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pdk9
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It's not a bad setup....the V-series on the sides of the PB with their typical raider setup will give some nice front warning (although I would mount the AS124 the right way up and beneath the raiders).
Actually, I think the chargers are overall better for highway patrol than the NGPI Utilities, except in NorCal (where they could def use the SUV in the snow). I just wish CHP put more reflective striping on their vehicles, especially to the rear (like FHP).....I mean, even ghost reflective stripes (if they wanna maintain the all white look) would be nice for increasing the vis of the vehicle at night
Actually, I think the chargers are overall better for highway patrol than the NGPI Utilities, except in NorCal (where they could def use the SUV in the snow). I just wish CHP put more reflective striping on their vehicles, especially to the rear (like FHP).....I mean, even ghost reflective stripes (if they wanna maintain the all white look) would be nice for increasing the vis of the vehicle at night
StEaLtH2
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im on mobile, but does it look like the lightbar is pitched horribly?....
firebuff17
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I was just noticing the same thing.
APLR in front of the bar may block some of the lightbar and it has a terrible pitch to it. Lighting up the sky directing planes.
APLR in front of the bar may block some of the lightbar and it has a terrible pitch to it. Lighting up the sky directing planes.
Don't they limit all white to their truck enforcement cruisers or have they abandoned black and white?
Hoff
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StEaLtH2
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I would think the factory taillights and or vertex reverse lights must be back there, I can't get over how poorly the angle appears on the bar light. Wouldn't that diminish the effectiveness of the light bar??.. Takedowns signaling for Batman and all. 
Adam 12
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The only vehicle that has been approved by the CHP for patrol is the police interceptor utility this decision was based on total weight capacity. The requirements are the patrol vehicle must be fully equipped with the standard gear (several hundreds pounds worth and be capable of transporting four CHP officers in full tactical gear (plate body armor and patrol rifles) the utility and Tahoe were the only two vehicles capeable of supporting the weight. The Tahoe's higher initial cost and lower miles per gallon made it an easy decision. There are interceptor sedans and chargers in the fleet but they are unmarked and for use by command staff.
Oh and yes all white patrol cars are for commercial motor vehicle enforcement. The all white CMV vehicles are always slick top and unlike the black & white's they don't have the CHP motto on the rear fender and don't say Highway Patrol on the trunk. The chargers in the photos are most likely used for show or exhibition.
PS,
The 2016 utilities will be ordered with the 3.5L Ecoboost V6 instead of the current 3.7L naturally aspirated V6
Oh and yes all white patrol cars are for commercial motor vehicle enforcement. The all white CMV vehicles are always slick top and unlike the black & white's they don't have the CHP motto on the rear fender and don't say Highway Patrol on the trunk. The chargers in the photos are most likely used for show or exhibition.
PS,
The 2016 utilities will be ordered with the 3.5L Ecoboost V6 instead of the current 3.7L naturally aspirated V6
Those MPG assessments are mistaken, the Tahoe 2WD PPV, 4WD PPV and 4X4 SSV all get better MPG than the NGPI Utility with either available powertrain
lafd55
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I like the v series 500s in Raider housings, surprised they didn't just use them on the interior of the pushbumper as well.
Adam 12
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Ok what does NGPI stand for. I've been referring to the Ford Police Interceptor Utility AKA PIU.
On a slow day my PIU gets around 18.5 city 22 highway. What are the numbers on the Tahoe? And yes I'm clearly a bit biased toward the PIU.
On a slow day my PIU gets around 18.5 city 22 highway. What are the numbers on the Tahoe? And yes I'm clearly a bit biased toward the PIU.
Someone apparently has banned the use of the word "new" or otherwise removed it from the English language, and replaced it with "Next Generation" which is what that NGPI means: Next Generation Police Interceptor.
Published MPG figures: Tahoe 2WD PPV 16/23, 4WD PPV 16/22, 4X4 SSV 16/22. NGPI Utility 3.7 16/21, EcoBoost 15/20.
Adam 12
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Hum. I had no idea that the mileage was so close between the big V8 in the Tahoe and the 3.7l / 3.5 turbo V6 in the PIU AKA NGPIU
Saw this on CHPs FB page. This vehicle is for testing purposes and was displayed at the academy.
Until the MPG figures were published by Ford and GM I expected the Intercepter Utility to have the fuel efficiency edge over the Tahoe due to it's lighter curb weight and smaller engine, I was shocked to see the opposite
pdk9
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That's crazy to require standard patrol vehicles to be able to carry a payload of up to 4 fully-decked-out officers for the unlikely, rare event that they might load up the units that much; that's just not practical IMO. They should also take into consideration vehicle maintenance, speeds, and resale value. My city's PD tested all the PPV/SSV-type vehicles to replace the CVPI, and they switched from the caprice (initial choice) to the Tahoe b/c it only cost them $800 more, provided more space and officer comfort, & bad a substantially higher resale value.
