Blue dome, amber lights?

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A video of FDNY Rescue 2 going on a run. Note the blue surface mounts on the back of the truck, then note them again when they turn on. They are clearly amber LEDs under a blue dome. Is their a certain reason for that?
 
I think someone wanted to change the rear ambers to blue and they didn't understand how LED produced light works...
 
PD has been running blue to the rear for around 2 or 3 years now I'm pretty sure. In the Fall of 2010 the state allowed fire departments to run blue to the rear.
 
At least the new Rescue 5 FDNY has blue led's with blue lenses. The law just changed for FD in NY to have Blue to the rear so I guess they are in the middle of changing them. I dont know why EMS was left out the last second. the NYS Vol Rescue and Ambulance As. is trying to change the law for EMS as well. Of course the FDNY new ambuances will have Blue to the rear since they are under FD.
 
alot of ambulances in the city started putting blue, and in the end, nys wouldnt recertify them and the leds had to be changed..........
 
In watching Counterterror NYC last night, I noticed a surprising amount of blue to the front of several NYPD vehicles. Is this limited to NYPD, or law enforcement in general in NY?
 
are you sure they were nypd ? and not federal? generally nypd doesnt use blue in the front ,as its unauthroized..... i know some vehicles have it, but most dont
 
Why is all of a sudden necessary for NY to start putting blue on the rear of Police and Fire vehicles? Why not pass a useful law like allowing Vol. / on-call responders to start using the appropriate emergency colors for their agencies and sirens?
 
badge22 said:
Why is all of a sudden necessary for NY to start putting blue on the rear of Police and Fire vehicles? Why not pass a useful law like allowing Vol. / on-call responders to start using the appropriate emergency colors for their agencies and sirens?

because its NY "Welcome to NY the SUE YOU STATE":-x


I hope my Fire Dist gets blue to the rear soon all of our rigs and command cars look like tow trucks from the rear:duh:
 
I have been hearing rumor that NFPA is going to mandate a certain percentage of lighting on the rear of fire apparatus be amber. Better than 50% from what I understand.
 
PC Comms said:
I have been hearing rumor that NFPA is going to mandate a certain percentage of lighting on the rear of fire apparatus be amber. Better than 50% from what I understand.


thats gona fly like a lead balloon


and for NY we just recently got governmental approval to have 1 ,, ONE rear facing blue light on fire and ems emergency vehicles including chiefs. the coppers got that approval a year or two ago.
 
Fail! Blue lens over amber LEDs.... :duh:


Sad to see on a major dept...
 
shott8283 said:
thats gona fly like a lead balloon

Like this? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1G8wTjB--Q


I know that in Professional commercial lighting, Blue and amber create a kind've dirty brown color. As for why the amber LED's look still yellow through a blue filter... I'm not at all sure.
 
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shott8283 said:
thats gona fly like a lead balloon


and for NY we just recently got governmental approval to have 1 ,, ONE rear facing blue light on fire and ems emergency vehicles including chiefs. the coppers got that approval a year or two ago.

I'm pretty sure you can have more than one blue light, it just needs to be in conjunction with red lights. They should do what badge22 suggested and give us blue lighters sirens.
 
shott8283 said:
thats gona fly like a lead balloon


and for NY we just recently got governmental approval to have 1 ,, ONE rear facing blue light on fire and ems emergency vehicles including chiefs. the coppers got that approval a year or two ago.

The law states as long as its mixed with some red you can have as much blue as you want.
 
philyumpshus said:
I'm pretty sure you can have more than one blue light, it just needs to be in conjunction with red lights. They should do what badge22 suggested and give us blue lighters sirens.

Or at least let you use air horns and white mixed with the blue like in NJ.
 
NYC is a completely different animal from NYS. For years, it seems that agencies in NYC run to the beat of a different drummer. I DO believe... somewhere, there is a sort of an exemption for Cities (locations that qualify as a city based on a minimum population) that can make their own laws that may be different from the state it is in itself, because it is "it's own entity"...


Or something like that...
 
Bigredinstalls said:
Like this? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1G8wTjB--Q


I know that in Professional commercial lighting, Blue and amber create a kind've dirty brown color. As for why the amber LED's look still yellow through a blue filter... I'm not at all sure.

Commercial lighting generally uses gells over a white light, this is an Amber LED (think wavelegnth) thru a blue lens, not as bright as going thru a clear or even an amber lens, but it will still be Amber. Same thing for a red LED thru an Amber or blue lens, it will still be red, just not as bright as thru a clear or red lens.
 
Doug said:
In watching Counterterror NYC last night, I noticed a surprising amount of blue to the front of several NYPD vehicles. Is this limited to NYPD, or law enforcement in general in NY?

Most of the vehicles you saw in the show with forward facing blue were actually US Secret Service vehicles. Some Chiefs and Comissioners run r/w/b to the front.
 
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