NEW Feniex T-6 (discussion thread)
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From an installer's perspective alone, the smaller the light head is, the easier it is to mount in more locations I'm sure, but I want to see warning power before I decide to buy one.
John Hearne said:
From an installer's perspective alone, the smaller the light head is, the easier it is to mount in more locations I'm sure, but I want to see warning power before I decide to buy one.
NERT11
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I just bought a python 600 a few weeks ago and it has the 4 led heads, but the new diffuser lens which is the same as the one there. It's significantly brighter than the original python heads with only the 4 led modules. I can imagine that these would be incredibly bright as well.
Are these not the heads used in the avatar bars?
Are these not the heads used in the avatar bars?
Kent@MoveOverOutfitters
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I have about $5k worth of sold product coming in on Friday (ups willing) and I will have some on the T6's. I hope they arent too much different than what we had before.
eng18ine said:
They said the price would be about the same as the outgoing T-4 model ($50) but to be safe I would add on about $10 just because it's a new and improved product and it dosent make sense to keep the same price, maybe FENIEX can chime in?
scruffythewild said:
PM me if you have any questions for me to answer.
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Carlos SpicyWeiner
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Feniex said:
That's awesome... Just wish the dealers had this info. Hopefully we will be getting sales information soon? We've been holding off customers that are chomping at the bit for these things.
Feniex said:
Better fix that month long shipping time while your at it. I know I'm for one tired of losing customers over that. Having a great product is one thing, waiting a month only for them to go buy whelen or code3 who ship to you within a week is a whole other can of worms.......
badge22
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Perhaps one day they will actually REMOVE their discontinued products from their website. The fact that they are displaying the T-4 and shipping the T-6 is ludicrous. 
Feniex said:
Yeah, I'm happy it is the same price but when will you guys release stuff to the website? People who don't know about ELB have no clue about any new products except that one pic on the homepage with no description. Any word on the COBRA bars?
Flashguy
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:duh: :duh: :duh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh: :haha: :haha: Don't know about ELB...Ha!!scruffythewild said:
scruffythewild said:
PM me if you have any questions for me to answer.
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Tom
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Just saw another dealer post a video of the new cobra dash light on YouTube. From a dealer's prospective, it's discouraging to see that some dealers are more well informed than others.
Kd8bao
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tom said:
I agree. I know I am a new dealer but I found the rocker panel EX on another guys site for sale and I never was notified it went live. To hear there are dealers with product or selling it already and I have NO info at all is not sitting well. Love the product but come on. Maybe it's just my sales rep. Most times I know more than she does.
Kd8bao
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scruffythewild said:
The Cannon. 12 LED Dual color. Redesign to forward facing like the vertex. They got rid of the 60 deg platform. Not sure how I feel about it but it is what it is. I think there are some other features in the light also.
Kd8bao
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Kd8bao said:
Ok, thanks for clearing that up, they should consider doing something like what Strobes N' More did with the 35* Law's. I wish they had a section on their website for new products etc.. Like I said, I want to see the Cobra Bars and I also want to see if they come out with the Cobra 4X, not just the Cobra 2X, so many question's. Feniex- If their is one thing you guy's are good at it's keeping your new products secret. Lol.
Kent@MoveOverOutfitters
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My biggest frustration is the disconnect with engeneering and sales in the sense that there seems to be misinformation being given. If user Feniex is listening please PM me because I have a tech type question I am dying to get an answer to.
Thanks
Kent
Thanks
Kent
Kd8bao
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scruffythewild said:
The new strobes and more are a nice feature but the fairy was awesome. Especially for surface mount. Have awesome 180* dome coverage. They filled the light housing great also. IMO they should have kept the fairy design and added the 4 additional LEDs to each face. Now if they make the new lights with an actual "optical" lense then that would help the side throw. But again my rep was not sure about anything. I was telling her things she didn't even know yet. I may try and get a different rep. Like whoever VecTec lighting uses. Haha
Tom
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Kd8bao said:
I have Louis, who is pretty knowledgable. However, after Feniex implemented MAP pricing, I notified him twice of a dealer who had the Pegasus listed well below MAP at $489. To this day the same dealer has it for the same price. Nothing has been done to enforce the pricing.
Don't get me wrong, they have great products and nice employees, but there are some things that still need working on. Just one dealer's opinion.
Probably same dealer that has multiple violations that I keep reporting. But I had one thing wrong due to a typo and I got phone calls.
julietbravosierra
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NotNormalEnterprisesLLC said:
Typos are not allowed nor acceptable. LIVES are on the line here. :thumbsup:
Kent@MoveOverOutfitters
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I just got $5k worth of this stuff in and got to see the T6 (Cobra) for the first time.
