2012 Ram 1500 - Help me update my POV

[gotbrains230]

Hello all! I have a 2012 Ram 1500 and I'm looking to add some lights to it, ANY input would be greatly appreciated!


Currently I have 4 red Sirennet linear surface mounts on my brush guard. They do the job but I just want more.


I want to add lights that are going to be more efficient but not look trashy. I WILL NOT have a large cluster of shitty looking unsynced blinding lights on my truck. I've seen lots of POVs in my area and it's ridiculous what some people will do LOL. Anyways, here's what I'm thinking


FRONT:


Feniex Apollo interior lightbar - R-R-R-R-W-W-R-R-R-R


2 Whelen M7, all red, mounted on brush guard


2 Feniex Cannon, all white, mounted in turn signal slot (small slot so it should have a good punch)


SIDE:


2 Feniex T6, red & white, mounted on either side of brush guard


2 Feniex T6, red & white, mounted on either side of rear bumper


REAR:


SNM E66 traffic adviser, all yellow (already installed)


2 Feniex apollo F6, all red, mounted on either side of TA


4 Feniex cannon, 2 red & 2 white, mounted in tail light & reverse slot


I may only install one set of white Feniex cannon in reverse as I don't want too much distraction in the back as I want most attention directed at the TA


Thanks for reading and any and all input is greatly appreciated :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[ozzyy1]

That sounds like a great set up. Can't wait to see it all finished.

 

[Marc M]

Is your truck 2 or 4 door? Do you have a toolbox and if so what style? What brand of grille guard?

 

[strobecrazy]

Sounds like you have things covered. Just add pics and videos.

 

[proudfirefighter]

I wouldn't really change anything to that. Commence with the build!

 

[gotbrains230]

Heres pic of the truck. Thanks everyone

 

[gotbrains230]

Is your truck 2 or 4 door? Do you have a toolbox and if so what style? What brand of grille guard?

I just posted some pics of the truck but it said it has to be approved by admin. Im not sure I did it right.

 

[unlisted]

I just posted some pics of the truck but it said it has to be approved by admin. Im not sure I did it right.

Taken care of. What kind of scene/driving lights are you using?

 

[gotbrains230]

Taken care of. What kind of scene/driving lights are you using?

Thanks. On the back its 4 - 27w floods and the front is a 37" 234w flood/spot. Both are Chinese shit. That front one will light the world LOL

 

[Carlos SpicyWeiner]

I personally can't wait to see it. Looks like it could be a great build. Love the bumper... just add lights and we all will be happy

 

[acala91]

Your setup sounds good but I would make some equipment changes.


Front:


Whelen Inner Edge XLP Red w/TDs (has Ram specific mount, extremely bright, TIR optics are better through tint)


Whelen M6 R/R (perfect for that grill guard)


Feniex Cannon W/W in fog lights synced with the M6s


Side:


Sirennet LED to the sides of the brush guard


Sirennet LED on the tool box sides


Rear:


E66 (obviously)


Feniex Cannons in the taillights (red brake/white reverse in an x-pattern)


Feniex T6s R/R under the tailgate synced with the cannons


Sync all the perimeter LEDs with a Whelen ULF44. This setup will be cheaper and more effective IMO. The setup you had planned is pretty good but would be better with the changes I mention above.


- Inner Edge XLP vs Apollo interior bar. The Apollo optics are a good design but not ideal for an interior lightbar. The Inner Edge is just stupid bright and very low profile. It costs almost the same as the Apollo and has a Ram specific model.


- Cannons in the foglights vs turn signals. The larger housing will be brighter and take more advantage of the light and won't look cluttered being so close to the grill light and intersection light.


- Mounting the Apollos right next to the T/A will look cluttered. You would be better off with T6s under the tailgate.


If you wanted to, the ULF44 gives you the ability to have one pattern going while responding (I love action flash) then switch to a slower pattern when in park.

 

[Eric1249]

If you have tint on the windshield go with a tir optic. It will go through the tint better. I wouldn't put anything to the sides of the rear bumper. I would go on the sides of the tool box.


I also agree to sync everything with an external flasher. I just put white Cannons in the fogs of my Explorer. I would do the same on your truck.

 

[CodeMan]

Refer's to the Holy Lighting Bible.


http://elightbars.org/forums/f13/illustrated-guide-adequate-lighting-30112/


The products? Well the professionals here are full of products and ideas :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[AllStrobedUp]

IMHO Action Flash is the best flash patter EVER. on scene I like a 90FPM single flash

 

[gotbrains230]

Thanks everyone!


I will need something that can get thru tint REALLY GOOD. My whole windshield is tinted 45% and on top of that I have a 16" 5% eyebrow. Illegal you ask? Highly LOL


I was thinking once I get the bar mounted I can cut the tint out around it and remount and tape around it for zero flashback


I'm not convinced I will like the Inner Edge more than the Apollo tho. The Whelen will only have 15 LEDs per side W/O TD vs Feniex 24 LEDs per side. But the Feniex also speads the lights out vs straight forward so I'll have to do some research on that.


I agree with putting some T6 under the tailgate, I'm not a big fan of lots of lights in one place, especially when they're flashing different colors at the same time.


