niagara16
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On all their slick top Chargers they have Red & Blue to the front. None of the chargers have the roof beacon. They only put those on the Crown Vics & Tahoe's.
FireEMSPolice
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They also used a few Impalas with the old beacon on top.DT_Fire said:
I've heard that the roof on the Charger is too flimsy to hold up a heavy beacon like that. I figure they oughta just use a Whelen RB6 instead of slicktop.FireEMSPolice said:
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nerdly_dood said:
I haven't seen an Impala on the road in quite some time.. But yes a few years back they did have a few Impala's with the beacons.
As far as the weight of the beacon; they are going to the LED style now and those don't have nearly as much weight as the older rotator beacons.
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KEEP the RV26's with the old rotating internals!! From what video I've seen of the new LED stacks, I like the old rotating internals better.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
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niagara16
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Ty are putting the roof bubble on the chargers now. they asked dodge to beef the roof up. The new beacons on the roof are made by and designed by Whelen.
Actaully the Unity RV lights are just being retrofitted. MSP has plenty of bases, domes and bands. The new lights are all red as the spitfire domes are no longer avalible. The internal LEDs are being made for them by whelen. As the cars are replaced or the lights develop problems with the motors they are changed out.
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niagara16 said:
Dodge or anyone else shouldnt have to beef anything up. MSP should get with the times and use a lightbar. Quit being stupid.
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FireEMSPolice said:
+1
It used to be tradition to have a Dalmatian go to fires with the crew. It used to be tradition to charge a patient before they got in the ambulance. Lastly, it used to be tradition for a police cruiser to pull along side you and tell you to pull over. I have yet to see a FD even keep a Dalmatian as a pet! I'm also pretty sure I'd be fired if I made a patient's family pay me before I started CPR! Now-a-days it's too damn dangerous to pull along side a car to signal a stop. Traditions die for a reason: they become outdated!
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I say keep some tradition.
The new MSP LED beacon seems plenty effective , and is unique. We have a fire chief up here who rides all day with his dalmation. Keeping some old school mixed with some of the new school is a good thing.
Dan
The new MSP LED beacon seems plenty effective , and is unique. We have a fire chief up here who rides all day with his dalmation. Keeping some old school mixed with some of the new school is a good thing.
Dan
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I guess MSP was workign with whelen for sometime on how to keep the existing becon light housing and just retrofit a LED into it.. took whelen 5 years to come up with something that would fit.. So all the LED's for their cars are custom made just for them, And they just kept the same housing and such too.
Iv seen the LED ones on their cars and in "action" few years ago when i went to oklahoma. Nothing fancy at all about the lights.. 1 flash pattern
Iv seen the LED ones on their cars and in "action" few years ago when i went to oklahoma. Nothing fancy at all about the lights.. 1 flash pattern
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For a state that doesnt have alot of money, it most cost a pretty penny to have lights custom made for them. I wonder how much they cost vs the cost of a new LED Justice, Liberty or some such. Seems like a watse.
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FireEMSPolice said:
I've read that the whole setup is $950 per. They've already cited a $250,000 yearly savings by not having to replace halogen beams and motors. The single beacon's profile also has far less wind-drag than even the thinnest modern lightbars. This means a higher top speed and greater fuel efficiency.
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niagara16
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Newberry13 said:
Whelen is not based in Michigan it is a Master Distrubitor of Whelen that got the State Police to start to convert.
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I know where Whelen is based. In the article it said that Whelen is a Michigan based manufacturer. I was being sarcastic! :bonk:
Some of the MSP cars and SUVs are appearing with light bats now. There is a grey Charger running around Detroit with a light bar along with a grey Mustang. A dark blue Tahoe is also running around the Western suburbs of Detroit with a light bar. When turned on, they are red/blue. In the 70's they tested light bars on the patrol cars, but decided to stay with the single red light on top.
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Detroit VAP said:
What the hell are light bats? Are they radioactive bats that fly in front of the car and bite people if they don't get out of the way? If so, I want a few! :hahano: Just messing with you! maybe they decided to join the 21st century!
Most MSP vehicles are running red/blue now. Lots of dark blue vehicles running around now and less and less "MSP Blue". Even some red, blue, and silver undercover Magnums.