Ford expedition with feniex t6

[911graphicsandlighting]

Ford expedition light bar replaced with cobra t6 heads

 

[MEVS06]

I still don't understand the need to sneak up on a fire!!!!!

 

[tsquale]

Wow...I have nothing nice to say. :-x

 

[Kd8bao]

on a white vehicle I would have at least color matched the bezels

 

[GPC]

Why would you post this? You have to know what happens by now.

 

[lafd55]

Wow.... What a total FAIL!!!! Why no lightbar? Why all the surface mounts? Why the split heads? Such a waist..... I'm not afraid to put my 2 cents in.

 

[MEVS06]

I just look at the pics, I know when he posts it's a waste of my data to watch the video.....

 

[GPC]

I just look at the pics, I know when he posts it's a waste of my data to watch the video.....

I only watch to see if the vehicle will catch on fire.

 

[calebsheltonmed23]

So you replaced the lightbar with surface mount lights? Making sure I'm reading that correctly. If so, both the installer and whoever wanted to do this with the department needs some serious help. All the money spend on those lights could have bought a good used LED bar, a couple TIR3's in the rear and a HLF. And another slick top fire vehicle....ugh. uke:

 

[Eric1249]

Wow...I have nothing nice to say. :-x

I have to agree. Seems like there wasn't much thought in this install

 

[minig0d]

Uhhhhh........ a single halogen exterior lightbar, bought used for $100, would provide more warning and look 100x better. A used led one would cost half of what was spent and provide 1000x.


Surface mount? Why on earth? Are you advertising for a vehicle acne clinic or providing emergency lighting?

 

[NFD-102]

Wayyyyy tooo many surface mounts.

 

[acala91]

That install with a bunch of small split flashed lights looks wayyyy better than a couple large solid color lights........said no one ever. :hopeless:

 

[Jarred J.]

Humphreys County, TN


theres the county its supporting...

 

[proudfirefighter]

This thread made me so sad.. So much potential, yet so much fail. :Banghead:

 

[GPC]

...

 

[Flashguy]

Is it too soon to move this thread into the ring?

 

[Black Hoe]

You can get a seizure looking at this truck! God awful choice of lightheads and flash patterns!

 

[MEVS06]

I just showed my fiancee the video of this epic fail, I had to watch it. She said "what the hell is that, that is fugly, even a special olympics kid could do a better install than that". I almost spit the tea out of my mouth.... ahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Flashguy]

I almost spit the tea out of my mouth.... ahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

AND by tea, you meant beer...right?

 

[Eric1249]

I just showed my fiancee the video of this epic fail, I had to watch it.

And here I thought I was the only one to make my girlfriend watch these videos. lol

 

[MEVS06]

AND by tea, you meant beer...right?

No beer is for women, Crown is for men!! Lol

 

[proudfirefighter]

No beer is for women, Crown is for men!! Lol

+1000 to this remark.

 

[GPC]

No beer is for women, Crown is for men!! Lol

and a real man never spits out his crown

 

[Flashguy]

and a real man never spits out his crown

Yeah...GPC would rather you swallowed it........awkward. :haha:

 

[GPC]

Yeah...GPC would rather you swallowed it........awkward. :haha:

I should have known that comment was going to turn to this. lol

 

[Camerin]

Let's go ask Grumpy Cat....

 

[MtnMan]

To put it politely, there seems to be general agreement that the effectiveness of this lighting package doesn't live up to the expense and labor that went into it.


So, if this job rolled up to your shop, how would you fix it, short of patching dozens of holes and starting over?


To start, I'd ditch the rocker lights completely. I don't get the whole shin-level lighting concept, and hopefully they can be removed unobtrusively. Same for the hood mounts. That leaves "only" 8 body mount lights. With a slow pattern, keeping the red and white separate, not too bad.


Move the front lights to the outside of the grill. What's the point of hiding them, when everything else is prominently displayed?


Now, the big issue: the complete lack of lighting above waist level. A roof bar is the obvious choice, but if it absolutely, positively has to be a slick top, what to do? I think there might actually be some interior lights, but they barely make it through the tint. Or are those just reflections?


Your thoughts?