I will move the Cannons to the fog lights. Thanks. And Ill make sure to get that ULF44.


I'll probably go ahead and get the 4 white Cannons and red T6 and get those mounted and work on getting the rest :thumbsup:


And the tint that I have to get thru. You can see the tint cut around the the inspection sticker so that's what I'm dealing with. And that pic is really old so I know it's expired LOL

 

[AllStrobedUp]

Thanks everyone!

I will need something that can get thru tint REALLY GOOD. My whole windshield is tinted 45% and on top of that I have a 16" 5% eyebrow. Illegal you ask? Highly LOL


I was thinking once I get the bar mounted I can cut the tint out around it and remount and tape around it for zero flashback


I'm not convinced I will like the Inner Edge more than the Apollo tho. The Whelen will only have 15 LEDs per side W/O TD vs Feniex 24 LEDs per side. But the Feniex also speads the lights out vs straight forward so I'll have to do some research on that.


I agree with putting some T6 under the tailgate, I'm not a big fan of lots of lights in one place, especially when they're flashing different colors at the same time.


I will move the Cannons to the fog lights. Thanks. And Ill make sure to get that ULF44.


I'll probably go ahead and get the 4 white Cannons and red T6 and get those mounted and work on getting the rest :thumbsup:


And the tint that I have to get thru. You can see the tint cut around the the inspection sticker so that's what I'm dealing with. And that pic is really old so I know it's expired LOL

I have a 35% windshield and a 16" 5% brow on my F-150 but have a waiver for tint but that's besides my point. TIR optics will punch through tint MUCH better than any linear or non dish style reflector do to the almost SPOT type pattern the reflector creates. I know from experience. OR you could cut the tint around the light and replace it with black perforated vinyl.

 

[Eric1249]

On my old truck I had just stock tint. I got a Sound Off Pinnacle and it was terrible. I then got a Pegasus (tir optics) and it was big improvement. Instead of having to get tint why not just get a light you can set on your dash? Less hassle.

 

[firemedic10584]

I have a Feniex Pegasus RAM specific in my 2013 RAM and LOVE it!! Fits perfect and very little to no flashback. It moves traffic amazingly well. As for the T-6s, I've strayed away from them. I seemed to have nothing but failures on them so I'm looking into other brands to get my truck lit back up. I'm only running the pegasus for now.

 

[mhchockey84]

grand cherokee W/ Dual Talon behind 35% tint and black matrix dots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQepKSBKKs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQepKSBKKs

 

[strobecrazy]

grand cherokee W/ Dual Talon behind 35% tint and black matrix dots




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQepKSBKKs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQepKSBKKs

I agree. Maybe go with a dashlight then add two more m series lights in the grille for a x pattern.

 

[acala91]

Thanks everyone!

I will need something that can get thru tint REALLY GOOD. My whole windshield is tinted 45% and on top of that I have a 16" 5% eyebrow. Illegal you ask? Highly LOL


I was thinking once I get the bar mounted I can cut the tint out around it and remount and tape around it for zero flashback


I'm not convinced I will like the Inner Edge more than the Apollo tho. The Whelen will only have 15 LEDs per side W/O TD vs Feniex 24 LEDs per side. But the Feniex also speads the lights out vs straight forward so I'll have to do some research on that.


I agree with putting some T6 under the tailgate, I'm not a big fan of lots of lights in one place, especially when they're flashing different colors at the same time.


I will move the Cannons to the fog lights. Thanks. And Ill make sure to get that ULF44.


I'll probably go ahead and get the 4 white Cannons and red T6 and get those mounted and work on getting the rest :thumbsup:


And the tint that I have to get thru. You can see the tint cut around the the inspection sticker so that's what I'm dealing with. And that pic is really old so I know it's expired LOL

That dark of tint is going to kill the output of any interior bar, especially one with optics like the Apollo. I haven't seen an Apollo in person but I have seen a Pegasus and an Inner Edge XLP and the XLP is brighter.


Check out this install that uses an XLP inner edge and sync with a ULF44 set to action flash.


http://elightbars.org/forums/f34/2013-hcsd-tahoe-lives-finally-56150/

 

[Surgicalcric]

From one Ram guy to another, if you are going to leave that tint you'd do better with an apollo-2 (or another dash light of your choosing) on the dash and spend the saved money on perimeter lighting.


Honestly no matter what ILB you choose the tint is going to degrade its effectiveness to the point you need to ask if the cool factor of the tint is greater than your need for good frontal warning. My .02.


Love the brush guard.


Crip

 

[BAKE19]

I have a 2013 RAM... I'll post up pictures this weekend. I have 2 more IONs coming that should arrive Friday. I just have a blue dual avenger behind the rear view mirror (fits like a glove), 4 blue IONs in the grile, 2 amber Strobes n' More E3s on the toolbox facing rear, a blue slim lighter (TIR) in the back window at the top, and a PA300 hidden away with the air horn wired to a switch. The two additional IONs will be going in the area were the bumper meets the front wheel well for intersections. That will be it... for now at least. The IONs and avenger kick a$$ up front!!

