Mexico opposes pendeing execution of cop killer (denied, scumbag is dead)

HILO

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Mexican national scheduled to be executed in Texas | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth


Illegal immigrant was being transported by a Houston Police Officer, scumbag had a gun hidden, and shot Officer Gaddis twice in the back of the head. The Mexican Gov. is asking Texas Att. General Greg Abbot to stay the execution, and our own US State Department is backing the Mexican Gov's request. It will be a very sad moment if the execution is halted. Houston cops are talking about coming down hard on illegals if this scumbag is not put down. Gregg Abott is running for Texas Governor, his decision will directly affect his election quest.
 
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smokin351

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Seriously....


I mean Seriously!?!


It took Mexico almost 20 years before realizing that NOW they should step in and do something about this? I bet you wouldn't see an American or any other nationality residing 20 years in a Mexican prison if they had killed a Federale or other law enforcement official. It would have been a quick death by firing squad as soon as they were found guilty whether it was in 1994 or 2014. Plus, I can guarantee that person's self appointed defense attorney would have been on the Mexican payroll to ensure a swift and "impartial" conviction from the get go. Let's see the US Government send an American appointed attorney down to Mexico to defend an convicted cop killer and see how that flies.


He had his chance during the past two decades and no one stepped up then. Why should it matter now and who REALLY thinks this type of leniency is going to score us any brownie points with the Mexican government? Like THEY would do the same in return.


In the lyrical words of the band Fall Out Boy, I have this to say: "Light'em Up".
 
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CrownVic97

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Mexican authorities can F.O. in this case. They ain't doing crap to stop their own stupid problems, so they don't have a right to dictate to Texas or the U.S. who we can and can't execute when it's a murder that was committed here.
 

twodogs603

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Personally I think we should shoot every Mexican caught crossing our border illegally. No questions asked. Might deter some from trying and would definitely thin the herd.
 

Station 3

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Its rare when Mexican Policia Federal or Military take prisoners.. they usually execute everyone "cartel wise" and only spare the big boys to parade them on the media for Public Relations. Mexico politics has always defended the Mexican citizen accused of a crime in the US no matter how harsh a crime they did.. something I am not a fan of. Im more of the execution on the spot sort of guy..


Mexico has alot of growing up to do something only a a good sweep from the US Marines going over there and killing and capturing all the drug lords in a few days kinda sweeping.... which I dont know why we havent yet since we have invaded everyone else for any BS reason..
 
Jul 14, 2010
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Screw him. If he didn't want to be executed, he shouldn't have killed a cop. And who gives a rat's boot what Mexico thinks about it. Maybe they want him back..... ship the body to them.
 

CrownVic97

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I think an armored guard tower every 300 yards with one of these installed operated on a remote operated system, and spot illegals by FLIR and Infrared cameras, would be a MAJOR deterrent. The operator sees illegals crossing, remotely fires a warning burst of rounds in front of the group ONCE. After that, well......that's their choice to heed the warning burst or not.


If cartels engage the tower, I don't think there'll be much left of them to pick up with a spoon afterwards.


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HILO

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The execution has been delayed while the US Supreme court review two issue, if scumbags rights were violated, and if scumbag is mentally impaired. The warrant is good until midnight.


My opinion is that he gave up any rights when he entered the US illegally, and killed Officer Gaddis, and that he was in full mental control when he hid a gun, then pulled it out, slipped his handcuffs, and shot Officer Gaddis 3 times in the back of the head, kicked out the squad car window, and ran off.
 

HILO

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td><td>(CNN) -- [breaking news update at 10:02 p.m. ET Wednesday]


The U.S. Supreme Court has denied a request to stay the execution of convicted cop killer Edgar Tamayo Arias, Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesman Jason Clark said. The execution is scheduled to proceed Wednesday night, Clark said.


Lawyers for Tamayo criticized the ruling. "He will be executed tonight, despite the indisputable fact that his right to consular assistance was violated," attorneys Sandra L. Babcock and Maurie Levin said in a statement.


:thumbsup:


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HILO

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The State of Texas has carried out the death warrant issued against convicted cop killer Edgar Arias.


