City gas company 2012 Chevrolet 1500 truck

fleetcomm

Member
Sep 2, 2011
717
south of nowhere
Code 3 covert H2 remote siren


Code 3 speaker


(3) XT602 RED


(2) XT3 RED/White


(2) XT3 RED


(6) HIDE-A-BLAST 6 PACK


HG2 SIDE LIGHTS


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fleetcomm

Member
Sep 2, 2011
717
south of nowhere
cbpdogboy said:
I have never heard of a gas company having the authority to run code...

Me neither.
 

fleetcomm

Member
Sep 2, 2011
717
south of nowhere
that is what the city wanted installed.
 

strobecrazy

Member
Apr 27, 2011
923
GA,ATL
cbpdogboy said:
I have never heard of a gas company having the authority to run code...

Atlanta gas light has trucks running red but haven't heard a siren yet. (Which is odd, in GA if you are running red you have to have a siren.)


On the other hand, the install looks good. Would have liked to seen a R/W "X" pattern with the rear LAWs.
 

Cam

Member
May 20, 2010
247
MO
Until very recently our local utility company ran red on their gas emergency trucks and electric trouble(after hours/emergency) trucks. Gas construction, electric line trucks and water trucks all ran amber. Gas used Code 3 LP6000 with red on the outside on one switch and amber inners on another, at least some had sirens but I I only think of one time I've ever seen them use one. Electric trouble trucks ran all red strobe beacons with no siren that I ever saw.


About a year ago they started using FedSig Highlighters LED in a odd set up(I think). They are blue to the front with white in the center and blue to the rear and red in the center. These are going on everything, gas, water, electric. They also use FedSig QuadraFlares in red and blue to the rear on large trucks and small "TIR3" like lights in amber to the front.


I think one reason for this is the way our states Move Over law is written in which if you don't have red and/or blue lights you aren't covered.
 

RL1

Member
May 20, 2010
1,650
Ga
Some companies here in S GA have red lights on a few trucks in case there is a line cut by an accident or a fire near a line and people's lives are in danger. They don't run code to regular service calls
 

lafd55

Member
May 27, 2010
2,393
New York, USA
I have seen ConEd emergency trucks that are all RED and have in big letters "Emergency" on the sides front and back, but no red lights/sirens.
 

kitn1mcc

Member
May 24, 2010
2,571
Old lyme ct
all our trucks are all amber. Both the gas and electric side. some towns want faster than 15 to 30 mins reponce times. we are like ohh well.
 

jph2

Member
Apr 21, 2012
2,122
USA Michigan
Utility and road commission trucks with emergency colors (red in MI) don't sit well with me. If you ask me, it confuses the public and those service vehicles are not responding to an emergency. Even the gas and electric response vehicles don't get there all that fast to begin with, so an extra few minutes is not likely to make any significant difference. FD is already chilling on the downed line anyway and has a shut-off tool for gas. :(
 

fleetcomm

Member
Sep 2, 2011
717
south of nowhere
When they picked it up I found out that it is the department heads vehicle and he runs code to any gas line that has been broken so he can shut it off that section as soon as possible.
 

linemanjas

Member
May 26, 2010
115
Layton, Utah
jph2 said:
Utility and road commission trucks with emergency colors (red in MI) don't sit well with me. If you ask me, it confuses the public and those service vehicles are not responding to an emergency. Even the gas and electric response vehicles don't get there all that fast to begin with, so an extra few minutes is not likely to make any significant difference. FD is already chilling on the downed line anyway and has a shut-off tool for gas. :(

I'm a trouble shooter (Lineman) for Rocky Mountain Power here in northern Utah. We cover nine cities from our shop with over 150,000 customers. I get calls all the time to "expedite" to a call from the batallion chief or OIC at the scene. We don't run code and only have amber and white lights on our trucks. None the Less, some of the F.D.'s respect the wires and other departments don't, some guys have had some dumb luck in not going home in a pine box. And while it doesn't happen often, there are times when the circuit wont trip and people are trapped, where every second counts.


Here's my truck:


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mjMIff

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Jun 2, 2010
296
Mid-Michigan
I always thought utilities should have an emergency response team. I can't think of how many times it would had benefited us. Glad to see some locals appreciate this idea....


