Should I go red/blue?

Should I use two Red/Blues?

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lagunagrande

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Jan 23, 2011
223
Texas
I ordered some blue Whelen TIR3's from Don S to place in the rear of my vehicle. That got me thinking, should I go Red/Blue? I'm not talking about going all out.. Just switching two of my Red/White's for Red/Blue's; the two front facing ones. I will then place the two outtermost lights on the sides of my grille for intersections.. Good idea? Yes? No?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yePIVpDSd6s
 

badge22

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Aug 14, 2010
934
MI, United States
Sweet ride!
 

lagunagrande

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Jan 23, 2011
223
Texas
We are allowed Red/Blue but one incident and were screwed.. Haven't had one yet though so I see no problem.. Actually one problem.. Finding two Red/Blues! :weird:
 

Lookn2cuff

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Jan 1, 2011
114
Brazos Valley Texas
Are you a VFD or a cop? Makes a difference here in Texas. Volly's CAN'T run blue legally. They passed a law a few years ago that only police and paid fire and EMS can have blue on their vehicles. Volly's can run red, amber, green and white. Just an FYI since I have seen a few troopers issue tickets for them.
 

lagunagrande

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Jan 23, 2011
223
Texas
Lookn2cuff said:
Are you a VFD or a cop? Makes a difference here in Texas. Volly's CAN'T run blue legally. They passed a law a few years ago that only police and paid fire and EMS can have blue on their vehicles. Volly's can run red, amber, green and white. Just an FYI since I have seen a few troopers issue tickets for them.

Really? Cause our chief lets us. Seen a few other departments do this also.
 

cory y

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May 21, 2010
1,614
Lookn2cuff said:
Are you a VFD or a cop? Makes a difference here in Texas. Volly's CAN'T run blue legally. They passed a law a few years ago that only police and paid fire and EMS can have blue on their vehicles. Volly's can run red, amber, green and white. Just an FYI since I have seen a few troopers issue tickets for them.


Yeah you're wrong. Texas does not define what colors can or cannot be used by volunteers. It states that if your vehicle is considered to be an authorized emergency vehicle, you're allowed to use emergency lights and sirens.


And in texas the emergency colors are red blue and white. Green isn't even mentioned ANYWHERE in the statute.


Might wanna get your facts straight
 

lagunagrande

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Jan 23, 2011
223
Texas
cory y said:
Yeah you're wrong. Texas does not define what colors can or cannot be used by volunteers. It states that if your vehicle is considered to be an authorized emergency vehicle, you're allowed to use emergency lights and sirens.
And in texas the emergency colors are red blue and white. Green isn't even mentioned ANYWHERE in the statute.


Might wanna get your facts straight

:crackup: . Well Blue is allowed here.. But I don't want to do all the paperwork :hahano: So I'm just going to stick with Red/Clear :thumbsup:
 

cory y

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May 21, 2010
1,614
lagunagrande said:
:crackup: . Well Blue is allowed here.. But I don't want to do all the paperwork :hahano: So I'm just going to stick with Red/Clear :thumbsup:

There shouldn't be any paperwork with the state... just ask your chief about what colors he wants to allow and run what he does... its the easiest and safest way to do it
 

Lookn2cuff

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Jan 1, 2011
114
Brazos Valley Texas
cory y said:
Yeah you're wrong. Texas does not define what colors can or cannot be used by volunteers. It states that if your vehicle is considered to be an authorized emergency vehicle, you're allowed to use emergency lights and sirens.
And in texas the emergency colors are red blue and white. Green isn't even mentioned ANYWHERE in the statute.


Might wanna get your facts straight

True, but DPS did get a law passed back in 2004 or 05 in June that said only Law enforcement was allowed blue, but did say paid depts could run blue. If this was retracted, I never saw a legislative update saying so. While on patrol I backed a DPS Trooper who pulled over a volly for running blues. That's also why most VFD apparatis don't have blue on them.