 

[gotbrains230]

I finally got around to doing something lol. I added 2 Whelen M6 on the grille and installed the Feniex storm siren & speaker. I also have 4 Feniex T6 R/W that I plan on installing this weekend. One on both sides of toolbox and one on both side of brush guard. I think I'll be adding 4 more Whelen M6 on the back, 2 red and 2 blue. I'm very impressed with the M6, they're super bright. Still haven't figured out which route I'll be going with the visor bar.

I'm trying to add a couple videos but it's pretty obvious I have no clue what I'm doing. I'm using photobucket and all my videos are mp4

 

[tsquale]

I'm sure the M6s look sweet! Add the links to photobucket so we can see vids!

 

[pdk9]

Nice truck. Have you considered the FedSig spectralux ILB? I'm mostly a Whelen guy, but I think that lightbar blows every other ILB out of the market.


I'd also consider moving the rigid-type lightstick to the lower portion of the brushguard (just above the LP) b/c I think it looks awkward up there

 

[paff2]

I finally got around to doing something lol. I added 2 Whelen M6 on the grille and installed the Feniex storm siren & speaker. I also have 4 Feniex T6 R/W that I plan on installing this weekend. One on both sides of toolbox and one on both side of brush guard. I think I'll be adding 4 more Whelen M6 on the back, 2 red and 2 blue. I'm very impressed with the M6, they're super bright. Still haven't figured out which route I'll be going with the visor bar.


I'm trying to add a couple videos but it's pretty obvious I have no clue what I'm doing. I'm using photobucket and all my videos are mp4

  Did you consider the R/W Apollo modules vs the split T6? Would be sweet on an alternating pattern of the red and white with white over ride for alley lights.  I know you already have the lights but just an idea. 

 

[tacomabanga19861986]

how much was the spot/flood lights you got on front? need something on my truck

and i liked my awl venom bar i had, ecept i had wrong mounts so i took it out and sold it, never had time to fix it with flashback, but it was way to bright for me to use at night, even behind 35% tint 

anyways, good luck with build, would like to see it once finished

 

[gotbrains230]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdK0OB8K6ZI

It was right around 200 I think. It's awesome for driving down back roads at night, super bright.


I like your interior lightbar. I've looked at them before but I wasn't too sure about them. I'll look at them again now.

 

[acala91]

Looks great! There isn't a better grill light available IMO. If you are able to, I would definitely add a HLF.

 

[gotbrains230]

Looks great! There isn't a better grill light available IMO. If you are able to, I would definitely add a HLF.

Thanks man. I've been looking at them. I have one on my peterbilt but I'm not sure of the model # but it's a whelen. I have led headlights in my fogs, lows, and highs so I might sync the M6 with the highs, not sure yey

 

[acala91]

That would be awesome to have the high beams synced in an x-pattern with the M6s

 

[gotbrains230]

I got everything hooked up, now I need help. I'm gonna be adding 2 more M6 to the grille synced in an "x" pattern. Should I put the fogs on the high beam flasher as well? Of course they would be synced in an "x" pattern too. Don't know how blinding that would be as I ran the flasher for the first time last night, but it didn't seem to bother anyone. If I determine it won't be too blinding I'll end up syncing the whole front end. I'll also be adding some cannons to the reverse lights. Now, to the part everyone wants. I had to turn the headlights off for the night video as it was too much for the camera.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR3tLp--qxo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPd_nd5TefY

 

[acala91]

I like it but it looks like the HLF might be a bit much at night. I think you need to add something in the windshield, or better yet a lightbar on the backrack. One other thing, the light stick to the rear needs to be on a slower pattern IMO. 

 

[gotbrains230]

Thanks man. I've been looking into an ILB but idk which one I want yet. I'll change the rear bar to the slower pattern. The pattern it's set to has two speeds. Do you like the pattern. Here's a video of the siren take about 50 ft away. This is why I think the fogs should be on the flasher too. They're pretty much the same brightness since they're all LED bulbs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZB0nj9FSmU

 

[Eric1249]

I wouldn't add the fogs.  It would be too much white and over power the red. 

 

[gotbrains230]

I just ordered two more M6 for the grille and two Feniex Cannon for reverse. I'm also looking at the Feniex Pegasus. This should solve the problem of the white washing everything out. I also added the fogs to the flasher.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj5n8Pq5QtI

 

[Storm4200]

i think the LED wig wags look fantastic. I think the fogs are too much though. are you gonna have 2 separate X patterns going? 

 

[firemedic10584]

If you're looking for an interior lightbar, go look at my thread "My POV 2013 RAM" in the installs. It's just a few down from this thread. I have the Feniex Pegasus and love it. Fitment is perfect and it works great!

 

[Eric1249]

If you're looking for an interior lightbar, go look at my thread "My POV 2013 RAM" in the installs. It's just a few down from this thread. I have the Feniex Pegasus and love it. Fitment is perfect and it works great!

Truck looks great.  There is a guy on my Dept that has too much lighting on his truck.  I told him that clean and simple is the way to go and told him to look at yours.

I have an all red Pegasus.  I took the flasher out and synced it with my mirror lights (with a ULF44 of course)  It is a great bar.