Falcon Furry Emergency Dash/Deck Light

[JohnMarcson]

Product Name:Falcon Furry Emergency Dash/Deck Light


Manufacturer: LED Equipped (LEDQ)


Model Number: A-1086


Link to manufacturer: LED Equipped


Review Type: Lab based function and form only


Product Description: LED full-sized lightbar


Intended Usage or Market: Volunteer


Item Description:


First, “Furry” is not a typo on my part. I assume it's a mistranslation of “Fury”. This is a dash/deck light that contains four six head “linear” LEDs. There is push button pattern switch and a cigar plug with on/off switch.

• Durability/Feel/Appearance: It's not printed on the product itself thank goodness, but the bad translation of “Fury” into “Furry” in the literature was a big red flag to me. A bad translation on product or literature usually translates to poor quality control. The housing is metal and the cord of standard gauge. The pattern button felt loose and of poor quality, but still continued to function after being pressed five hundred times. The light came with a usable mounting bracket and uses sliding bolts in a carriage at the rear. The overall impression was acceptable quality of assembly from an exterior examination. 6
  
  
  
  
  Performance: I had trouble figuring out how many flash patterns there were because many of them flashed the the light together and I think repeated in the list. There are at least five very usable patterns though. Usually the light retained its pattern when shut off. Twice out of the hundred or so times I activated it it defaulted to a different pattern. It is possible I shut the unit down too soon after setting a pattern. I liked that the lightheads were never split or flashed in a non grouped pattern. The light shows up well enough to be visible in sun at five hundred feet, and was comparable to other similar sized linear dash lights. The LED heads themselves are slightly shorter than other linear heads I am used too, but their footprint when on is acceptable for a dash light in my opinion. The light is not SAE tested, which is a deal breaker for many. Overall, the unit did well. If not for the lack of SAE testing, it would be a usable deck light for at least secondary warning. 7
  
  
  
  
  Features: The light has an on off switch on the cigar plug and a pattern button on the housing. The flash shield is a bit small to be able to cut down well for a super slope windshield, but is trim-able at least. The pattern list may leave some wanting to trade some simultaneous patterns for some cycling patterns or more alternating patterns. The size of the light, four heads, was unwieldy as a dash light, but too small for rear deck. Other sizes are available with the same heads though. Bottom line, it delivers what it promises (except fur). 6
  
  
  
  
  Innovation: I'm going to grade this a NA. This is another take on an existing idea, and shouldn't be scored on innovation as it makes no attempt to do so by it's very nature.
  

• Price: The only pricing listed is “call or email for price”. I won't count that against this item yet because it was just added to their store. I will say that unless this comes in significantly under price of a name brand, I can;t see a reason to use it. If it does save me 35% or similar it might be a viable budget option. Update- The price is $129.99, which for a four head model isn't bad. 7
  
  
• Overall: I wasn't able to score this light on innovation or price. The bad translation in the literature was a turnoff. The light itself delivers a usable budget range interior light provided the price is right and SAE certification occurs. 6.5 Acceptable, with some major drawbacks.
  
  
  Rating (1= Lowest Score & 10= Highest Score)
  
  
• Durability/Feel/Appearance: 6
  
  
• Performance: 7
  
  
• Features: 6
  
  
• Innovation: na
  
  
• Price: 7
  
  
• Overall 6.5 Acceptable, with some major drawbacks.
  
  
  
  

 

[foxtrot5]

Just making sure I undestand you when you talk about the flash patterns.


The lights are always flashed


1 2 - -


- - 3 4


or


1 2 3 4


- - - -


and never


1 - 3 -


- 2 - 4


And the lightheads themselves are never split? I think some major manufactures could take some ideas from this.

 

[Ledequipped]

Product Name:Falcon Furry Emergency Dash/Deck Light
Manufacturer: LED Equipped (LEDQ)


Model Number: A-1086


Link to manufacturer: LED Equipped


Review Type: Lab based function and form only


Product Description: LED full-sized lightbar


Intended Usage or Market: Volunteer


Item Description:


First, “Furry” is not a typo on my part. I assume it's a mistranslation of “Fury”. This is a dash/deck light that contains four six head “linear” LEDs. There is push button pattern switch and a cigar plug with on/off switch.

• Durability/Feel/Appearance: It's not printed on the product itself thank goodness, but the bad translation of “Fury” into “Furry” in the literature was a big red flag to me. A bad translation on product or literature usually translates to poor quality control. The housing is metal and the cord of standard gauge. The pattern button felt loose and of poor quality, but still continued to function after being pressed five hundred times. The light came with a usable mounting bracket and uses sliding bolts in a carriage at the rear. The overall impression was acceptable quality of assembly from an exterior examination. 6
  
  
  