Sec. 547.702. ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES. (a) An authorized emergency vehicle may be equipped with a siren, exhaust whistle, or bell:(1) of a type approved by the department; and(2) that emits a sound audible under normal conditions at a distance of at least 500 feet.( B) The operator of an authorized emergency vehicle shall use the siren, whistle, or bell when necessary to warn other vehicle operators or pedestrians of the approach of the emergency vehicle.© Except as provided by this section, an authorized emergency vehicle shall be equipped with signal lamps that:(1) are mounted as high and as widely spaced laterally as practicable 2) display four alternately flashing red lights, two located on the front at the same level and two located on the rear at the same level; and(3) emit a light visible at a distance of 500 feet in normal sunlight.(d) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may, but is not required to, be equipped with signal lamps that comply with the requirements of Subsection ©.(e) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may be equipped with a signal lamp that is temporarily attached to the vehicle roof and flashes a red light visible at a distance of at least 500 feet in normal sunlight.


541.201. VEHICLES. In this subtitle:


(1) "Authorized emergency vehicle" means:


(A) a fire department or police vehicle;


( B) a public or private ambulance operated by a


person who has been issued a license by the Texas Department of


Health;


© a municipal department or public service


corporation emergency vehicle that has been designated or


authorized by the governing body of a municipality;


(D) a private vehicle of a volunteer firefighter


or a certified emergency medical services employee or volunteer


when responding to a fire alarm or medical emergency;


This comes straight from the Texas Transportation Code. It says 4 "red" flashing lights, 2 to the front same level and 2 to the rear. Granted, I don't mess with VFD's going on calls, but they are not supposed to run anything other than red. There are too many VFD people out there that "think" they are cops and pull people over with blue lights. I have read several times of voll y's going to jail for impersonating a peace officer.. Just an FYI...
 

lagunagrande

Member
Jan 23, 2011
223
Texas
Lookn2cuff said:
True, but DPS did get a law passed back in 2004 or 05 in June that said only Law enforcement was allowed blue, but did say paid depts could run blue. If this was retracted, I never saw a legislative update saying so. While on patrol I backed a DPS Trooper who pulled over a volly for running blues. That's also why most VFD apparatis don't have blue on them.

Sec. 547.702. ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES. (a) An authorized emergency vehicle may be equipped with a siren, exhaust whistle, or bell:(1) of a type approved by the department; and(2) that emits a sound audible under normal conditions at a distance of at least 500 feet.( B) The operator of an authorized emergency vehicle shall use the siren, whistle, or bell when necessary to warn other vehicle operators or pedestrians of the approach of the emergency vehicle.© Except as provided by this section, an authorized emergency vehicle shall be equipped with signal lamps that:(1) are mounted as high and as widely spaced laterally as practicable 2) display four alternately flashing red lights, two located on the front at the same level and two located on the rear at the same level; and(3) emit a light visible at a distance of 500 feet in normal sunlight.(d) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may, but is not required to, be equipped with signal lamps that comply with the requirements of Subsection ©.(e) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may be equipped with a signal lamp that is temporarily attached to the vehicle roof and flashes a red light visible at a distance of at least 500 feet in normal sunlight.


541.201. VEHICLES. In this subtitle:


(1) "Authorized emergency vehicle" means:


(A) a fire department or police vehicle;


( B) a public or private ambulance operated by a


person who has been issued a license by the Texas Department of


Health;


© a municipal department or public service


corporation emergency vehicle that has been designated or


authorized by the governing body of a municipality;


(D) a private vehicle of a volunteer firefighter


or a certified emergency medical services employee or volunteer


when responding to a fire alarm or medical emergency;


This comes straight from the Texas Transportation Code. It says 4 "red" flashing lights, 2 to the front same level and 2 to the rear. Granted, I don't mess with VFD's going on calls, but they are not supposed to run anything other than red. There are too many VFD people out there that "think" they are cops and pull people over with blue lights. I have read several times of voll y's going to jail for impersonating a peace officer.. Just an FYI...