 

[proudfirefighter]

To put it politely, there seems to be general agreement that the effectiveness of this lighting package doesn't live up to the expense and labor that went into it.

So, if this job rolled up to your shop, how would you fix it, short of patching dozens of holes and starting over?


To start, I'd ditch the rocker lights completely. I don't get the whole shin-level lighting concept, and hopefully they can be removed unobtrusively. Same for the hood mounts. That leaves "only" 8 body mount lights. With a slow pattern, keeping the red and white separate, not too bad.


Move the front lights to the outside of the grill. What's the point of hiding them, when everything else is prominently displayed?


Now, the big issue: the complete lack of lighting above waist level. A roof bar is the obvious choice, but if it absolutely, positively has to be a slick top, what to do? I think there might actually be some interior lights, but they barely make it through the tint. Or are those just reflections?


Your thoughts?

You also forgot about the hideous mount on the rear lighting.. Please, put in like a warning bar instead of those. It looks terrible. I honestly hate saying that, because I know it must have been hard work installing them.. But ew.


Also, a Vision SLR would look really good on top of that truck.. Lets put something like that up there. not surface mounting t-6s everywhere.

 

[minig0d]

To put it politely, there seems to be general agreement that the effectiveness of this lighting package doesn't live up to the expense and labor that went into it.

So, if this job rolled up to your shop, how would you fix it, short of patching dozens of holes and starting over?


To start, I'd ditch the rocker lights completely. I don't get the whole shin-level lighting concept, and hopefully they can be removed unobtrusively. Same for the hood mounts. That leaves "only" 8 body mount lights. With a slow pattern, keeping the red and white separate, not too bad.


Move the front lights to the outside of the grill. What's the point of hiding them, when everything else is prominently displayed?


Now, the big issue: the complete lack of lighting above waist level. A roof bar is the obvious choice, but if it absolutely, positively has to be a slick top, what to do? I think there might actually be some interior lights, but they barely make it through the tint. Or are those just reflections?


Your thoughts?

Well since its a fire department vehicle I'd put a full lightbar on it. You need 3x the cost of surface/covert lighting to be as effective as a lightbar so no reason not to for a FD vehicle. So throw a gen3 lightbar on there of just about any namebrand or feniex etc. Then throw a couple m6 or something similar in the grill (or a t6) and a couple license plate mounted t6. And you're done. If you have extra money or are in an urban area then some intersectors and a cobra 800 in the back window. Done.

 

[GPC]

There is no fixing that vehicle after all those holes got drilled in it. ):

 

[crt6mrt-265]

what holes?

 

[timlinson]

what holes?

 

[GPC]

Pretty much sums this thread up.

 

[dawson75]

Wow,


I really don't know what to say ...... Think i'll start with , Wait , WHAT HONEY? .... I gotta go ....

 

[SirenWorld.com]

I think rather than jumping on the fail-wagon here, I'll offer up some constructive ideas since the idea of this forum is to do what we do better... Lord knows I'm not perfect, and neither is anyone else.

• I've seen worse. At least it's sync'd.
  
• It covers 360-degrees. And with the Cobra series, you're not going to miss it.
  
• I always try to avoid drilling into the sheet metal of the vehicle if I can avoid it, but if the customer wants lights in the quarterpanel, then that's what they get.
  
• I think the rear needs a light stick of some type for traffic. The T-6's on the tailgate don't bother me. The spacing makes a big footprint, and they're sync'd.
  
• Try to avoid split heads unless there is no other option. You're essentially halfing the amount of light output.
  
• The eye notices large blocks of color better than smaller blocks of multiple colors... just keep that in mind.
  
• Everyone hates the lack of overhead lightbar on fire vehicles... and I get it... but it's not missing because of stealth reasons, some agencies just don't want it. As long as they have 360-degrees of good warning lights, who cares? The point is to provide adequate warning!
  

It's outside the box, it's a different install rather than 4 corner LED's and a lightbar... if the customer is happy, and it meets the criteria for adequate warning in their jurisdiction, then I think it works. The point of warning lights is to protect the people in and around the vehicle. If that mission is accomplished then more power to you. The time when you have to make a case for or against something to a customer is when what they want doesn't accomplish that goal, or could be handled in better ways than they envisioned.