God Speed Houston Police Officer Guy Gaddis.
 

twodogs603

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HILO said:
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td><td>(CNN) -- [breaking news update at 10:02 p.m. ET Wednesday]


The U.S. Supreme Court has denied a request to stay the execution of convicted cop killer Edgar Tamayo Arias, Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesman Jason Clark said. The execution is scheduled to proceed Wednesday night, Clark said.


Lawyers for Tamayo criticized the ruling. "He will be executed tonight, despite the indisputable fact that his right to consular assistance was violated," attorneys Sandra L. Babcock and Maurie Levin said in a statement.


:thumbsup:


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Fry baby fry--if thats how they do it.

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timlinson

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HILO said:
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td><td>(CNN) -- [breaking news update at 10:02 p.m. ET Wednesday]


The U.S. Supreme Court has denied a request to stay the execution of convicted cop killer Edgar Tamayo Arias, Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesman Jason Clark said. The execution is scheduled to proceed Wednesday night, Clark said.


Lawyers for Tamayo criticized the ruling. "He will be executed tonight, despite the indisputable fact that his right to consular assistance was violated," attorneys Sandra L. Babcock and Maurie Levin said in a statement.


:thumbsup:


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Why did they say his rights were violated? He is not a citizen of the USA and therefore is not afforded the rights we are as protected by the Bill of Rights. Being in the country does not make you a citizen-there are criteria, tests, and oaths to taken prior to citizenship and protection. It's sad we even allow lawyers like this to practice. Even if a public defender, you do what you can. You lose, you should chalk it up to a loss, not blame his rights were violated.


He should have been shot on sight. Murder of an LEO plus trespassing.
 

Station 3

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CrownVic97 said:
I think an armored guard tower every 300 yards with one of these installed operated on a remote operated system, and spot illegals by FLIR and Infrared cameras, would be a MAJOR deterrent. The operator sees illegals crossing, remotely fires a warning burst of rounds in front of the group ONCE. After that, well......that's their choice to heed the warning burst or not.

If cartels engage the tower, I don't think there'll be much left of them to pick up with a spoon afterwards.


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They have RPGs Law rockets and recently took down a mexican federal chopper with a surface to air missle... these cartel guys are not your inner city gang member with a Saturday night special and a ak they stole


.. they are organized and can kill most border patrol agents and local law enforcement like if it was a game... I have experienced a cartel incursion into the US port of entry and the only reason all the deputy sheriffs, customs, border patrol and myself did not get killed is because the cartel members did not have permission to engage US officers in a gun fight. We were out gunned and out numberd. .


Just so you all know since CNN does not like to talk about the truth.


I hope that guy fries...
 

CrownVic97

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Station 3 said:
They have RPGs Law rockets and recently took down a mexican federal chopper with a surface to air missle... these cartel guys are not your inner city gang member with a Saturday night special and a ak they stole
.. they are organized and can kill most border patrol agents and local law enforcement like if it was a game... I have experienced a cartel incursion into the US port of entry and the only reason all the deputy sheriffs, customs, border patrol and myself did not get killed is because the cartel members did not have permission to engage US officers in a gun fight. We were out gunned and out numberd.

Well, then these would do nicely for border security if they could allow the border patrol to use them. Nothing says "F*** YOU" more than a missile reigning death in a large area.


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Or, one of these being called in....


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mcpd2025

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timlinson said:
Why did they say his rights were violated? He is not a citizen of the USA and therefore is not afforded the rights we are as protected by the Bill of Rights. Being in the country does not make you a citizen-there are criteria, tests, and oaths to taken prior to citizenship and protection. It's sad we even allow lawyers like this to practice. Even if a public defender, you do what you can. You lose, you should chalk it up to a loss, not blame his rights were violated.

He should have been shot on sight. Murder of an LEO plus trespassing.
That is so 2007... Pre Obama...
 

Turd Ferguson

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Pisses me off when people start talking about a convicted murderers rights. What about the fallen officer's right to life? What about his family's right to have their son, husband, brother or father? What about his right to work hard, make an honest living and actually contribute something to society? F*** off you bleeding heart liberals. Think of EVERYONE'S rights in a given situation. YOU ARE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!!! I pray that no one ever have to be murdered, but should it happen to them, lets see how quick they are to care about a killer's rights then. Stupid sons of bitches.
 
