dustymedic
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Police dog locked in hot vehicle for three hours causes outrage (vancouversun.com)
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HFD eng1ine
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HAHA i thought this was quite funny:
"I said 'I have a dying dog,' and I asked if I could get into the car, but the girl said 'the dog will kill you,' " said Seymonsbergen
Read more: Police dog locked in hot vehicle for three hours causes outrage
Now..back on topic...I dont see the big deal. The dog was fine, the officer opened the windows and had a bucket of water inside. I think this was a case of people trying to act like heros. the dog was probably barking because people were sticking their F**KING faces into the windows and spraying the car with water.
"I said 'I have a dying dog,' and I asked if I could get into the car, but the girl said 'the dog will kill you,' " said Seymonsbergen
Read more: Police dog locked in hot vehicle for three hours causes outrage
Now..back on topic...I dont see the big deal. The dog was fine, the officer opened the windows and had a bucket of water inside. I think this was a case of people trying to act like heros. the dog was probably barking because people were sticking their F**KING faces into the windows and spraying the car with water.
LawrenceM1993
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I don't know. The article was VERY biased in the way it was written, but I also believe that the dog shouldn't have been in the car that long unattended. I mean, when a K9 Dog/Handler team are on patrol, they are together.
I'mabeast
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Yes, the handler and dog are suppose to be together on patrol, but the handler should have training on how to care for the dog properly. A dog can suffer from permanent brain damage and or possible death when the temp goes up, outside and inside of a vehicle.
wkr518
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If that happened here locally that LEO /K9 officer would have been reprimanded for certain.Think of leaving your human LEO partner in the same predicament? The dog is obedient and unlike a human would not punch the dumbass in the face when he came back after going for a boatride for 3 hours.
Retired1
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A Texas police dog (Bloodhound) died last week when his handler went home, leaving his dog in the patrol car. Very sad!
North Texas police dog dies after left in hot squad car | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
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North Texas police dog dies after left in hot squad car | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
Greenville police dog dies in hot car | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
The article doesn't have enough information to make a determination one way or another...
...but I have seen K9 setups which include:
Window fans for the dog.
Personal alarms for the human officer if the temperature rises above a certain point.
Automatic car starters that turn on the AC to cool down the interior on their own.
And yet I have still heard stories of people freaking out about K9 officers being left in cruisers. (Usually all it takes is a little education and the civilian calms down once they understand exactly how great the dog has it.)
Of course, I'm not sure whether or not the vehicle in the story was equipped with any of these items... but who knows.
And as stated earlier, if I were the dog I would be barking my head off too if people kept coming over and poking around my cruiser.
...but I have seen K9 setups which include:
Window fans for the dog.
Personal alarms for the human officer if the temperature rises above a certain point.
Automatic car starters that turn on the AC to cool down the interior on their own.
And yet I have still heard stories of people freaking out about K9 officers being left in cruisers. (Usually all it takes is a little education and the civilian calms down once they understand exactly how great the dog has it.)
Of course, I'm not sure whether or not the vehicle in the story was equipped with any of these items... but who knows.
And as stated earlier, if I were the dog I would be barking my head off too if people kept coming over and poking around my cruiser.
If the weather didn't change to much in this area, today it's about 60 degrees with some clouds.
But it might be different and be hotter, but portably not colder that day.
But it might be different and be hotter, but portably not colder that day.
First off, the article contains very little useful info. You have to question the intent of the author of that article, more info was certainly available on the date it was written. The RCMP press release and the global news story were written the same day as the above article, and contain much more information. It should also be pointed out that the local media in BC often has an anti-law enforcement bias.
That being said, the officer in question in this case is now under investigation.
No harm came to the dog, and it certainly wasn't 'dying' as the article made it sound.
Police Dog Safety Taken Seriously
RCMP: officer
That being said, the officer in question in this case is now under investigation.
No harm came to the dog, and it certainly wasn't 'dying' as the article made it sound.
Police Dog Safety Taken Seriously
RCMP: officer
HILO
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I dont care what anyone has to say about it.
You dont leave a living being, dog, or baby, or person, in a car in the heat.
If you think its ok, go sit in a car with the window rolled down, and bottle of water, and wearing one of SPERMC's german coats, and tell me its alright after 1 hour.
You dont leave a living being, dog, or baby, or person, in a car in the heat.
If you think its ok, go sit in a car with the window rolled down, and bottle of water, and wearing one of SPERMC's german coats, and tell me its alright after 1 hour.
