Code 3 XL9000 Newton Police

LRGJr72

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May 29, 2010
790
Detroit, Michigan
I've always wondered what the rationale was for only allowing red lights when rear-facing on police vehicles. The same with blue on all emergency vehicles in New York State.
 

stansdds

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May 25, 2010
3,540
U.S.A., Virginia
Very, very nice bar.

But isn´t it a XL9000 because of the sealed beams.
I thought XL5000 is with the single rotators.
Code 3 XL 5000 had sealed beam rotators.
Code 3 XL 9000 had sealed beam rotators, but the outboard rotators had 3 bulbs instead of 2.
Force 4 XL5000 had independently driven revolving reflectors.

What confuses people on the models is that Public Safety Equipment Co. did not begin using the Force 4 name to differentiate between the sealed beam and the rotating reflector versions until 1986. So for a while you could see either types of rotating lights in bars marked Code 3.
 

JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
10,971
Northwest Ohio
Code 3 XL 5000 had sealed beam rotators.
Code 3 XL 9000 had sealed beam rotators, but the outboard rotators had 3 bulbs instead of 2.
Force 4 XL5000 had independently driven revolving reflectors.

What confuses people on the models is that Public Safety Equipment Co. did not begin using the Force 4 name to differentiate between the sealed beam and the rotating reflector versions until 1986. So for a while you could see either types of rotating lights in bars marked Code 3.


Good point. It's easiest to ignore the force 4 term entirely since it applied to the whole halogen lightbar line up. The I simply use XL series, then designate 9000 for sealed beams, and 5000 for independent rotators. This is an oversimplification of course, but it's just easiest while still descriptive. I do the same with the Whelen 8000, 80h, and 90h series. Multiple model numbers and/or terms exist within the lines, but I drop it to the base model number to make the distinction between internal style of bar.


Here is the "XL line" in 1979 and 1993/94.
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Jun 18, 2013
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PA
interesting.. I've never heard anyone call a sealed beam XL a 5000 series but you learn something new every day!
 

stansdds

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May 25, 2010
3,540
U.S.A., Virginia
:oops: OOPS! My mistake and this is what happens when I do not check my references. PSE did introduce the Force 4 name in 1982 to differentiate the two basic production lines, but XL9000 used sealed beams in the rotating assemblies. The XL5000 was always the model number for independently driven rotating reflector models. My apologies for adding to the confusion. :oops:
 

2004p71

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Aug 27, 2010
367
canada
I once had a ''boston'' lightbar for a 1990 vic before it became mine (avatar) The previous owner wanted a more traditional red and blue set-up so I end up buying more domes and switching some over... if I knew back then lol...

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anyways yours looks awsome :)
 
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JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
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Northwest Ohio
:oops: OOPS! My mistake and this is what happens when I do not check my references. PSE did introduce the Force 4 name in 1982 to differentiate the two basic production lines, but XL9000 used sealed beams in the rotating assemblies. The XL5000 was always the model number for independently driven rotating reflector models. My apologies for adding to the confusion. :oops:

Simple terms are:
XL=entire diamond shaped line
XL9000=sealed beams
XL5000=Independent rotators
 

toon80

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May 24, 2010
2,489
Laval, Canada
Hillrock, I seem to recall from the older Elightbar Forums that you had (almost?) the full line of Boston XL, both sealed beams and parabolic. If so, please share them again.
 

894

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Jul 14, 2014
1,036
North Central US
OK. Maybe I'm just not seeing something here but does this unit have forward-facing Stingers or rearward, behind the cut-outs? Or, is it just takedowns and rear flashers?
 

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