Blue dome, amber lights?

VFVFCo.68

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Jun 15, 2010
64
Valley Forge, PA

A video of FDNY Rescue 2 going on a run. Note the blue surface mounts on the back of the truck, then note them again when they turn on. They are clearly amber LEDs under a blue dome. Is their a certain reason for that?
 

dustymedic

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May 21, 2010
633
Columbus,OH
I think someone wanted to change the rear ambers to blue and they didn't understand how LED produced light works...
 

Amanda

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May 24, 2010
193
NY, USA
PD has been running blue to the rear for around 2 or 3 years now I'm pretty sure. In the Fall of 2010 the state allowed fire departments to run blue to the rear.
 

VolEms

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May 24, 2010
2,109
NY, USA
At least the new Rescue 5 FDNY has blue led's with blue lenses. The law just changed for FD in NY to have Blue to the rear so I guess they are in the middle of changing them. I dont know why EMS was left out the last second. the NYS Vol Rescue and Ambulance As. is trying to change the law for EMS as well. Of course the FDNY new ambuances will have Blue to the rear since they are under FD.
 

911

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May 22, 2010
3,834
New York City
alot of ambulances in the city started putting blue, and in the end, nys wouldnt recertify them and the leds had to be changed..........
 

911

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May 22, 2010
3,834
New York City
are you sure they were nypd ? and not federal? generally nypd doesnt use blue in the front ,as its unauthroized..... i know some vehicles have it, but most dont
 

badge22

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Aug 14, 2010
934
MI, United States
Why is all of a sudden necessary for NY to start putting blue on the rear of Police and Fire vehicles? Why not pass a useful law like allowing Vol. / on-call responders to start using the appropriate emergency colors for their agencies and sirens?
 

wd97tj

Member
Jan 5, 2011
46
ny
badge22 said:
Why is all of a sudden necessary for NY to start putting blue on the rear of Police and Fire vehicles? Why not pass a useful law like allowing Vol. / on-call responders to start using the appropriate emergency colors for their agencies and sirens?

because its NY "Welcome to NY the SUE YOU STATE":-x


I hope my Fire Dist gets blue to the rear soon all of our rigs and command cars look like tow trucks from the rear:duh:
 

PC Comms

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May 30, 2010
1,881
Beautiful southern Georgia!
I have been hearing rumor that NFPA is going to mandate a certain percentage of lighting on the rear of fire apparatus be amber. Better than 50% from what I understand.
 

shott8283

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Jun 2, 2010
249
Western NY
PC Comms said:
I have been hearing rumor that NFPA is going to mandate a certain percentage of lighting on the rear of fire apparatus be amber. Better than 50% from what I understand.


thats gona fly like a lead balloon


and for NY we just recently got governmental approval to have 1 ,, ONE rear facing blue light on fire and ems emergency vehicles including chiefs. the coppers got that approval a year or two ago.
 

JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
10,925
Northwest Ohio
Fail! Blue lens over amber LEDs.... :duh:


Sad to see on a major dept...
 
Oct 27, 2010
279
Irving TX
shott8283 said:
thats gona fly like a lead balloon

Like this? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1G8wTjB--Q


I know that in Professional commercial lighting, Blue and amber create a kind've dirty brown color. As for why the amber LED's look still yellow through a blue filter... I'm not at all sure.
 
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philyumpshus

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Jun 20, 2010
1,281
Malone, NY
shott8283 said:
thats gona fly like a lead balloon


and for NY we just recently got governmental approval to have 1 ,, ONE rear facing blue light on fire and ems emergency vehicles including chiefs. the coppers got that approval a year or two ago.

I'm pretty sure you can have more than one blue light, it just needs to be in conjunction with red lights. They should do what badge22 suggested and give us blue lighters sirens.
 

VolEms

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May 24, 2010
2,109
NY, USA
shott8283 said:
thats gona fly like a lead balloon


and for NY we just recently got governmental approval to have 1 ,, ONE rear facing blue light on fire and ems emergency vehicles including chiefs. the coppers got that approval a year or two ago.

The law states as long as its mixed with some red you can have as much blue as you want.
 

VolEms

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May 24, 2010
2,109
NY, USA
philyumpshus said:
I'm pretty sure you can have more than one blue light, it just needs to be in conjunction with red lights. They should do what badge22 suggested and give us blue lighters sirens.

Or at least let you use air horns and white mixed with the blue like in NJ.
 

Zapp Brannigan

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May 23, 2010
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NYC is a completely different animal from NYS. For years, it seems that agencies in NYC run to the beat of a different drummer. I DO believe... somewhere, there is a sort of an exemption for Cities (locations that qualify as a city based on a minimum population) that can make their own laws that may be different from the state it is in itself, because it is "it's own entity"...


Or something like that...
 
May 24, 2010
1,627
PG County, MD
Bigredinstalls said:
Like this? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1G8wTjB--Q


I know that in Professional commercial lighting, Blue and amber create a kind've dirty brown color. As for why the amber LED's look still yellow through a blue filter... I'm not at all sure.

Commercial lighting generally uses gells over a white light, this is an Amber LED (think wavelegnth) thru a blue lens, not as bright as going thru a clear or even an amber lens, but it will still be Amber. Same thing for a red LED thru an Amber or blue lens, it will still be red, just not as bright as thru a clear or red lens.
 

FDNY 10-75

Member
May 24, 2010
457
NY
Doug said:
In watching Counterterror NYC last night, I noticed a surprising amount of blue to the front of several NYPD vehicles. Is this limited to NYPD, or law enforcement in general in NY?

Most of the vehicles you saw in the show with forward facing blue were actually US Secret Service vehicles. Some Chiefs and Comissioners run r/w/b to the front.
 

rwo978

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May 21, 2010
5,196
ND, USA
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