What is this patturn on this ambulance ide love to figure it out it's got all whelen lights and siren but no idea what patturn it is look at the link below to see the clip may not be the best but I hope you get an idea it's something like a modified triple flash or something
What is this light pattern
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tsquale
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I'll call it Fred.
Smartassery aside, I wonder if it is semi-custom via a Cantrol/WeCan/etc type program?
Smartassery aside, I wonder if it is semi-custom via a Cantrol/WeCan/etc type program?
I figured you would name it George lol
This is what I'm wondering I got a liberty wecan i/o board with control point I want to control my parameter lights with and ide like this patturn so I'm trying to figure out how to get this patturn on my i/o board
RS485
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Da-Sarge: I looked at every pattern in Whelen's "Command" and found nothing that quite fits what your video illustrates.
On one hand, it looks kind of like, "CA Double Flash 90", "Single Flash60", and "Double Flash 90" moshed up together but there's no wau I know of in "Command" to construct composite patterns like that.
So I tried to "roll-my-own" pattern based on what I thought I saw in your video. This was kind of confusing because the video seems to just show a really bright red lamp flashing and its anything but clear as to what other light heads are doing.
I focused on just replicating what I thought the red head was doing...then I spread out to the opposite side (the alternating 180 degree phase). That was when it dawned on me that I do believe your clip is illustrating a very customized "Flim Flam" pattern.
Here's my attempt to replicate "fred":
Ironically, this works as long as I don't connect my lightbar to a Whelen Control point or Sapphire. If I do, they both recognize the lightbar doesn't have the expected timing/patterns and in response, just reprogram them (obliterating "Fred").
So the the only way I can see to make your vision work, is to use a "WCC" controller (expensive! at around $190.00 USD) because it's "dumb" enough not to change the timing/patterns in the lightbar...it just assumes they're "stock' (PM me and make arrangements if you'd like to have this "fred" fried onto your a Liberty board such that no matter what switch setting you were to select on a "WCC", it would always flash "fred")
Side note: It would be wicked cool if Whelen open-sourced their timing/pattern development tools.
In any case, thanks for pointing to this really interesting pattern. This comes within inches of:
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On one hand, it looks kind of like, "CA Double Flash 90", "Single Flash60", and "Double Flash 90" moshed up together but there's no wau I know of in "Command" to construct composite patterns like that.
So I tried to "roll-my-own" pattern based on what I thought I saw in your video. This was kind of confusing because the video seems to just show a really bright red lamp flashing and its anything but clear as to what other light heads are doing.
I focused on just replicating what I thought the red head was doing...then I spread out to the opposite side (the alternating 180 degree phase). That was when it dawned on me that I do believe your clip is illustrating a very customized "Flim Flam" pattern.
Here's my attempt to replicate "fred":
Ironically, this works as long as I don't connect my lightbar to a Whelen Control point or Sapphire. If I do, they both recognize the lightbar doesn't have the expected timing/patterns and in response, just reprogram them (obliterating "Fred").
So the the only way I can see to make your vision work, is to use a "WCC" controller (expensive! at around $190.00 USD) because it's "dumb" enough not to change the timing/patterns in the lightbar...it just assumes they're "stock' (PM me and make arrangements if you'd like to have this "fred" fried onto your a Liberty board such that no matter what switch setting you were to select on a "WCC", it would always flash "fred")
Side note: It would be wicked cool if Whelen open-sourced their timing/pattern development tools.
In any case, thanks for pointing to this really interesting pattern. This comes within inches of:
Whelen Liberty NJSP Flash Pattern?
Does anybody know what the exact Flash Pattern for NJSP is? If you youtube NJSP you will see it is like a Cylon Pattern but it is a lot faster. The outside corner LEDs are not part of it and has the rapid flash pattern. The 6 LEDS in the middle go back and forth so fast that the bar has zero...
I dig patterns
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You basically got the patturn dead on it flashes all red and then shifts to white heads all I got is a standard wecan control point for the liberty board any clues how to get "fred" onto that control point? I do intend to use cruis on some of the heads but ya you pretty much have itDa-Sarge: I looked at every pattern in Whelen's "Command" and found nothing that quite fits what your video illustrates.
On one hand, it looks kind of like, "CA Double Flash 90", "Single Flash60", and "Double Flash 90" moshed up together but there's no wau I know of in "Command" to construct composite patterns like that.
So I tried to "roll-my-own" pattern based on what I thought I saw in your video. This was kind of confusing because the video seems to just show a really bright red lamp flashing and its anything but clear as to what other light heads are doing.
I focused on just replicating what I thought the red head was doing...then I spread out to the opposite side (the alternating 180 degree phase). That was when it dawned on me that I do believe your clip is illustrating a very customized "Flim Flam" pattern.
Here's my attempt to replicate "fred":
Ironically, this works as long as I don't connect my lightbar to a Whelen Control point or Sapphire. If I do, they both recognize the lightbar doesn't have the expected timing/patterns and in response, just reprogram them (obliterating "Fred").
So the the only way I can see to make your vision work, is to use a "WCC" controller (expensive! at around $190.00 USD) because it's "dumb" enough not to change the timing/patterns in the lightbar...it just assumes they're "stock' (PM me and make arrangements if you'd like to have this "fred" fried onto your a Liberty board such that no matter what switch setting you were to select on a "WCC", it would always flash "fred")
Side note: It would be wicked cool if Whelen open-sourced their timing/pattern development tools.
In any case, thanks for pointing to this really interesting pattern. This comes within inches of:
Whelen Liberty NJSP Flash Pattern?
Does anybody know what the exact Flash Pattern for NJSP is? If you youtube NJSP you will see it is like a Cylon Pattern but it is a lot faster. The outside corner LEDs are not part of it and has the rapid flash pattern. The 6 LEDS in the middle go back and forth so fast that the bar has zero...
I dig patterns
RS485
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Sorry, Da-Sarge -- I can't (and won't -- and we shouldn't ) mess with the Control Point (or Sapphire) -- As a fellow enthusiast, I hope you understand.You basically got the patturn dead on it flashes all red and then shifts to white heads all I got is a standard wecan control point for the liberty board any clues how to get "fred" onto that control point? I do intend to use cruis on some of the heads but ya you pretty much have it
Control-Point and Sapphire are programmed from software under Whelen's license agreement and we have to abide by those terms.
So how do I do this patturn that can be controlled by the sappires outputs (not the wecan port) its not much point to run 2 controllers lol I would like to figure out how to run this but that WCC has not got any inputs for vehicle inputs does it? Or have any analog outputs to trigger the sappires inputs to do its thing?