We have had gas trucks and excavating equipment police escorted on a 20+ hour site, but to do that every time there is a house fire or an energized scene would be impractical.
 

kitn1mcc

Member
May 24, 2010
2,571
Old lyme ct
fleetcomm said:
When they picked it up I found out that it is the department heads vehicle and he runs code to any gas line that has been broken so he can shut it off that section as soon as possible.

wonder how the union feels about this
 

kitn1mcc

Member
May 24, 2010
2,571
Old lyme ct
they put white lights on one of the new trucks at work. i went up to the garage and reminded them that in ct white is no permitted on utility company trucks
 

MPD 818

Member
May 25, 2010
1,317
Murfreesboro TN
kitn1mcc said:
wonder how the union feels about this

There is no exception in the TN Code for gas trucks or other utility vehicles. Install looks good, but sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
 

slash9dotnet

Member
Feb 2, 2012
491
Conneaut, Ohio
kitn1mcc said:
wonder how the union feels about this

As a member of the fire service or a member of the general public in the area of a broken gas line, I would care less how the union feels and would be more concerned with shutting off the line in a timely fashion.


But that's just me - I'm also a member of a union for the railroad, but I can see how some unions can be helpful or more of a pain in the ass.
 

STT Installer

Member
May 28, 2010
460
Idaho
I work for a rather large CATV utility in Idaho. Our trucks are equipped with Whelen 2012 strobe beacons in amber - thats it. On call shifts for emergency response are usually every 7 weeks for a week of 24/7 call out. It's not uncommon to have a full 2 hours of drive time to response to a car vs pole crash - our service area is roughly 4500 sq miles. Gas company here is starting to just install HLFs on their emergency response vans and nothing else - kinda odd but whatever.


Honestly I see no benefit to running code here - my truck struggles to make the speed limit as it is LOL.


In a state that allows vollies, funeral escorts and tow trucks all to use red lights, the motoring public is pretty well detuned.


I was out on an emergency locate for a broken gas main (4" poly trunk) last week and ran in to one of the newer gas company trucks - looked like an Able2 low profile LED beacon on the center of the BrandFX bed insert and LX4-style split heads in the 4 corners front/rear... In true split fail fashion. All amber, all rather effective. Beat the dismal 10 watt HAWS in the CVPI the city PD had blocking one of the streets lol.


*note* our CATV lines when down still carry 90 volts AC and tend to HURT when you touch it lol. Heaven forbid a fuse in an amplifier or the circuit breaker in the power supply doesn't trip, it sucks to be the path to ground for the full 15 amps or more of plant power :)
 

kitn1mcc

Member
May 24, 2010
2,571
Old lyme ct
the union part was the supervisor doing the work. were i work at the supervisor have to wait for a qualified person.
 

Cam

Member
May 20, 2010
247
MO
kitn1mcc said:
the union part was the supervisor doing the work. were i work at the supervisor have to wait for a qualified person.

Umm, lets hope the gas department isn't union then.
 

STT Installer

Member
May 28, 2010
460
Idaho
Cam said:
Umm, lets hope the gas department isn't union then.
Only the phone company is union here; the other three utilities are self determination employers.


Based on the phone company's experience, the union continues to do everything they can to help the competition LOL.


I double checked thru my phone from last fire season, the power company has a number of type 6 brush trucks they use to patrol/mop up on pole lines after wildland fires, however, those appeared to have amber lights only.
 

delcofirecop

Member
Jul 22, 2012
232
usa pa
here our gas and electric are on company they respond 24-7 usually within they hour they run all amber verizon and catv are usually within the hour as well they run all amber as welco the local gas/electric has dedicated on the road emergency crews at night. idk about catv and i was told verizon just calls in workers from home with take home trucks.
 

badge22

Member
Aug 14, 2010
934
MI, United States
Nice set-up, however, this is just one more vehicle that has no need for a slick-top lighting package.
 

pdk9

Member
May 26, 2010
3,834
New York & Florida
Front LAWs are kinda useless (they're easily drowned out) IMO, but otherwise it's a nice install, and I like how the whole HG2 flashes at once to give a large footprint (I just would chosen a slightly slower pattern personally). To be honest, I was really confused when I started to read the OP, and was totally confused when I saw siren for a gas company truck. Not to say that I don't think some utility vehicles that respond to emergency calls (ie power shut downs at incidents, wires down, etc) shouldn't have them, but I have never seen a utility co vehicle with anything other than amber/clear, let alone a siren. Growing up in NYC, I saw the ConEd emergeny trucks at 10-75's with FDNY but they never had anything other than amber perimeter warning. To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem seeing a few designated utility co vehicles (not all of them) with sirens, provided that the particular employees have training such as EVOC and only use them when responding to true emergencies where the IC needs an expedited response; at the same time, I could think of a few reasons why I'd be reluctant to support them having sirens lol (it's one of those times where I'm at a standstill/can't completely make up my my mind how I feel about it.). Anyways, again it's a nice install, and at least it's a city agency, and not some random, private co. that took it upon themselves to get lights/sirens.
 
Dec 4, 2011
1,126
US NC
I work for the gas company in my area. We have a single clear/amber LED or strobe beacon on the trucks, and that's it. While I think we could use a little more lighting, I see absolutley no need for any utility truck to be running code to anything.
 

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