol Gen 2, trying to make the "fake" DVI patterns. I have 8 Virtual Inputs, they go 20/40/60/80/100 and back (with two groups alternating). They are all variable timers at 100ms (I've also tried 1s). The OFF state for each is set to "Next State" for the next in line. I have a ACM input Push On/Push Off which is programmed to set the first virtual to Next State. When I apply 12v to it with two brand new Ion Duos attached, one powers on at 20% the other at 100% (which is the first virtual), but they never move to the next virtual.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong...any ideas? I'm sure it's something simple...

 

[NoLimitSquads]

So on this topic...

I'm at a loss here. I have a Cantrol Gen 2, trying to make the "fake" DVI patterns. I have 8 Virtual Inputs, they go 20/40/60/80/100 and back (with two groups alternating). They are all variable timers at 100ms (I've also tried 1s). The OFF state for each is set to "Next State" for the next in line. I have a ACM input Push On/Push Off which is programmed to set the first virtual to Next State. When I apply 12v to it with two brand new Ion Duos attached, one powers on at 20% the other at 100% (which is the first virtual), but they never move to the next virtual.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong...any ideas? I'm sure it's something simple...

Are you using low power intensities or cruise?

 

[fp13-2]

Are you using low power intensities or cruise?

Low Power - and I made sure the "Power" was set on each lighthead.

 

[NoLimitSquads]

Low Power - and I made sure the "Power" was set on each lighthead.

Try using cruise intensities instead. I don’t know why, but I couldn’t get it to work on power intensities either, but it worked using cruise intensities.

 

[fp13-2]

Try using cruise intensities instead. I don’t know why, but I couldn’t get it to work on power intensities either, but it worked using cruise intensities.

Thanks! I'll give that a shot when I get home.

 

[fp13-2]

Try using cruise intensities instead. I don’t know why, but I couldn’t get it to work on power intensities either, but it worked using cruise intensities.

So - I don't have a cruise option on the low (or high) power outputs on the Cantrol...

 

[NoLimitSquads]

So - I don't have a cruise option on the low (or high) power outputs on the Cantrol...

Dang.. I wish that I knew why low power doesn’t cycle. When I was playing with this, I was using a control point and a WeCan lightbar. I never tried it with outputs.I wonder if it would work using single flash 60 instead of on, and doing the timer less than 1 second, so that it never actually flashed.

 

[NoLimitSquads]

Or, in the off state of the virtual, turn the output off as well. Idk? It might need to “reset” to change power output. Or try alternating virtuals between “on” and single flash 60.