  
  Performance: I had trouble figuring out how many flash patterns there were because many of them flashed the the light together and I think repeated in the list. There are at least five very usable patterns though. Usually the light retained its pattern when shut off. Twice out of the hundred or so times I activated it it defaulted to a different pattern. It is possible I shut the unit down too soon after setting a pattern. I liked that the lightheads were never split or flashed in a non grouped pattern. The light shows up well enough to be visible in sun at five hundred feet, and was comparable to other similar sized linear dash lights. The LED heads themselves are slightly shorter than other linear heads I am used too, but their footprint when on is acceptable for a dash light in my opinion. The light is not SAE tested, which is a deal breaker for many. Overall, the unit did well. If not for the lack of SAE testing, it would be a usable deck light for at least secondary warning. 7
  
  
  
  
  Features: The light has an on off switch on the cigar plug and a pattern button on the housing. The flash shield is a bit small to be able to cut down well for a super slope windshield, but is trim-able at least. The pattern list may leave some wanting to trade some simultaneous patterns for some cycling patterns or more alternating patterns. The size of the light, four heads, was unwieldy as a dash light, but too small for rear deck. Other sizes are available with the same heads though. Bottom line, it delivers what it promises (except fur). 6
  
  
  
  
  Innovation: I'm going to grade this a NA. This is another take on an existing idea, and shouldn't be scored on innovation as it makes no attempt to do so by it's very nature.
  

[*]Price: The only pricing listed is “call or email for price”. I won't count that against this item yet because it was just added to their store. I will say that unless this comes in significantly under price of a name brand, I can;t see a reason to use it. If it does save me 35% or similar it might be a viable budget option.


[*]Overall: I wasn't able to score this light on innovation or price. The bad translation in the literature was a turnoff. The light itself delivers a usable budget range interior light provided the price is right and SAE certification occurs. 6


Rating (1= Lowest Score & 10= Highest Score)


[*]Durability/Feel/Appearance: 6


[*]Performance: 7


[*]Features: 6


[*]Innovation: na


[*]Price: na


[*]Overall 6


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For Wholesale price please contact me and i will be glad to assist

 

[JohnMarcson]

Just making sure I undestand you when you talk about the flash patterns.

The lights are always flashed


1 2 - -


- - 3 4


or


1 2 3 4


- - - -


and never


1 - 3 -


- 2 - 4


And the lightheads themselves are never split? I think some major manufactures could take some ideas from this.

It does 1/2 against 3/4 and all 4 together only.


Your options are flashing the left two heads against the right two, or all four simultaneously. There is no option to split the heads themselves or flash them outside of their pairs. This is basically a two head light the way they are grouped, which isn't that big a deal to me. With the size of the heads and the color grouping flashing 1 and 3 against 2 and 4 would be a purple mess.


This light really wasn't bad. These heads are way better suited to this light than they were to being in the lightbar I tested. The lack of SAE cert is my main complaint.

 

[Ledequipped]

It does 1/2 against 3/4 and all 4 together only.


Your options are flashing the left two heads against the right two, or all four simultaneously. There is no option to split the heads themselves or flash them outside of their pairs. This is basically a two head light the way they are grouped, which isn't that big a deal to me. With the size of the heads and the color grouping flashing 1 and 3 against 2 and 4 would be a purple mess.


This light really wasn't bad. These heads are way better suited to this light than they were to being in the lightbar I tested. The lack of SAE cert is my main complaint.

If anyone is interested in this light and requires an SAE rating, please specify and I will get one right away.

 

[FSEP]

If anyone is interested in this light and requires an SAE rating, please specify and I will get one right away.

Would the price increase?

 

[FreshDave04]

If anyone is interested in this light and requires an SAE rating, please specify and I will get one right away.

I believe the point that a number of people are trying to get across is that they should not have to request their individual purchases be SAE certified - the product should automatically come that way. It would be wise to achieve those ratings and/or certifications prior to a customer considering purchasing your products. While not every customer may require SAE certification, it is an industry standard.


Not having a SAE rating can (and has in the past) result in litigation against a public safety department/member for negligence, if the product is used while responding to an emergency event and as a result, being involved in a motor vehicle accident.

 

[Ledequipped]

Would the price increase?

I am looking into costs, but as of now, no

 

[emtanderson51]

I believe the point that a number of people are trying to get across is that they should not have to request their individual purchases be SAE certified - the product should automatically come that way. It would be wise to achieve those ratings and/or certifications prior to a customer considering purchasing your products. While not every customer may require SAE certification, it is an industry standard.

Not having a SAE rating can (and has in the past) result in litigation against a public safety department/member for negligence, if the product is used while responding to an emergency event and as a result, being involved in a motor vehicle accident.

I think the main problem is that everyone is failing to realize that this outfit is a wholesaler. If someone want's the SAE they get it or have this gentleman do it for them. This is not an outrageous practice. You cannot just buy one light from him. It is not what he does nor has he pretended to do so.

 

[badge22]

Why is he disclosing the wholesale price? Now everyone knows what dealers / resellers are paying. :duh:

 

[FreshDave04]

I think the main problem is that everyone is failing to realize that this outfit is a wholesaler. If someone want's the SAE they get it or have this gentleman do it for them. This is not an outrageous practice. You cannot just buy one light from him. It is not what he does nor has he pretended to do so.

