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emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
07 impala was going to be for a customer, trade my explorer for an impala do it up to his liking and sell it, never worked out....


1-whelen inner edge linz6


2- whelen innerbeams


3- head light flashers


4- rumbler or howler system with vehicle specific mounts


5- grover 1510 stuttertone airhorn with all wires cables compressor and reserve tank


6- tail light flasher


7-possibly mirror beams for the car in red red or redwhite split per head


8-console to mount all items needed, its going to need to be big, holding alot of stuff


9-minimum of 6 linz6 in red white 2 on the rear license plate, 2 on the front license plate 2 in the little windows in the back seat


10-led hide away red white split per head or 2 red 2 white


11- sound off signal intersection lights, the ones that clip under the mirror


now what i have for the car


1- 2 dual talons for the rear window


2-front corner strobes


3-ss2000sm


4-sp mark VII siren


5-pa300


6-2 fedsig dynamax speakers, 2 cpi speakers


now not sure which grille lights to put in any ideas?


yes i know 3 sirens is alot but this is going to be my response car for my volly ems service, and also my "flagship" car to call it for my shop that i am opening up to show the customers


let me know


thanks
 
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Pimp

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May 16, 2010
1,872
Louisiana
Three forms of "mirror" lights. Yes.





I thought the whole point of the Inner Beams was an interior version of the Mirror Beams.






Sometimes more isn't always better.
:cool:
 

VolEms

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May 24, 2010
2,112
NY, USA
Talking about grille lights . There are 2 grilles upper and lower. I would go with Rect14's upper and 2 Rect25's in lower .
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
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brooklyn,ny
Pimp said:
Three forms of "mirror" lights. Yes.



I thought the whole point of the Inner Beams was an interior version of the Mirror Beams.






Sometimes more isn't always better.
:cool:
well im looking for the maximum intersection warning, im shit scared since my bus was in an accident a few weeks ago and a friend totaled his car last year and another friend smacked up recently so im looking for the most intersction as possible, im in a busy city and i want to be seen
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
VolEms said:
Talking about grille lights . There are 2 grilles upper and lower. I would go with Rect14's upper and 2 Rect25's in lower .
well i have 4 sho me micro lites in red so i may put 2 in the upper grille and ill get 2 white ones and have them x the red and white in the lower grille
 

cory y

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May 21, 2010
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if you want good intersection, put something 90* on the front end, like where the factory fog lights would go... aiming 90* straight out the sides. that way you can poke the nose out into the intersection and give the flashies a chance to work instead of having 6 ft from the front bumper to the mirror lights.


also you want to do HAW, TLF, and corner strobes all at the same time? that will washout. do ONE of those.. TLF and HAW dont work well together.


3 sirens? 4 including the rumbler?


for a Imp this is what I personally would do.


Front,


HLF,


HAW in low beams (running as high a power as you can get)


r/w ghosts in the lower grille where the fog lights would be, aimed between 45* and 90* to the sides


2 400 series LIN12 splits R/W W/R running on a ulf44 in the lower grille on either side of the LP


inner edge R with W TDs


mirror beams R/R


side


R/A ghosts in the rear windows mounted to the headliner just aft of the B pillar


Rear


TLF


LINZ6 R/R on LP


Rear lower inneredge RRAAAARR


Sirens


Smart siren


rumber (if ya really want)
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
only tlf in the front hlf and strobes, the rear im putting the 2 dual talons since i may throw a dominator or a ta in the headliner in the rear in the future
 

cory y

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May 21, 2010
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i would avoid hanging stuff from the top of the rear window, its gonna be right in the people in the back seat's hair
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
well im working on it i always liked having a ta in the back and having deck lights, when i get it im going to test it out and see what i can do with the car, oh and also my backseats are rarely used they usually hold crap that i use on a daily basis, not really for people
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
true , not all at once prob going to use the mark 7 just for the man button, the sm will be used for lighting functions as well as a siren ,and the pa300 well i love it and the man button ,so yea max would be 2 sirens at one time
 

Stendec

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May 21, 2010
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If you got creamed at an intersection, and it scared you, good, but adding more lights isn't the solution - heads up driving and constant situational awareness are going to do a lot more for you in the long run.