Yes. And the LEO's in the county are who enforce them. If they say running blue is okay, then it is. And paperwork would have to be done because they need to run checks on you, give your insurance company the info and yadda yadda.. I am liking Red/White more now :thumbsup: But, I may sooner or later get some blues :haha:
 

nerdly_dood

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Jun 15, 2010
2,312
Georgia
Keep the red lightbar on top but the two red/blue grille lights are just fine, go for it.
 

C420sailor

Member
May 23, 2010
502
Virginia, USA
Blade Runner said:
Hey Lookn, the catch 22 lies in the fact that the info you posted never mentions "no blue".

Exactly. The four reds are the minimum requirement for an emergency vehicle in Texas. Volunteer POV's are authorized emergency vehicles, and are allowed to run red and blue lights.


http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/psb/news/archive/blue_lights.htm


When I lived in Corpus Christi, every wrecker or construction vehicle I saw, whether it be private or government owned, ran blue/amber/white.
 
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cory y

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May 21, 2010
1,614
Lookn2cuff said:
True, but DPS did get a law passed back in 2004 or 05 in June that said only Law enforcement was allowed blue, but did say paid depts could run blue. If this was retracted, I never saw a legislative update saying so. While on patrol I backed a DPS Trooper who pulled over a volly for running blues. That's also why most VFD apparatis don't have blue on them.

Sec. 547.702. ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES.


(a) An authorized emergency vehicle may be equipped with a siren, exhaust whistle, or bell:


(1) of a type approved by the department; and


(2) that emits a sound audible under normal conditions at a distance of at least 500 feet.


( B) The operator of an authorized emergency vehicle shall use the siren, whistle, or bell when necessary to warn other vehicle operators or pedestrians of the approach of the emergency vehicle.


© Except as provided by this section, an authorized emergency vehicle shall be equipped with signal lamps that:


(1) are mounted as high and as widely spaced laterally as practicable


(2) display four alternately flashing red lights, two located on the front at the same level and two located on the rear at the same level; and


(3) emit a light visible at a distance of 500 feet in normal sunlight.


(d) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may, but is not required to, be equipped with signal lamps that comply with the requirements of Subsection ©.


(e) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may be equipped with a signal lamp that is temporarily attached to the vehicle roof and flashes a red light visible at a distance of at least 500 feet in normal sunlight.


541.201. VEHICLES. In this subtitle:


(1) "Authorized emergency vehicle" means:


(A) a fire department or police vehicle;


( B) a public or private ambulance operated by a


person who has been issued a license by the Texas Department of


Health;


© a municipal department or public service


corporation emergency vehicle that has been designated or


authorized by the governing body of a municipality;


(D) a private vehicle of a volunteer firefighter


or a certified emergency medical services employee or volunteer


when responding to a fire alarm or medical emergency;


This comes straight from the Texas Transportation Code. It says 4 "red" flashing lights, 2 to the front same level and 2 to the rear. Granted, I don't mess with VFD's going on calls, but they are not supposed to run anything other than red. There are too many VFD people out there that "think" they are cops and pull people over with blue lights. I have read several times of voll y's going to jail for impersonating a peace officer.. Just an FYI...

OK Genius Why dont you read the WHOLE thing instead of Picking and Choosing what you wanna Read?


Check out (d)

(d) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may, but is not required to, be equipped with signal lamps that comply with the requirements of Subsection ©.

and subsection © states:

Except as provided by this section, an authorized emergency vehicle shall be equipped with signal lamps that:
(1) are mounted as high and as widely spaced laterally as practicable


(2) display four alternately flashing red lights, two located on the front at the same level and two located on the rear at the same level; and


(3) emit a light visible at a distance of 500 feet in normal sunlight.
 
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