e2kmaster said:I remember reading this here before on a LAFD Vehicle but this new video shows how horrible the flash pattern is... or is it just me ?
e2kmaster said:I remember reading this here before on a LAFD Vehicle but this new video shows how horrible the flash pattern is... or is it just me ?
stansdds said:As far as I know the California laws allow fire and ems to run only red. Law enforcement is allowed to use red and blue together or all red. No clear is allowed. All emergency vehicles must display flashing amber to the rear.
killCARB027 said:What phily said about the use of Clear and/or Amber flashing lights on Emergency Vehicles in CA is correct. It's also true that generally speaking only law enforcement vehicles can use Blue lights. However once in a great while you will find a marked Fire Dept. pickup or SUV equipped with a Red & Blue lightbar if that vehicle is driven by a firefighter who is also a certified Peace Officer (such as a Fire Dept. Arson Investigator). CalFire has around 300 law enforcement officers deployed throughout the entire state.
cdffireboy said:as for clear lights , yes all ems, fire and law enforcement can run clear. but they are supposed to be set up to where when u put the veh in park or activate the parking brake the clears shut off.. i know that's how it is on all our rigs..
killCARB027 said:What phily said about the use of Clear and/or Amber flashing lights on Emergency Vehicles in CA is correct. It's also true that generally speaking only law enforcement vehicles can use Blue lights. However once in a great while you will find a marked Fire Dept. pickup or SUV equipped with a Red & Blue lightbar if that vehicle is driven by a firefighter who is also a certified Peace Officer (such as a Fire Dept. Arson Investigator). CalFire has around 300 law enforcement officers deployed throughout the entire state.
RolnCode3 said:VC 25259 specifies max two flashing white lights above the roofline and two below (not including the headlights), but I have never seen anything about them being required to shut off when in park. Any reference?
norcalbusa said:California EMS can use amber and clear (in addition to required red). Union Pacific railroad repair trucks can/do use blue. There are plenty of bona fide LEO, Fire and EMS rigs running non Title 13 compliant schemes.
Just as I feared, California is finally slipping into anarchy. :crazy:
lafd55 said:I'm sure there are small departments that are not usually in the mainstream of discussion that do not truly follow the Cal Light Laws, probably like how some police/fire departments in New York run red AND blue.
lafd55 said:I'm sure there are small departments that are not usually in the mainstream of discussion that do not truly follow the Cal Light Laws, probably like how some police/fire departments in New York run red AND blue.
GTRider245 said:I remember reading somewhere long ago the Cali steady burn thing had to do with epileptic people. Something about having a steady burning light for them to focus on in the event of a seizure? Granted, this could be complete BS, just passing along what I had heard.
GTRider245 said:Found this with a little Googling. Could also be BS though.
"The reasoning behind the steady burning red light law in Califonia comes from the concept of a "Reference" light--that is, a light that is steady and doesn't waver, so that the vehicle can be identified and tracked constantly as it approaches. This law was encacted sometime back in the 30s or 40s. This was because in heavy traffic, especially at night, the old fashioned slow-rotating beacons or "Mars" lights flashed at a slow rate, and drivers at a distance could be distracted or confused as to which vehicle was the actual emergency vehicle between flashes. California never bothered to repeal this particualr statute, even though todays rapid flash and full-width light bars negate the need for it. "
Yonker's Police Department runs R/B to front and I know I have seen some LI FDs run R/B. It's probably a rarity but I'm sure there are also unmarked cars that run R/B to the front somewhere in NY state.chrismartin1701 said:to the rear yes. front, i dont think so. i have yet to see any agency that runs both red and blue to the front in NY. except for my fire chiefs POV that has SnM E4 heads in B/R in the front which is technically illegal for him to do. but he doesnt care. he seams to believe that he wont get into any trouble because of his light setup.
lafd55 said:Yonker's Police Department runs R/B to front and I know I have seen some LI FDs run R/B. It's probably a rarity but I'm sure there are also unmarked cars that run R/B to the front somewhere in NY state.
No, I'm talking about Apparatus I have seen are R/B... This thread isn't about POVs...chrismartin1701 said:well i can understand if its on a LEO car but on a firefighters POV? it might be a gray area, but it just seems like someone should get in trouble for doing that.