Waste of a truck

DLuccia

Member
May 21, 2010
675
Greater Waterbury CT
charlie82 said:
I hope that thing is filled with Rehab equipment, tents etc.... Jeesh, overkill. Fire police around us have a f350 with a bed cover. I thought that was overkill because of the lights it had. Guess not...

The cos cob fire patrol there is pretty well stocked with overhall and salvage equipment. They also have a smaller unit


http://www.ccfpp.org/gallery_view_album.php?aid=18
 

ParkPiggy

Member
May 21, 2010
667
Northeast Ohio
No, the criticism is perfectly fine. This thing is about as useful, as a dept with no rivers or lakes, buying a flat bottom boat, and claiming they are going to use it for brush fires, since they can put gear in it and pull it behind a 4x4 truck!
 

ParkPiggy

Member
May 21, 2010
667
Northeast Ohio
And, I don't want my department to spend our money on one of these. I'd rather my department buy a pick up, which has multiple uses and cost significantly less money, yet accomplishes the same as this unitasker(any other Alton Brown fans?) does.
 

mjohnston

Member
May 24, 2010
51
Forest Grove, OR
It seems to be an East Coast type thing. Here, the police and DOT crews conduct traffic control on scene. Why place more fire service members in danger while doing traffic control?
 

PC Comms

Member
May 30, 2010
1,881
Beautiful southern Georgia!
If anyone wants, here is a Wikipedia history of Fire Police. In PA they have actual police powers fall under the control of the local or state police. Also, they are the only fire entity in PA that has the authority to "self activate". In other words, they do not have to be dispatched by a comm center. If they come upon an accident or other incident, anywhere within the state, they can perform their duties and department insurance will still cover them. The only place in PA where they don't have authority is the PA Turnpike.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_police
 

philyumpshus

Member
Jun 20, 2010
1,284
Malone, NY
DLuccia said:
The cos cob fire patrol there is pretty well stocked with overhall and salvage equipment. They also have a smaller unit
http://www.ccfpp.org/gallery_view_album.php?aid=18

I have a feeling that they do a lot more than "traffic control" but their name hasn't changed with the times. I don't care how much money I could be given- there is no WAY I could think of enough crap to fill a heavy rescue and a light rescue for simple scene lighting and traffic control.
 

Amanda

Member
May 24, 2010
193
NY, USA
PC Comms said:
If anyone wants, here is a Wikipedia history of Fire Police. In PA they have actual police powers fall under the control of the local or state police. Also, they are the only fire entity in PA that has the authority to "self activate". In other words, they do not have to be dispatched by a comm center. If they come upon an accident or other incident, anywhere within the state, they can perform their duties and department insurance will still cover them. The only place in PA where they don't have authority is the PA Turnpike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_police



In NYS Fire Police can activate also if they arrive on scene of an MVA or other incident where they would be needed. The only thing they need to do is to contact their department's Chief and advise that they are in fact involved in Fire Police duties outside of their district and then they're fully authorized to act as a peace officer on scene.


My fire department currently has a pickup truck that was the old Chief's vehicle and was replaced after a few years because we needed a bigger truck to pull our special operations/brush trailer. So as a result the truck was converted into a fire police truck with a cap, chevrons with FIRE POLICE across the tailgate, TA added to the rear, and it contains cones, barricades, emergency scene warning signs, and stop/slow signs. This truck has become incredibly useful and is used at every call. It can carry 4 firefighters to the scene or 2 fire police officers (with the driver remaining with the truck and the other firefighters being able to go to the scene for additional manpower).


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ParkPiggy

Member
May 21, 2010
667
Northeast Ohio
I didn't think they qualified as "Peace Officers", but special police, since they do not have full police authority, but limited powers related only to the control of traffic and crowds at an emergency. They can't go out and run radar, write speeding tickets, etc, etc.
 

Amanda

Member
May 24, 2010
193
NY, USA
From the NYS Student Manual - Fire Police Course

Some examples of peace officers include:
Town, village or police constables


Certain park rangers


Certain court officers


Probation officers


State Correctional Officers


Some fire marshalls


OFPC arson bureau investigators


OFPC fire inspection bureau


Fire police officers
 

PC Comms

Member
May 30, 2010
1,881
Beautiful southern Georgia!
Yeah, so there. LOL (Ironic that they're up there with "park rangers" :)
 

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