Oh, I completely agree and understand your point, Steve. I'm just stating that as an American consumer (and he's trying to sell these products at wholesale to American dealers/distributors), he should look into having the products certified/rated either at the point of manufacture or after they've been imported and he takes possession.


:thumbsup:

 

[Ledequipped]

I think the main problem is that everyone is failing to realize that this outfit is a wholesaler. If someone want's the SAE they get it or have this gentleman do it for them. This is not an outrageous practice. You cannot just buy one light from him. It is not what he does nor has he pretended to do so.

Thank you so much for explaining!!


Just for clarification, we do produce many of our styles according to the SAE standards however receiving the certs takes time. I am willing to work with any customer who will need me to get the certs.


Please see below the following styles that are manufactured according to SAE standards.


A-1010


A-1011


A-1012


A-1015


A-1016


A-1017


A-1023


A-1041


A-1042


A-1043


A-1044


A-1045


A-1046


A-1047


A-1048


A-1049


A-1050


A-1055


A-1056


A-109


A-1135


A-1136


A-1139


A-1140

 

[chief1562]

Thank you so much for explaining!!

Just for clarification, we do produce many of our styles according to the SAE standards however receiving the certs takes time. I am willing to work with any customer who will need me to get the certs.


Please see below the following styles that are manufactured according to SAE standards.


A-1010


A-1011


A-1012


A-1015


A-1016


A-1017


A-1023


A-1041


A-1042


A-1043


A-1044


A-1045


A-1046


A-1047


A-1048


A-1049


A-1050


A-1055


A-1056


A-109


A-1135


A-1136


A-1139


A-1140

But does that mean they have the certification on them? Just because you say they are manufactured according to SAE standards doen't mean it's on the light at time of purchuse.


I'm not putting anything in my car and use it for emergency responce that is not SAE certified can't afford a lawsuit because of poor lighting and not being SAE certified.

 

[Ledequipped]

But does that mean they have the certification on them? Just because you say they are manufactured according to SAE standards doen't mean it's on the light at time of purchuse.
I'm not putting anything in my car and use it for emergency responce that is not SAE certified can't afford a lawsuit because of poor lighting and not being SAE certified.

Hi


I understand however as I mentioned before if one does require a SAE cert I would be glad to get it but the buyer must request it and specify the styles.

 

[Jamey@NNE]

Why make the buyers wait for certs instead of just getting the certs and use them to sell lights?

 

[Ledequipped]

Why make the buyers wait for certs instead of just getting the certs and use them to sell lights?

The reason is not all customers need SAE certs and even the customers who do, are not interested in everything I sell. So it would be a waste of money and time to certify all my products.

 

[Jamey@NNE]

Have you thought that it might help sales as it has bombed your sales here not having it.

 

[Ledequipped]

Have you thought that it might help sales as it has bombed your sales here not having it.

Hi


Thank G-d this site has boosted my sales. People can tell I am here to help and my SAE option does help, you just have to specify.

 

[Firetrux]

The reason is not all customers need SAE certs and even the customers who do, are not interested in everything I sell. So it would be a waste of money and time to certify all my products.

"Where trust and quality meet!" Are you sure?

Have you thought that it might help sales as it has bombed your sales here not having it.

I don't think he grasps that, let alone marketing, customer service, and common business practices...

 

[Jamey@NNE]

Hi

Thank G-d this site has boosted my sales. People can tell I am here to help and my SAE option does help, you just have to specify.

Your not getting it, look past the now and see what you could of had by having the rating.......

 

[calebsheltonmed23]

The SAE rating also makes me feel more comfortable buying an item, knowing it was made to high standards instead of being "built to SAE standards". I can build anything to SAE standards, but it may not pass those certifications. This is why Whelen, Code 3, SOS, etc. already have SAE certifications on their lights...it's a comfort feeling more than anything to most people.

 

[Ledequipped]

The SAE rating also makes me feel more comfortable buying an item, knowing it was made to high standards instead of being "built to SAE standards". I can build anything to SAE standards, but it may not pass those certifications. This is why Whelen, Code 3, SOS, etc. already have SAE certifications on their lights...it's a comfort feeling more than anything to most people.

HI


I appreciate your thoughts and I will SAE certify a good portion of my goods.


Please stay updated and I will inform you when this is done.

 

[Ledequipped]

The SAE rating also makes me feel more comfortable buying an item, knowing it was made to high standards instead of being "built to SAE standards". I can build anything to SAE standards, but it may not pass those certifications. This is why Whelen, Code 3, SOS, etc. already have SAE certifications on their lights...it's a comfort feeling more than anything to most people.

HI


Where might i be able to get my products certified?

 

[Firetrux]

HI


Where might i be able to get my products certified?

JEEZE! One year later you decide you need to ask that?


Isn't this your business? You are not only a wholesaler, but tell us you are the manufacturer of this product and you honest want us to believe you have absolutely no idea how to get items SAE certified???


That comment exudes all sorts of confidence in your company and your products...

 

[Nathan R]

I am temporarily locking this thread.