Help ID these Federal Signal strobe tubes

DLuccia

Member
May 21, 2010
675
Greater Waterbury CT
I need to ID these strobe tubes so I can get a replacement for it. They are from the federal tubes that are mounted in the grill of my stations 66 dodge powerwagon brush truck.I don't know much in the way of federal products


The last picture is the power supply that goes with it to give an idea what I am looking for.


Thanks


Dan


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Squad-6

Member
May 21, 2010
1,322
N. GA
Those are the twistlock bayonet strobes & power supply found in Jetsonic & Jetstream Lightbars. They can typically be found pretty cheap new or used on eBay or from a member on here. On a truck that old you may not want to change what kind of strobes on it but it is something to consider.
 

DLuccia

Member
May 21, 2010
675
Greater Waterbury CT
I need atleast one of them idealy two of them.


They don't want to update the truck.I was going to update it for them a few times but they wana keep the truck as classic as they can. Its the first piece that the company bought themselves. We had a big shouting match when we added strobes to the rear.


If someone has them please let me know


Thanks


Dan
 

jdh

Member
May 21, 2010
1,555
Geneva, FL
I do not believe Federal sells them anymore. I know Galls sold them for a while, but for too much $$$$ for what they were. They are an old system/idea, and not a very stable system either. As mentioned above, they were an accessory to the Jet series light bars. I have never seen them used outside of that.
 

DLuccia

Member
May 21, 2010
675
Greater Waterbury CT
I spoke to tech support they no longer make them. The lady I spoke to wasn't helpfull and was just unplesent to deal with. Was the rudest tech support I've delt with. I've never delt with federal signal products befor and if that's a norm. I am glad I don't. Ill take Whelen any day.
 

Newberry13

Member
May 21, 2010
613
SC, USA
Not to get too far off topic, but, what's the difference between the J22 and the J30?
 

jdh

Member
May 21, 2010
1,555
Geneva, FL
Actually there is a J-20 and a J-22 which are basically the same. Same size housing, same flash pattern, both were designed for the Jet series lightbar. Why Federal made 2 supplies that were the same????? Maybe someone else on the board knows.


The J-30 was designed for the Streethawk lower level lamps. However, I saw a Strobehawk that used the J-30 for the 360's, which I do not think is correct. The Strobehawk we had, the power supply was in the speaker housing, and was a metal box.
 

DLuccia

Member
May 21, 2010
675
Greater Waterbury CT
jdh said:
Just a suggestion, if your department does not object, turn them into wig wag's. Very easy to do.

We had our yearly meeting and elections today. After speaking to my capt and deputy chief they would like to keep them strobe and try and get a replacement tube or 2 for them.


I might update the strobes completely if i cant get a replacement for them.
 

jdh

Member
May 21, 2010
1,555
Geneva, FL
I might update the strobes completely if i cant get a replacement for them.

Wow, OK. If the dept. you are with want to do that, you will now have to update the housing and cables...considering the former strobe system was a 2 wire... anything else would require a 3 wire system and some way to mount the strobe tubes.


That is if you cannot find a replacement.
 

Pete L.

Member
May 21, 2010
2,577
Virginia (south/central)
Dan,


I know I have the pig-tail strobes (helix) but I might have a couple of the straight strobe tube lights from the Jet


bars. I will check on Monday and let you know by PM. If we make a deal, I'll throw in a couple of 795 (50 watt) bulbs and


a FA3 flasher so you can have a classic backup ;)


You have to keep the brass happy :lol: :lol:


Pete
 

JohnMarcson

Administrator
May 7, 2010
11,043
Northwest Ohio
These bulbs come in the "U" style OP posted and also (as stated) a helix or curly version (both with the same base). I have only ever seen the helix ones used with a J30.... and only ever seen the U shaped ones used with a j20/22... I'm not sure if they have to be that way or not.
 

jdh

Member
May 21, 2010
1,555
Geneva, FL
These bulbs come in the "U" style OP posted and also (as stated) a helix or curly version (both with the same base). I have only ever seen the helix ones used with a J30.... and only ever seen the U shaped ones used with a j20/22... I'm not sure if they have to be that way or not.


No John, I have seen a mix of them on both systems. We had a bunch of jets with both J-20's and J-22's and they both sometimes had a mix of the "U" shape and the helix type on the same supply. I have also seen a mix of them on a few streethawks that had the J-30.


So they are interchangeable. I have also took the housing of the strobe bulb apart and ran a regular tube off the supply...but it is NOT advisable, from a safety and liability stand point
 

Pete L.

Member
May 21, 2010
2,577
Virginia (south/central)
Dan,


I found 2 of those little rascals for ya. PM is on the way with pics.


Also,


My J30's can be set to power one bulb or two, depending on where the internal jumper is set.


One bulb gets single flash, two bulbs get alternating single flash.


Anyone know what the set-up is on the J20-22 ???


Pete
 

JohnMarcson

Administrator
May 7, 2010
11,043
Northwest Ohio
jdh said:
No John, I have seen a mix of them on both systems. We had a bunch of jets with both J-20's and J-22's and they both sometimes had a mix of the "U" shape and the helix type on the same supply. I have also seen a mix of them on a few streethawks that had the J-30.


So they are interchangeable.

I'm sure they are interchangable... I wonder what the time frame on their production was though... is the helix style a later verison?
 

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