And also got my soon to be knock off Visibar

[Captain4164]

Got it all taken apart today, will polish and maybe cut it down to size, deciding on what to do it with.... lollipop lights and a beacon, or two beacons and a speaker. Already has nice stainless discs maybe for mounting beacons

 

[Captain4164]

I know Dan, you said not to, but he made me an offer I couldnt refuse, lol

 

[plybeep68]

Was that on ebay a few weeks ago? Looks like a North American bar!

 

[Captain4164]

Yeah, it was, he was asking 79 bucks for it. And it said no shipping, but I guess he didnt have many bites on it so I talked him into shipping it to me, 75 bucks, came UPS, one of the strobe bases was smashed, but I dont care, not gonna use em anyway.


May not be a good bar, but I wanna make a good one outta it

 

[Captain4164]

What is the actual length of a Visibar? It was mentioned this bar is too long, its 75".

 

[dmathieu]

I know Dan, you said not to, but he made me an offer I couldnt refuse, lol

As long as you can use it, you can't beat a good deal.

 

[plybeep68]

What is the actual length of a Visibar? It was mentioned this bar is too long, its 75".

My Visibars are 54",, I bought one from a guy in South Carolina last year that someone had cut down to 44".

 

[Captain4164]

My Visibars are 54",, I bought one from a guy in South Carolina last year that someone had cut down to 44".

Ok, so the standard is 54". Dunno if Ill cut it down or not..

 

[plybeep68]

Ok, so the standard is 54". Dunno if Ill cut it down or not..

that big bar has a ton of possibilities!!


http://elightbars.org/forums/f18/north-american-unity-lightbar-beast-24827/

 

[Captain4164]

that big bar has a ton of possibilities!!
http://elightbars.org/forums/f18/north-american-unity-lightbar-beast-24827/

Now THAT has got me thinking............ :undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:

 

[Captain4164]

Well I did a tentative test of what I want to do with this bar today. I kinda dont wanna reveal my plan yet, but at the same time I want some opinions.


I have all but one light that I bought from a member here, dont even wanna say who just yet cuz it may reveal what Im gonna do......


So, do I show ya all now, or wait??????? :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:

 

[plybeep68]

I hate suspense!! Show us now! You know you will get honest opinions!!

 

[Captain4164]

I hate suspense!! Show us now! You know you will get honest opinions!!

:undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:

 

[Captain4164]

Ok, since its not complete, Im not revealing my full vision. So here it is:


Do I do the two Dietz 211s and two lollipop lights, which also happen to be Dietz, with the CP25


Or just the two 211s and the speaker.


Personally, I think WITH the lollipop lights looks better, too plain without them, but my concern is how will it look with them operating on an alternating flasher next to the two 211s??

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

:undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:

*chants* show us now! show us now! *chants*

 

[plybeep68]

I like it with the lollipops!! You have enough room to add a second chrome bugcatcher!! I do like your way of thinking! :thumbsup:

 

[Captain4164]

Ha ha, thanks! I think one speaker is good, but I do like the two lollipops and I think the 211s are gonna be just awesome on this set up.


I wanna try to get the 211s to rotate in opposite ways.


Lookin forward to gettin the 211 from Pinball Charlie and gettin workin on settin it up and gettin them chromed.


More to come!!

 

[Shawn L]

dont wanna do a thread hyjack but I have several of these mounting bars ,

 

[Captain4164]

The whole bar, or just the mounting feet?

 

[Shawn L]

I have the whole bars with feet, most have mounting hooks also. I have one with dual deitz beacons, that is a deitz bar also, and I have 1 that has a ecco amber mini lightbar, plus a stack of them that are bare( no lights just feet and the bar)

 

[ERIC6913]

I got some suspense for you guys, he he he......One of my upcoming projects involves glass, blue plastic, stainless, noise and some oscillation!

 

[JennyCop]

Ok, since its not complete, Im not revealing my full vision. So here it is:

Do I do the two Dietz 211s and two lollipop lights, which also happen to be Dietz, with the CP25


Or just the two 211s and the speaker.


Personally, I think WITH the lollipop lights looks better, too plain without them, but my concern is how will it look with them operating on an alternating flasher next to the two 211s??

Do the two Dietz 211s with the Lollipop lights, It looks fantastic that way! Please post a video of it in action once you complete it! Great job! I love your thinking! :yes: :thumbsup:

 

[stansdds]

Another vote here for dual Dietz 211's and dual Dietz lollipops. That's a very wide bar, it needs "balance" and without the lollipops it looks barren.

 

[Captain4164]

Another vote here for dual Dietz 211's and dual Dietz lollipops. That's a very wide bar, it needs "balance" and without the lollipops it looks barren.

Yup, I agree, too empty


Thanks for everyones opinions!! :thumbsup:

 

[Captain4164]

Do the two Dietz 211s with the Lollipop lights, It looks fantastic that way! Please post a video of it in action once you complete it! Great job! I love your thinking! :yes: :thumbsup:

Video will definitely be posted, Im excited to see all the amount of lights!! THANKS

 

[Wailer]

A Visibar rack is incomplete without a speaker. The two Dietz beacons, lollipop blinkers, and the CP25 in the middle would look great in my opinion.