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Zoe

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timlinson said:
Why did they say his rights were violated? He is not a citizen of the USA and therefore is not afforded the rights we are as protected by the Bill of Rights. Being in the country does not make you a citizen-there are criteria, tests, and oaths to taken prior to citizenship and protection. It's sad we even allow lawyers like this to practice. Even if a public defender, you do what you can. You lose, you should chalk it up to a loss, not blame his rights were violated.

He should have been shot on sight. Murder of an LEO plus trespassing.

You need to go back and read at least the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments if you think he doesn't have the same rights you do.
 

Zoe

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Just so everyone is familiar with the whole picture, here is the Dept of State press release on the matter:

On January 22, 2014, the State of Texas executed Edgar Arias Tamayo, following his conviction for the murder of a Houston, Texas police officer in 1994. Mr. Tamayo was a Mexican national subject to the International Court of Justice’s Avena decision. The Court in Avena found that the United States had failed to provide consular notification and access to 51 Mexican nationals, including Mr. Tamayo, as required under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR). The United States, like 170 other countries around the world, is party to the VCCR. The VCCR ensures that individuals who are detained in a foreign country can receive access to and assistance from their embassies and consulates overseas in order to navigate foreign legal systems or otherwise get the assistance that they need. In Avena, the International Court of Justice ordered the United States to provide “review and reconsideration” of the 51 Mexican nationals’ convictions and sentences to determine whether they were actually prejudiced by not having been afforded consular notification and access in accordance with the VCCR.

The United States’ compliance with our international obligations under Avena is critical to our ability to ensure consular access and assistance for our own citizens who are arrested or detained by foreign governments, as well as to maintain cooperation from foreign governments on a broad range of law enforcement and other issues. The Department of State had communicated these important interests to Texas authorities with respect to Mr. Tamayo’s case, including urging Texas to delay Mr. Tamayo’s execution in order to provide an opportunity for the review of Mr. Tamayo’s conviction and sentence required under the Avena decision. The Department regrets Texas’ decision to proceed with Mr. Tamayo’s execution without that review and reconsideration, but remains committed to working to uphold our international obligations under the Avena judgment. This case illustrates the critical importance of Congress passing the Consular Notification Compliance Act, which would provide an additional mechanism for the United States to meet our international obligations.
 

JazzDad

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I think there may be some deep-seated animosity in the psyche of Texas stemming back to the 1830's.


The last paragraph of what you posted, Zack, is interesting. It sounds almost as if individual states still have rights. I thought the federal government just did whatever it wanted.
 

tvsjr

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Texas to Department of State: Die in a fire. Kthxbai.


When did we become the United Pussywhipped States of America?
 

CrownVic97

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tvsjr said:
When did we become the United Pussywhipped States of America?

When hippies started to be voted into public office, prestigious high-dollar colleges started training students to hate American core values and produce idiots with law degress, and that some voters don't know jack-$#%& or don't fricken' care about who they are allowing to run this country into the ground and only look forward to the next "Honey Boo-Boo" episode going to be on (BTW TLC, you done shot yourself in the head with your own gun. Bring back "Junkyard Wars," "Collapse," and "Paramedics" please).

On January 22, 2014, the State of Texas executed Edgar Arias Tamayo, following his conviction for the murder of a Houston, Texas police officer in 1994. Mr. Tamayo was a Mexican national subject to the International Court of Justice’s Avena decision. The Court in Avena found that the United States had failed to provide consular notification and access to 51 Mexican nationals, including Mr. Tamayo, as required under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR). The United States, like 170 other countries around the world, is party to the VCCR. The VCCR ensures that individuals who are detained in a foreign country can receive access to and assistance from their embassies and consulates overseas in order to navigate foreign legal systems or otherwise get the assistance that they need. In Avena, the International Court of Justice ordered the United States to provide “review and reconsideration” of the 51 Mexican nationals’ convictions and sentences to determine whether they were actually prejudiced by not having been afforded consular notification and access in accordance with the VCCR.


The United States’ compliance with our international obligations under Avena is critical to our ability to ensure consular access and assistance for our own citizens who are arrested or detained by foreign governments, as well as to maintain cooperation from foreign governments on a broad range of law enforcement and other issues. The Department of State had communicated these important interests to Texas authorities with respect to Mr. Tamayo’s case, including urging Texas to delay Mr. Tamayo’s execution in order to provide an opportunity for the review of Mr. Tamayo’s conviction and sentence required under the Avena decision. The Department regrets Texas’ decision to proceed with Mr. Tamayo’s execution without that review and reconsideration, but remains committed to working to uphold our international obligations under the Avena judgment. This case illustrates the critical importance of Congress passing the Consular Notification Compliance Act, which would provide an additional mechanism for the United States to meet our international obligations.

