Looks like someone left an MX7000 in the oven for a bit. Looks like it could have potential though........SafetyLighting said:
Code 3 Solex anyone else seen this?
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LED138 said:
More like an Excalibur...
Or a reverse 360 (isn't that a skateboard trick or something?) as it appears to stick out a little in the middle front, as opposed to large bulbous blisters on the ends. (I like 360s, just sayin')
Outsider said:
It the up close photo taken from one of the lightbars on that display?? The one that says made in Taiwan??
Jamey@NNE said:
Exactly.......Just when he thought he knew everything turns out he knows very little...
Jamey@NNE said:
Do they make them here, or do they import the led light heads and/or electronics from Taiwan and assemble them in the US? Below is a picture of a code3 tricore bar being assembled.
I'm not arguing the merit of your comment, but it would great to learn more about how code3 does things. code3 does source a lot of their led products from Taiwan.
For example, Federal Signal gets their PCB boards from China, and then adds everything else in the US.
http://elightbars.org/forums/f13/small-dual-color-lights-individual-color-activation-33975/#post410619
Im not 100% on that. I think some are here and some not. The fedsig rep here still will get heated and argue with you if you tell him the micropulse is foreign product rebranded.
bluestinger90 said:Do they make them here, or do they import the led light heads and/or electronics from Taiwan and assemble them in the US? Below is a picture of a code3 tricore bar being assembled.
I'm not arguing the merit of your comment, but it would great to learn more about how code3 does things. code3 does source a lot of their led products from Taiwan.
For example, Federal Signal gets their PCB boards from China, and then adds everything else in the US.
http://elightbars.org/forums/f13/small-dual-color-lights-individual-color-activation-33975/#post410619
It is my understanding that none of the super LED's are made in the USA. The product has to be something like 95% made here to be "made/manufactured in America". The XT series of lights are known to be made overseas and are priced as such. The bars are made here and also priced as such. The bar frames, wiring, lenses, electronics, feet, cables etc are all made/manufactured here..
firefighter_2000 said:Reminds me of the probe from the War of the Worlds tripod
YES!!! Exactly! I knew that I knew that thing from somewhere.
emtanderson51 said:
The minimum is 85%, and when I was working for the Whelen rep, we actually spoke to the guys in Taiwan who supplied most of the diodes and PCB assemblies for Code 3, SOS, SoundOff, etc.
Thus far, Whelen is the only company that gets 99% of its product components domestically (the only thing they can't get is the magnets for their speakers, and everyone has to get those from China because, well, China is the only place with Neodymium ferrite ore).
Jamey@NNE said:
He needs to read the box. They are Juluen lights re-branded. FedSig doesn't do anything to them.
leftcoastmark said:
Besides add to the price tag it seems. I wonder how many micropulses they sell compared to the ms6.
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factorone33 said:
:crazy:
Other people here have mentioned that Tomar and Star/SVP do everything in house for their led assemblies, except for diodes, which I don't think anyone makes in the US. That would probably help explain why Tomar and Star/SVP are more expensive then everyone else.
I don't know about the other companies and how they do things. I'm not trying to create a made in the USA shit storm thread about it. A USA shit storm will take 3-4 weeks by boat from China.
Based upon our talks with Tomar, I understand why you mention them. However, if you compare Star/SVP products to that of Whelen, Code 3, and Federal Signal then I'm not sure I see the validity in your statement. Take the DLX6 SVP DLX6 Versa Star LightheadVs Ion SIRENNET.COM - Whelen ION Series Super-LED Light. We commonly sell the DLX6 for a $4.00 under the Ion. Additionally we often run sales on them to lower the price point.bluestinger90 said:
The problem you run into is that you often have greedy dealers or dealers that have more loyalty to other brands. Often times those other brands put pressure on the dealers to show their brand in a better light. Take Sirennet for instance, we all know they are one of the leading sellers in Whelen Equipment. We never see them mention or feature anything from SVP do we? Did you even know they carried it? Well they do. SIRENNET.COM - Star/SVP VersaStar DLX6 LED Warning Light
While researching brands, we often noticed this was an issue.
Granted, some of our SVP prices on our site are currently higher than they were, but we are still recovering from an ELB Member impersonating Star personnel via e-mail into forcing our prices higher to be inline with his. We hope to have all our prices restored shortly and then you can truly see what a great value the Star/SVP line-up truly is. They are also a great family oriented company.
The biggest issue with companies like Star/SVP and Tomar is they don't get their information out there. Feniex is also a great company but they have a ton of chatter. I believe Mr.Marcson has even made very informative post as to the rate each manufactured is mentioned. Feniex has a very sexy line-up and were very cleverly brought into the market place which is probably one of the reasons they get mentioned so much here on ELB.
It does seem to amaze me though how much manufacturers can be like politicians in the midst of a political campaign though. The references above of calling Taiwan while a rep for a manufacturer kind of prove that.