The head is approx. 5 3/8" wide, 1 1/16" high, and 3/4" deep... They are 3 wire heads (red, blue, black) and I only played with them for a sec but the blue wire to ground changes the pattern. The solid color light heads have a resistor I assume in line with the red wire and the split color (red/blue) do not have it. They split color module the wires are tightly twisted and the solids are not twisted at all. The black bezel is epoxied on and wont come off, I like that because they were kind of a pain sometimes on the t4 but it limits certain applications. I didnt go through all the patterns or anything like that, this was just a quick once over. Also there was no data sheet or instruction sheet with these at all, I am sure its because they are so new.
If anyone was wondering, they are bright!
I should have more info after I go back in after the holidays.
Thanks
Kent
The head is approx. 5 3/8" wide, 1 1/16" high, and 3/4" deep... They are 3 wire heads (red, blue, black) and I only played with them for a sec but the blue wire to ground changes the pattern. The solid color light heads have a resistor I assume in line with the red wire and the split color (red/blue) do not have it. They split color module the wires are tightly twisted and the solids are not twisted at all. The black bezel is epoxied on and wont come off, I like that because they were kind of a pain sometimes on the t4 but it limits certain applications. I didnt go through all the patterns or anything like that, this was just a quick once over. Also there was no data sheet or instruction sheet with these at all, I am sure its because they are so new.
If anyone was wondering, they are bright!
I should have more info after I go back in after the holidays.
Thanks
Kent
Tom
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kenton1979 said:I just got $5k worth of this stuff in and got to see the T6 (Cobra) for the first time.
The head is approx. 5 3/8" wide, 1 1/16" high, and 3/4" deep... They are 3 wire heads (red, blue, black) and I only played with them for a sec but the blue wire to ground changes the pattern. The solid color light heads have a resistor I assume in line with the red wire and the split color (red/blue) do not have it. They split color module the wires are tightly twisted and the solids are not twisted at all. The black bezel is epoxied on and wont come off, I like that because they were kind of a pain sometimes on the t4 but it limits certain applications. I didnt go through all the patterns or anything like that, this was just a quick once over. Also there was no data sheet or instruction sheet with these at all, I am sure its because they are so new.
If anyone was wondering, they are bright!
I should have more info after I go back in after the holidays.
Thanks
Kent
Thanks for the info, Kent. Does the blue wire double as a sync wire and pattern select, or do these not sync?
Tom
Kent@MoveOverOutfitters
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I haven't played with them that much. I assume it does, if not these are no good to me. I don't really know how many patterns there are. I hope to mess with it more on the 26th when I go back to work.
Jman423
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What is it with Feniex? They are trying to push this thing, yet they still have the T4 on their site, and no mention of this anywhere. How are dealers supposed to sell it?
:hissyfit:
I'm NOT a dealer
:hissyfit:
I'm NOT a dealer
Kent@MoveOverOutfitters
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Jman423 said:
I don't understand some of the things they do myself. I am not sure if it's growing pains or just mismanagement. I have said before that the sales people and the engineers don't talk but when I ask my rep a question about the website that's a different division.
After thinking about these lights I kinda wish they would keep the T4 and just upgrade the flash driver. They could have a more diverse lineup I am concerned that the t6 will limit mount locations due to size. Same deal with the fairy, why not keep it in the lineup? Maybe there is a reason but unless they tell us why I don't understand.
badge22
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You know, there's no excuse for this bullshit. I highly doubt that they have all of these departments. It takes seconds to remove a discontinued product from a website. These people have about 60 products total, so there is really nothing for all these marketing and sales people to do. I have a hunch that the T-6 is already a failure or having issues (see Olyimpian) and they are trying to figure out what to do now. Maybe the sales people can't speak Chinese. Just sayin...
They are creating a PR catastrophe and bringing about more questions in regards to their product.
They are creating a PR catastrophe and bringing about more questions in regards to their product.
Carlos SpicyWeiner
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badge22 said:
The ISSUE lies in the fact that they are still selling some T-4's. A few dealers have said they are not selling the T-4 when they are selling the remainder of what they have PRIOR to the release of the T-6. Yes, the T-4 is discontinued, however; they still have stock they are going to move.
They are not going to release the full T-6 line-up until that stock is gone I'm assuming.
Kd8bao
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FEVER said:
When I asked about the T4. I was told basically they were out of stock. I asked why they were not keeping the T4 and fairy and they said " they would be to close to each others price to bother keeping both" I don't buy it. I had a light quoted to me python 2x to the new cobra 2x and it was almost $50 more. That is not the nominal price change they were talking like. IMHO. If anything. Keep whole lineup and add to it. Update older stuff. I asked about documents and how some people are selling prior to document release. They said the dealers are winging it off what they know already about products.
Tom
Member
Kd8bao said:
Which is nothing. Had I not called and asked why the option for red/clear T4s had been removed from the site, I would not have known about any new lights. Same with the new rocker lights (which I still don't have dealer pricing on).
The only thing I can think of is that they don't have enough in stock yet. Either way, in my opinion the dealers should be notified when a new product is being developed so they can begin to promote the new products and at the very least be somewhat informed.
Between the lack of information on new products, not being told when something is out of stock/has a lead time, etc, I'm beginning to get very aggravated. Communication has to improve.