air horn with "stutter" sound

ofd149

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Aug 17, 2011
20
West Haven, ct
hey everyone... i don't know if this has been asked already (i only quickly looked) i have a whelen pah100 in my truck now but i want something a little more powerful!! so i saw that federal sig has a decent air horn sound on there EQ2B siren, emailed them and they do not make JUST the horn sound on the EQ2B like whelen has with out a siren.... i am NOT going to spend 1500.00 on a EQ2B JUST for the horn. so the point in this is does ANYONE make a TANK-LESS air horn that is separate from the siren?? thanks in advance


tim
 

Zapp Brannigan

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May 23, 2010
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The only REAL one is the Grover Stuttertone. Yes, I know its not a "tank-less", aka not air-powered, but you need this, its the only way to go!! :thumbsup:

 

JazzDad

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Aug 5, 2011
5,165
USA
Record the sound you like, then with a cheap MP3 player feed it into your electronic siren amp (via the radio input, if you're not using it). If you feed it into the mic input (because you don't use it), you'll have to knock the audio level down with a voltage divider network (a few resistors).
 

RyanZ71

Member
Jun 14, 2011
1,001
Denver, Colorado
MAN I'd love to have that real air horn. Not to go scaring the crap out of people like some idiots do on you tube with train horns, (I have a fist with their name on it to go into their jaw if I ever see one of em) but for a future parade fire rig :D
 

Skip Goulet

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Feb 23, 2011
4,241
Midland, TX
The airhorn sound on the EQ2 siren is awesome! It doesn't have the true stutterone, but the "bleeting" sound like you used to hear on Engine 51 on "Emergency!". The Carsons are as close as you're going to find to a true Stuttertone airhorn.


My friend Lou Farah, who's executive director of Professional Cars International, based in Burbank, CA, has a 1969 hightop Stoner/Chevy Suburban ambulance. The truck has a big B&M Super Chief siren over the cab and a real Grover Stuttertone airhorn with a very long trumpet mounted to the side of the left-front fender.


PCI has a Summer Meet combined with the American Heroes Airshow every years that features a rollin' to the rescue Code 3 parade. When I got to attend back in 2002, I got to drive that Suburban ambulance in the Code 3 run; and it was absolutely awesome getting to run "hot" on an L.A. freeway with an LAPD escort, using the big Super Chief and that awesome ear-shattering Stuttertone! :yes:


Odessa Fire/Rescue purchased three big International ambulances from Braun. These trucks have Whelen electronic sirens, a Screamin' Eagle motor siren mounted into the front bumper, and a bodacious train-type airhorn that can be heard for over a mile.....which I can attest to!
 

Wailer

Member
May 24, 2010
2,298
Canada
RyanZ71 said:
scaring the crap out of people like some idiots do on you tube with train horns

That's the macho thing to do.

Skip Goulet said:
the "bleeting" sound like you used to hear on Engine 51 on "Emergency!"

If you're thinking of the sound that was dubbed in for the Ward LaFrance pumper, it sounds like an electric buzzer, not an air horn.
 

RyanZ71

Member
Jun 14, 2011
1,001
Denver, Colorado
The siren for Squad-51 on the TV show was dubbed. But you would hear the real stuff for Engine-51 many a times on the TV. Both the Crown and the WLF


Here's the real things from Squad and Engine-51.

 

Wailer

Member
May 24, 2010
2,298
Canada
The siren sound that was dubbed in for Squad 51 is a Federal PA20 (it does not sound anything like the more common PA20A series 2E).


The siren sound that was dubbed in for the Ward LaFrance Engine 51 sounds like a Federal Q series mechanical siren. The siren sound dubbed in for the Crown Firecoach sounds more like a B&M S8 or Super Chief, although the Crown actually had an electronic siren.


Yes, that is the actual air horn of the WLF in the video clip.


The horn sound that was dubbed in is an electric buzzer, not a horn. The sound effects people really messed things up when they dubbed in the sounds.
 
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Skip Goulet

Member
Feb 23, 2011
4,241
Midland, TX
Wailer said:
The siren sound that was dubbed in for Squad 51 is a Federal PA20 (it does not sound anything like the more common PA20A series 2E).

The siren sound that was dubbed in for the Ward LaFrance Engine 51 sounds like a Federal Q series mechanical siren. The siren sound dubbed in for the Crown Firecoach sounds more like a B&M S8 or Super Chief, although the Crown actually had an electronic siren.


Yes, that is the actual air horn of the WLF in the video clip.


The horn sound that was dubbed in is an electric buzzer, not a horn. The sound effects people really messed things up when they dubbed in the sounds.

The dubbed in siren on the Ward-LaFrance sounded like a Q because that truck actually had a Q. Kevin O'Connell who owns B&M has told me that the mechanical sound used for the old Crown Engine 51 was, indeed, the sound of an S8B. What used to irritate me to no end was when their sound engineers would dub-in the hi-lo sound from real hi-lo horns on top of Squad 51's siren. It was inappropriate, to say the least, because CA did not allow the hi-lo sound on emergency vehicles back then.
 

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