 

[Captain4164]

Ok guys and gals, IM second guessing myself.....


I got another Dietz 211 from Charlie, Thanks for that! Nice light!!


Ok, here we go....


The bar shown here is 75" long, so more lights is better obviously for that much room.


I also bought the Dietz bar, with two 740 amber dome beacons from Shawn L off this site, as shown above in the first picture of his post. Waiting for those to arrive.


NOW.....


Do I put the two 211s on the short bar, since they have four beams? And put the two 740s on the long bar since the lollipop lights are on that bar???


Im also considering clear domes on the 740s for the long bar, then put a red and a clear beam in each light for more eye catching.


Almost like to do the clear on the 211s and do two red and two clear in those too....


Decisions decisions decisions


:undecided: :undecided: :undecided:


Oh, PS, Skip, clear out your messages!!! Cant send anything cuz it says your over your storage limit!!

 

[Captain4164]

View attachment 43455

This is the bar I bought from Shawn.... Clear domes and a red beam and a clear beam????


Also, Ive added a link to my photobucket account

 

[stansdds]

On the subject of using clear domes with red and clear bulbs...


Since these are not synchronized beacons, how about setting up with one side with a red dome or clear dome and red bulbs and the other side with a clear dome and red and clear bulbs? Clear flashes are much more visible than red during the day, but at night they can be distracting. Without synchronization you can end up with all clear flashes for a while until the motor speed mis-match between the two beacons mixes the flash colors.


Getting Dietz beacons to rotate in opposite directions might be possible, but they would have to be electrically isolated from the bar. That's going to be tough as you will need to use metal bolts to connect the beacons to the bar.

 

[Captain4164]

On the subject of using clear domes with red and clear bulbs...

Since these are not synchronized beacons, how about setting up with one side with a red dome or clear dome and red bulbs and the other side with a clear dome and red and clear bulbs? Clear flashes are much more visible than red during the day, but at night they can be distracting. Without synchronization you can end up with all clear flashes for a while until the motor speed mis-match between the two beacons mixes the flash colors.


Getting Dietz beacons to rotate in opposite directions might be possible, but they would have to be electrically isolated from the bar. That's going to be tough as you will need to use metal bolts to connect the beacons to the bar.

Great info, THANKS!! Ill keep all that in mind, may just keep the 211s all red then.

 

[Crownfire]

I always liked the look of a second color on dual-beacon bars. Maybe an amber dome on one of the 211's?


Definitely keep the large beacons on the long bar and the smaller beacons on the short bar.

 

[dmathieu]

I always liked the look of a second color on dual-beacon bars. Maybe an amber dome on one of the 211's?

Definitely keep the large beacons on the long bar and the smaller beacons on the short bar.

I like this idea!

 

[Captain4164]

So now I just gotta find a CLEAR DOME FOR A 211!!!

 

[Kd8bao]

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Getting Dietz beacons to rotate in opposite directions might be possible, but they would have to be electrically isolated from the bar. That's going to be tough as you will need to use metal bolts to connect the beacons to the bar.

But being DC don't you just reverse polarity to get motor to spin opposite? That's how window motors work, right?

 

[plybeep68]

So now I just gotta find a CLEAR DOME FOR A 211!!!

Good Luck on finding a dietz dome, your best bet would be a stratolite dome from north american signal, i think they have them listed for $37.50 each

 

[Captain4164]

Good Luck on finding a dietz dome, your best bet would be a stratolite dome from north american signal, i think they have them listed for $37.50 each

HA, a clear Dietz will be the ultimate goal, Ill hold off for one, SOME DAY :drooling: FOr now the 211s will stay all red domes, and the 740s will get clear

 

[plybeep68]

On the subject of using clear domes with red and clear bulbs...



Getting Dietz beacons to rotate in opposite directions might be possible, but they would have to be electrically isolated from the bar. That's going to be tough as you will need to use metal bolts to connect the beacons to the bar.

That would look awesome!!

 

[Captain4164]

Im gonna try to GIT ER DONE!!. If I had clear domes on the 211s, with red and clear beams, rotating opposite..... :drooling: :drooling: :drooling: :drooling: :drooling:

 

[stansdds]

But being DC don't you just reverse polarity to get motor to spin opposite? That's how window motors work, right?

The motors definitely will, but the motors are grounded through the metal beacon base. I have a 7-11 and a 211-WW sitting on a display shelf, both have two-wire hook ups. I checked with an ohm-meter and applying positive voltage to the positive lead and touching the negative lead to the base completed the circuit just as well as touching the negative lead to the negative hook up wire. That is why you would have to electrically isolate at least the beacon you want rotating in the opposite direction.

 

[Captain4164]

Ok, cuz i just tried it touchin to my truck battery, and no matter what I did it will spin counter clockwise.


So that means I need to insulate the motor and run the ground somewhere else?


Cuz I really wanna do this!