As far as Code 3 goes, it has been proven that they have had products made overseas. So what? The overwhelming majority of their products are American Made. They have never hidden that they were foreign built as they have properly labeled each product made overseas. We do not sell Code 3 products and quite frankly, I'm not sure if I like their products or not but I'm not sure why people try to make it seem as though they are lying. This is not like Led Outfitters/Damega with misleading advertising that you are purchasing products "Proudly made in the USA". Not to mention the company itself is American owned.
As far as these bars go, they will probably grow on people as we get accustomed to them. New isn't always accepted at first. Time will tell. It is getting very hard for companies to come up with anything new anymore. Good luck to Code 3 with their new bar.
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OutletPSE said:
They carry lots of star/svp products, and they mention them frequently. It's just rebranded as sirennet products. I think their youtube channel has a tendency to focus on new items, and Whelen is usually releasing something new.
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bluestinger90 said:
The whole point of my post was not that they didn't have them, but was that Star/SVP is fairly cheap comparatively. I wanted to show that they are much more affordable than your claim of them being so much more expensive.
bluestinger90 said:
I know for a fact that Whelen sources all of its diodes from North Carolina and/or Indiana, and this is partially the reason why their stuff is so much more expensive than anyone else.
My bad, I'm not trying to either, so I'll end my contributions to this portion of the thread here.
Regarding the Code 3 bar, all I can say to the design is "blegh". But if it's functional and people use it, then who am I to judge?
I don't like it but, there will be departments that buy it and if it works for them great. The lightbar market is a very competive and all the manufactures are looking for an edge in the market place and as for made in america I have been to the factory and they are assembled in america. The boxes you see in front of the lady putting the lightbar togeather are lightheads that are made outside of america.
New from Code 3? Don't know if anyone else has seen or heard anything. Doesn't look all that exciting to me. Wouldn't mind having a speaker to go on a bar like that though.
http://code3pse.com/products/product_info/Fire/Lightbars/C_SOLEX#
http://code3pse.com/products/product_info/Fire/Lightbars/C_SOLEX#
Ok. I looked and the only thing I could find was code 3 revealing something at IACP or something and couldn't tell what it was.
twodogs603 said:
Fixed that for you. That is a horrible looking bar and the "hump" can't be good for aerodynamics. I'll pass thanks.
dear code 3,
the whole siren in lightbar idea was fazed out 10+ years ago..please try to catch up to the current time.
thanks
the whole siren in lightbar idea was fazed out 10+ years ago..please try to catch up to the current time.
thanks
firefighter31 said:
But this is a "powerful new option, a second level that allows for a 100-watt speaker with no loss of rear warning light capability." Wow! What will they think of next?
Ok. Here is a sneak peek video Code 3 put out. I cant even see the bar until its right next to the camera.
Give me a single rotating beacon anyday.
Give me a single rotating beacon anyday.
NPS Ranger said:But this is a "powerful new option, a second level that allows for a 100-watt speaker with no loss of rear warning light capability." Wow! What will they think of next?
I think I read a similar sentence in one of the C3 brochures from the mid 90s. I believe it was how the traffic director could now mount under the lightbar and you could sensationally get both a rotator signal with a halogen traffic director !!
What will they think of next? Maybe Diodes replacing alley lights? I always thought that was a good idea. Anyone seen this done (yet)?
Ugly as hell
Agreed. Mounting speakers on the roof has gone the way of riding on the running boards. I'd gladly look one over if Code 3 wanted, but I can't say I'm impressed by speakers being offered in a roof mount lightbar.firefighter31 said:
bluestinger90 said:I think this is it. It's called the Solex. It's different.
A non linear bar would have been a winner. This is just strange. Everyone is going low profile, and they release a hunch back bar.
Taken from the code3 website;
- Second level that allows for additional massive takedown lighting, additional flashing or steady burn warning lights, a 100-watt speaker with no loss of rear warning light capability, traffic emitters, and other potential warning or add-on devices.
- Aerodynamic shape and styling maximize vehicle performance as well as matches the contours of today's and tomorrow's vehicles
- Single or multicolor linear collimated LED lightheads are designed for usage with a central controller board or can flash independently, depending on your requirements
- Aluminum frame and lighthead mounting platform are designed for heavy duty use and vibration, exceeding the requirements for SAE, CA T13 or European testing standards.
- Lens caps protect internal components from UV degradation, easily shed water, ice or snow and provide aerodynamic shape
- Thick, heavy duty lower lenses are designed for exceptional wear life
Design Features
Full featured and customizable lightbar with 9-Up LED single color or 18-Up LED multicolor (coming soon) lightheads
- Takedown and alley lights can be single or multicolor
- Central controller driven lightheads or independent flashing lightheads
- Red, Blue, Amber, or White LEDs
- Black lens caps standard
- Dimming mode
[*]47" or 53" length
[*]Average height is 2.5" (63.5 mm), Max height 3.9" (99 mm)
[*]12 Volt
[*]Meets all applicable SAE, NFPA, California Title 13 and ECE65 specifications when properly configured
[*]5-Year Warranty on LED modules
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arsenal10 said:
The reason the first car didnt stop was because the driver wouldnt have noticed the lights were actually on.