Okay.......whoever wrote this, and thinks like this about a MOTHERSUCKING COP KILLER needs to leave this country.....RIGHT FRICKIN' NOW. Or....stop using black tar heroin at work.


Good job, Texas. You gave the Mexico the middle finger, I hope the you all send a "Go f*** yourselves" letter back to the State department.
 
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Zoe

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CrownVic97 said:
When hippies started to be voted into public office, prestigious high-dollar colleges started training students to hate American core values and produce idiots with law degress, and that some voters don't know jack-$#%& or don't fricken' care about who they are allowing to run this country into the ground and only look forward to the next "Honey Boo-Boo" episode going to be on (BTW TLC, you done shot yourself in the head with your own gun. Bring back "Junkyard Wars," "Collapse," and "Paramedics" please).



Okay.......whoever wrote this, and thinks like this about a MOTHERSUCKING COP KILLER needs to leave this country.....RIGHT FRICKIN' NOW. Or....stop using black tar heroin at work.


Good job, Texas. You gave the Mexico the middle finger, I hope the you all send a "Go f*** yourselves" letter back to the State department.

Just playing the devil's advocate here...


The issue for the Dept of State is that if other countries don't believe that we are honoring the agreement to con solute services for their citizens arrested here, then there is a potential that countries will stop honoring the same services to American citizen's abroad.


They are afraid that if you get arrested in Mexico on trumped up charges or bad evidence, and you ask for assistance from the U.S. Consulate and legal services, that Mexico will tell you to go screw off.


I highly doubt anyone at State, even a liberal, would take the side of a cop killer... they're just thinking of the bigger picture. What happens if an American is falsely accused of being a cop killer in another country.
 

MEVS06

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Zack said:
Just playing the devil's advocate here...

The issue for the Dept of State is that if other countries don't believe that we are honoring the agreement to con solute services for their citizens arrested here, then there is a potential that countries will stop honoring the same services to American citizen's abroad.


They are afraid that if you get arrested in Mexico on trumped up charges or bad evidence, and you ask for assistance from the U.S. Consulate and legal services, that Mexico will tell you to go screw off.

This issue that you speak of happens in Mexico almost daily with US citizens. Guess what happens, you are kindly forgotten about for days then they "realize" they have yet to contact the US consulate about your false arrest. Now granted there are some legitimate arrests of US citizens in Mexico but most are BS. The US rarely helps with the release of said falsely arrested US citizens.
 

Zoe

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MEVS06 said:
This issue that you speak of happens in Mexico almost daily with US citizens. Guess what happens, you are kindly forgotten about for days then they "realize" they have yet to contact the US consulate about your false arrest. Now granted there are some legitimate arrests of US citizens in Mexico but most are BS. The US rarely helps with the release of said falsely arrested US citizens.

Exactly. So it's hard for the U.S. to get pissed at Mexico, and make an issue of it, if we appear to be just as guilty of it.


That's the point of the State Dept's position.
 

tvsjr

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Zack said:
Just playing the devil's advocate here...

The issue for the Dept of State is that if other countries don't believe that we are honoring the agreement to con solute services for their citizens arrested here, then there is a potential that countries will stop honoring the same services to American citizen's abroad.


They are afraid that if you get arrested in Mexico on trumped up charges or bad evidence, and you ask for assistance from the U.S. Consulate and legal services, that Mexico will tell you to go screw off.


I highly doubt anyone at State, even a liberal, would take the side of a cop killer... they're just thinking of the bigger picture. What happens if an American is falsely accused of being a cop killer in another country.

Considering how eat up the Mexican government is with cartel... who wants to go there anyway?
 

HILO

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The scumbag is a penis rancher in hell now.
 

Turd Ferguson

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I just really don't want to hear about his rights being violated. After reading this again, he had lawyers. Which means he received a trial, was found guilty by a preponderance of evidence, and sentence was carried out. He got his rights, then got what was rightfully due him by the law of the land in which his crime was committed. End of story, liberals.
 

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