I love driving Tahoe PPVs (if I had to get into a crash in any patrol vehicle, it'd be in a CVPI or Tahoe). I don't know how the official crash test ratings compare between the NGPI Utility and Tahoe, but I def feel more comfortable in a body on frame.
As for maintenance, I'm admittedly biased and favor the Tahoe over the NGPI family
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I would think the factory taillights and or vertex reverse lights must be back there, I can't get over how poorly the angle appears on the bar light. Wouldn't that diminish the effectiveness of the light bar??.. Takedowns signaling for Batman and all.
In all the videos I've seen of their units not one had vertex's in the back tail lights.
Adam12, when will the 2016's hit the road? I'm looking forward to those; much neater looking than the 13-15's (although they're nice looking). Will these have liberty II's by any change or they still recycling or have extra old versions liberties in stock?
smitty711
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It isn't that crazy. With all the wild fires, mutual aid for protest and civil unrest responses. Each area loads several cars with 4 people and they respond to that area. That way it keeps all the areas with enough cars for normal patrol duties. Nothing wrong if that is the standard they want. They also don't put lights to the rear in taillight housings. It is actually illegal to alter a tailiight/headlight housing. (Read that before and trying to find the law again) therefore CHP takes that literally and does not alter them.
Station 3
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Im not a fan of the new type of units....I actually broke the chargers the first 30 seconds they gave me the keys to one as soon as i stepped in i broke the entire plastic floor board thingy next to the door the thing is like 2 feet long and i completely broke it off with my big Taco feet....... they are fast tho but they suck for County patrol they are more for the road and city boys not county....I call our chargers and the officers that drive them the Rainbow butterfly guys because they are usually behind a desk and just drive the cars home and never actually do any policing... Give me a Truck a tahoe or a vic and im happy maybe also a Ford utility.
PTRJason
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Spoke to someone in CHP fleet. According to that word, they are not ordering any more PIU. SO I doubt any 2016+ will ever fly the CHP colors.
Word is that they have been having nothing but issues with them. Brakes, transmissions, electronics. I guess there is also an issue with their low-band VHF radios frying a sensor, and Ford cant find the issue, then said that it is not their problem as it is the aftermarket equipment that is causing the problem.
Word is when Dodge got wind of the issues CHP was having, they came to them wanting to know what they needed to do to have a chance. CHP told them, so apparently the new Charger is built, in part for CHP for their specifications.
They still use, and order Expeditions and Durangos for Mountain and Desert areas that need 4x4.
And they would put a HLF on the cars in a heartbeat if they could, so maybe they will be able to go back to them now.
And from speaking to several CHP officers, they do not have EcoBoost units.
I am 85% sure that once the current fleet is retired they will go to Chargers, or something else by then.
Maybe Ford fixed the issues with the 2016 versions, but not sure. But I love the look of them with CHP colors, and would love to see a 2016.
My department had a transfer case blow on a 2014 with less then 25k on the clock.
Word is that they have been having nothing but issues with them. Brakes, transmissions, electronics. I guess there is also an issue with their low-band VHF radios frying a sensor, and Ford cant find the issue, then said that it is not their problem as it is the aftermarket equipment that is causing the problem.
Word is when Dodge got wind of the issues CHP was having, they came to them wanting to know what they needed to do to have a chance. CHP told them, so apparently the new Charger is built, in part for CHP for their specifications.
They still use, and order Expeditions and Durangos for Mountain and Desert areas that need 4x4.
And they would put a HLF on the cars in a heartbeat if they could, so maybe they will be able to go back to them now.
And from speaking to several CHP officers, they do not have EcoBoost units.
I am 85% sure that once the current fleet is retired they will go to Chargers, or something else by then.
Maybe Ford fixed the issues with the 2016 versions, but not sure. But I love the look of them with CHP colors, and would love to see a 2016.
My department had a transfer case blow on a 2014 with less then 25k on the clock.
...and they think Dodge is going to be any better? Okay, good luck to them. If you go over board on electronics like CHP does and push a dumpy V6 engine like a trooper would I wouldn't expect anything but problems. We had dodges and of course they sucked. We blew through so much money on them. We'd stick with Caprice but waiting for things from Australia isn't acceptable so we are switching over to the PIU and have had no problems. Just getting 2016's on the road this year.
fireman616wfd
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I cant help but to scratch my head at who comes up with their lighting concepts. Go ahead and turn the raiders forward facing since you are using the V-Series on the sides.. then the speaker mounted on its side and the lightbar tilt. Whatever...... nothing surprises me with their installs.
SafetyLighting
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A twitter post by @CHPMarin: 2016 Dodge Charger on display at the CHP Academy today. This will be the next CHP patrol sedan.
PTRJason
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StEaLtH2
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