MX7000 w/ traffic controller

[jvanorder]

I just picked up a mx7000 with a traffic controller. After searching around here for a bit i have learned that not too many were made the same. Some with a positive ground some with negative and so on. After looking at mine i have no idea what i got. No main positive or main ground. The cable that runs it only has 7 standard wires 1 red 1 red/white stripe 1 purple 1 blue 1 brown and 2 yellow. One the inside those wires connect to a pigtail that lead to the different lights. Each section has the lights mounted right to a board. The ends have 3 lights and the middle has 2. I have found that by just touching random wires say the red to positive and blue to neg i can get some to light up But there is no set order for any of them. Any idea on what i got and what controller i would need to run it?


here is a shot of the main harness running and the wires being split to the individual boards. Its the main connector in the center.

 

[jdh]

I believe that you can use any controller with that version of the lamp holders because they are isolated from the chassis. The MX I have with arrow stick has all the light heads attached to the frame much the same as a TD or flasher, there for requiring a positive controller. One of the wires in the bundle will be common to all the lights.


Some one correct me if I am wrong.

 

[MtnMan]

I have the same TA lights in my MX7000. The far right position of the 4-pin connector is the common. Since the common is a red wire, it's apparently intended to be used with a negative-switched controller. But, as jdh said, the lights themselves are polarity insensitive, so you could go either way.


I'm using a Whelen TACTRL1A. Just about any controller that's rated for halogen lights should be OK, and there are always a bunch on eBay.

 

[chief1562]

here's one I have wired and the controller.If you click on the picture twice you can enlarge it.

 

[jvanorder]

So i can use any one i can find? This is my first time working with anything like this so sorry if im a little slow

 

[MtnMan]

So i can use any one i can find? This is my first time working with anything like this so sorry if im a little slow

Yup, any halogen (not LED) TA controller.

 

[jvanorder]

Thanks for the help! I took some time this morn and got a battery and started to figure out what wires run what lights. By grounding the solid red wire i figured out what color runs what light. The only thing i dont have a clue about is the red wire with the white stripe. With red grounded the blue runs the outside left yellow runs the next 2 purple runs the middle orange runs the next 2 and brown runs the right end light. Grounded the red/white wire and nothing changed. Grounded both reds and still the same. Any ideas?

 

[chief1562]

Here this might help most of the TA are the same when it comes to wiring them up.


But as another said not advisable to use a narrowstick led controler on halogen lights.


Also I have wored a FS TA controler to MX7K and here's the conversion hope these diagrams help you.


Here's a few PDFs on them that might help too.


But remember you're useing a halogen.


When i get downstairs will try and find the controler and get a pic of the one I have wired to the MX I have.







asdc controoler.pdf

LED_NarrowStik-LC-Stik_T05765_rev_11.pdf

 

[jvanorder]

Thanks for the info it will help My budget is tight so I don't want to burn something up because I don't know what I'm doing

 

[shues]

The red wire with the white stripe is another ground. Because all seven wires in the ArrowStik cable are the same wire gauge, Code 3 used two wires for ground. Also, ignore the first image that chief1565 posted two posts above, as that one is for the older ArrowStik what uses positive side switching only.

 

[jvanorder]

The red wire with the white stripe is another ground. Because all seven wires in the ArrowStik cable are the same wire gauge, Code 3 used two wires for ground. Also, ignore the first image that chief1565 posted two posts above, as that one is for the older ArrowStik what uses positive side switching only.

Thanks for the info about the red wires. Also the pics posted look to be for the LED style and i have the halogen not sure if there is a diff in the wiring.

 

[chief1562]

The red wire with the white stripe is another ground. Because all seven wires in the ArrowStik cable are the same wire gauge, Code 3 used two wires for ground. Also, ignore the first image that chief1565 posted two posts above, as that one is for the older ArrowStik what uses positive side switching only.

I included it for general reference only in case somebody else saw this thread. And wondered about theirs.

 

[jvanorder]

I included it for general reference only in case somebody else saw this thread. And wondered about theirs.

you sneaky little russian i gotta keep my eye on you:squint:

 

[MtnMan]

Thanks for the help! I took some time this morn and got a battery and started to figure out what wires run what lights. By grounding the solid red wire i figured out what color runs what light. The only thing i dont have a clue about is the red wire with the white stripe. With red grounded the blue runs the outside left yellow runs the next 2 purple runs the middle orange runs the next 2 and brown runs the right end light. Grounded the red/white wire and nothing changed. Grounded both reds and still the same. Any ideas?