HILO
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SPMRC said:
Show me where anyone said you did say it was ok to to do...take it easy sugar puff, just becasue your paranoid doesnt mean I'm not out to get you.
HILO
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SPMRC said:
I was topic and you came and grabbed my dong. With out buying me dinner. No bueno.
German car!
SPMRC said:
It was only 60 degrees with the windows of the cruiser open 3"! How hot could it have been? Comfortable at worst!
I have to walk a foot-post in the concrete jungle in 95+ degrees with a vest and a hat for 8 hours. I'd say this dog has it made.
SPMRC said:
In this area? What area are you talking about exactly?
It hasnt been 60 in Lubbock, TX as you CLAIM to be in at least 3 Months
so trollboy where are you at?
happened in my town too. dog went into seizures. cop got reprimanded and dog taken away. served for another year till it died at handlers home. terrible way to go
BUFFaLOT said:
It only takes about 20 minutes for the temp in a locked vehicle to go from 72 degrees to 120 degrees. This will cook your brain in an hour. Don Myhre
Donslock said:
This is true... unless we're talking about a K9 vehicle here. SUV have a higher surface/area (surface=exposed to direct sunlight) ratio, which would increase the time. CVPI/Charger also are higher than the average subcompact.
And then there is the fact that those numbers are exclusively applied to scenarios where the car is completely shut, borderline airtight. I have yet to see a K9 vehicle that does not have barred open windows, let alone a fan.
I wish I could sleep next to a fan with my balls up in the air too...
But in all seriousness, this shouldn't have happened. I imagine it was hot in vancouver, and the windows were only open 3 inches. Could have been worse, should have been better.
Jarred J.
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umm don just fyi
several seconds at temps above 106 degrees will turn you into a vegetable.
at 120 your dead....
several seconds at temps above 106 degrees will turn you into a vegetable.
at 120 your dead....
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andrewsim
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Jarred J. said:yes and external temperatures affect internal temperatures
I've been outside in 110 degree weather, I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm pretty sure I experienced no brain damage, let alone becoming a vegetable...
Jarred J.
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ok so ill put you in a car locked in there for 3 hours at 140 degrees and ill ask you if your not dead how you feel then..... :undecided:
external temperature affects internal temperatures....
hot = heat stroke
cold = hypothermia
external temperature affects internal temperatures....
hot = heat stroke
cold = hypothermia
Retired1
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andrewsim said:
110 degrees? We call that: SUMMER
That said: while I may subject myself to be outside in these temps, I make my dogs all go inside into the A/C about 11 AM everyday.
Jarred J. said:
We had several days around 110 and above.
At some point I think we hit the 120 and as far as I know, we had no veggies or dead people in the area.
And I saw the road works out there when it was so hot.
fireman616wfd
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I have a K9 and she stays outside in a concrete pen with a cover on it and she is fine and finds dope everyday.... If it was 60 degrees in the middle of the day that means it's not going to get any hotter outside. If the temp was at 60 I think the dog would've been just fine. now.... On the other hand I don't agree with leaving it over a long amount of time.
Blade Runner
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HILO said:
Quoted for awesomeness.... By the way, Dr. Pepper burns like a sonuvabitch when it comes out of your nose, so thanks HILO.....LOL
HILO
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Your welcome.
People are forgetting that we, as humans (and I question some) can sweat. Dogs cannot in the same maner. They pant, and do sweat from their paw pads. So while you might be able to benifit from a slight breeze at 110 degrees, a dog cannot. 60 is a gret temp. However, a car is like an over. The glass draws teh heat in, and the roof does not reflect no matter what color the car is. 60 can quickly feel like 80 under the sun. Think about driving 5 hours in the mid 60's, after an hour, the heat from the sun makes the inside of the car hot, and usually you have to turn on the ac, or at least the vents. With a fur coat, and no breee, or way to move fast enough to cool your self, 60 gets warm fast.
People are forgetting that we, as humans (and I question some) can sweat. Dogs cannot in the same maner. They pant, and do sweat from their paw pads. So while you might be able to benifit from a slight breeze at 110 degrees, a dog cannot. 60 is a gret temp. However, a car is like an over. The glass draws teh heat in, and the roof does not reflect no matter what color the car is. 60 can quickly feel like 80 under the sun. Think about driving 5 hours in the mid 60's, after an hour, the heat from the sun makes the inside of the car hot, and usually you have to turn on the ac, or at least the vents. With a fur coat, and no breee, or way to move fast enough to cool your self, 60 gets warm fast.