They contact me every few months asking me to carry their products. I'm really not interested because most of their stuff is knock-off. Since 95% of our business is selling to various levels of government, we will only bring on lines that are proved and backed up. If you are a VFF and want to try them out, feel free, but I suspect that you'd be better off buying Feniex, Federal, or similar. The Federal micropulse series is at least as thin as the one from 8EVP. We use tons of them and have rarely had a failure. The Micropulse is made offshore and re-branded by Federal, but they are made to Federal's standards and thoroughly tested to meet Federal's engineering standards for light output, RFI, etc.