Ehhhh, something's not right, because only one light should be on at a a time. Sounds like you might have a "customized" configuration.


At this point, the best plan is probably to manually trace the wiring. Attached is a diagram I drew from my TA. You want to have all the commons tied together, and one wire to each individual bulb.

 

[jvanorder]

Ehhhh, something's not right, because only one light should be on at a a time. Sounds like you might have a "customized" configuration.

At this point, the best plan is probably to manually trace the wiring. Attached is a diagram I drew from my TA. You want to have all the commons tied together, and one wire to each individual bulb.

If you look closely at the pic i first posted you can see that no wires run directly to the bulbs. they connect to a board and go from there. In the pic you can see the 3 passenger side lights. 4 wires run to the board. The orange 2 wires connect to the orange wire at the other end of the harness (the side going to the controller) the red connects with the red and the black with the brown. The red wire is the only one all 3 boards have in common so i assume that would be the ground. The center set only has 3 wires 1 red and two purple. The drivers side has the 4 again 2 run to the inner 2 lights and 1 to the outer. I have a feeling the only way i will know for sure is to get a controller and give it a go and see what happens.

 

[chief1562]

you sneaky little russian i gotta keep my eye on you:squint:

I beg your pardon I'm not russian. :nono:

 

[chief1562]

Here's a question that I don't think as been asked yet.


Do you have a controller for it or are you just going by hit and miss with a battery.


If using the battery I would suggest you get a controller and hook it and see if it works right.

 

[jvanorder]

Here's a question that I don't think as been asked yet.
Do you have a controller for it or are you just going by hit and miss with a battery.


If using the battery I would suggest you get a controller and hook it and see if it works right.

Im going all redneck and using wires and a battery

 

[mjw357]

That TA is set up for a 5 channel controller, like the Code3 that Chief has pictured above. You don't have enough conductors in the cable coming out of the lightbar to control the TA heads individually. For that you would have to split up the orange and yellow pairs and provide an additional 2 conductors.

 

[jvanorder]

That TA is set up for a 5 channel controller, like the Code3 that Chief has pictured above. You don't have enough conductors in the cable coming out of the lightbar to control the TA heads individually. For that you would have to split up the orange and yellow pairs and provide an additional 2 conductors.

So depending on what controller I use I might have to run an extra wire per side to control each light individually correct

 

[MtnMan]

If you look closely at the pic i first posted you can see that no wires run directly to the bulbs. they connect to a board and go from there. In the pic you can see the 3 passenger side lights. 4 wires run to the board. The orange 2 wires connect to the orange wire at the other end of the harness (the side going to the controller) the red connects with the red and the black with the brown. The red wire is the only one all 3 boards have in common so i assume that would be the ground. The center set only has 3 wires 1 red and two purple. The drivers side has the 4 again 2 run to the inner 2 lights and 1 to the outer. I have a feeling the only way i will know for sure is to get a controller and give it a go and see what happens.

Yes, I know there are circuit boards - that's why I gave you a circuit diagram for them.


Sounds like mjw357 has hit the nail on the head, and you will need to add two additional wires. Hooking it up to a controller won't magically make the wiring correct itself.

 

[jvanorder]

Yes, I know there are circuit boards - that's why I gave you a circuit diagram for them.

Sounds like mjw357 has hit the nail on the head, and you will need to add two additional wires. Hooking it up to a controller won't magically make the wiring correct itself.

Ease up cupcake. This is my first time dealing with anything like this so I'm just trying to get all the bugs worked out before I hook it up. Running another wire to each side should be no prob to do

 

[mjw357]

This is my first time dealing with anything like this so I'm just trying to get all the bugs worked out before I hook it up. Running another wire to each side should be no prob to do

I was thinking this thru on the way home. Do the center 2 lights run off the purple together? If so you'll need a total of 3 extra wires, splitting up the two purples just like the outboard pairs.

 

[jvanorder]

I was thinking this thru on the way home. Do the center 2 lights run off the purple together? If so you'll need a total of 3 extra wires, splitting up the two purples just like the outboard pairs.

Yup the purple runs the two in the center

 

[chief1562]

I think you should put a wanted ad up looking for a controller. Get it hooked it up and find out it if everything works.


You came here looking for help I suggest to get a controller and stop the redneck stuff before you do damage.


As the extra wires don't worry about that until then. That photo I post is wired to the same type light you are showing us.


And there are no extra wires going to it.