Specialized intersection lights have been available for at least 20 years, and where do we still have the bulk of our collisions?


If you want all that for the sake of having it, fine, but there isn't any way I could justify hanging all that off of a agency car. If one of the troops told me he wanted four sirens I'd tell him to go to Walmart and buy a handheld gas boathorn.


How about knocking 2/3rds to 3/4s off your list and taking a high performance driving class instead?
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
me personaly, knock on wood , i have never gotten into an accident, but here in ny , alot of crazy drivers, also as stated before im going to be using this prretty much as my show off car for my new install shop so i wanna do something a little crazy
 

CenTexPSE

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May 21, 2010
789
Covington, TX
Stendec said:
If you got creamed at an intersection, and it scared you, good, but adding more lights isn't the solution - heads up driving and constant situational awareness are going to do a lot more for you in the long run.

Specialized intersection lights have been available for at least 20 years, and where do we still have the bulk of our collisions?


If you want all that for the sake of having it, fine, but there isn't any way I could justify hanging all that off of a agency car. If one of the troops told me he wanted four sirens I'd tell him to go to Walmart and buy a handheld gas boathorn.


How about knocking 2/3rds to 3/4s off your list and taking a high performance driving class instead?


Not trying to preach, but i was going to say something along the same lines. I will not procede thru a red light or stop sign unless i make eye contact with every driver, and make sure that they see me and they know i see them. Its better to take a few extra seconds at an intersection than to not arive on scene at all. No amount of lighting will catch the attention of that careless, texting driver. I agree intersection warning is needed, but i wouldnt go all out on it. Corner strobes and mirror beams work well
 

pdk9

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May 26, 2010
3,834
New York & Florida
def. too much IMO. don't get me wrong...being a fellow whacker, i love a lot of blinkies too, but there's a point where too many looks tacky. i trimmed down the list u made above with how i'd do it if it was my car.


--whelen inner edge linz6


-- head light flasher


-- ghosts behind the grill (the impala grill in the 2007-ish models has very narrow slots so u will have a hard time with getting most lighting to go thru without being blocked significantly)


-- tail light flasher


-- (2) linz6 on the rear license plate (1 solid red and i solid amber; avoid clear to the rear)


-- sound off ghosts clipped under the mirror


-- 2 dual talons for the rear window


-- 10-75 bracket with linz6's for front intersection or mount the linz6's on the side of a pushbumper


-- Havis console


-- ss2000sm


-- rumbler or howler system with vehicle specific mounts


-- fedsig dynamax speakers


i really don't think LAWs/HAWs work well in the front of an impala (due to the housings), and i think it'd repetitive to have LAWs/HAWs in the reverse and brake lights if u have a TLF too, so i'd choose 1 or the other for the rear. this is how i personally'd do it, but since u want it to be your demo car, feel free to "whacker" it out as much as u want by adding more lights to the front, rear, and sides (i.e. behind the b-post and/or the c-post)
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
ok well to stop all the confusion ill explain in detail how i want to do the car


front-linz6 inner edge rw, inner beams r or rw if possible, mirror beamsr or rw if possible,sos intersection lights, hlf, corner strobes, 10-75 license plate cracket with linz6 rw


grille- the uper grille- 2 sho me micro lites r


lower grille 4 sho me micro lites 2 r 2 w going in the x pattern


side grille- 2 linz6 rw


rear-tlf, 2 linz6 not sure of the colors ra split or r solid a solid or rw split horizontal bracket


rear window 2 dual talons rw and possibly a ta not quite sure on the ta yet


interior-not sure which one but going to put a console- in the console ss2000sm,pa300,markVII, now some switches, im looking at carling switches, 2 momentary one for the rumbler one for the grover stuttertone airhorn,


speakers- 2 fed sig dynamax 2 cpi compak speakers
 

emtmike

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May 24, 2010
763
brooklyn,ny
i completely agree thats whyim putting a bunch of stuff exterior mounted i dont want the flashback, at night when on a call just flip on the exterior lights and throw a rotator on the roof
 

Doug

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May 23, 2010
1,151
Maryland
emtmike said:
well im looking for the maximum intersection warning, im shit scared since my bus was in an accident a few weeks ago and a friend totaled his car last year and another friend smacked up recently so im looking for the most intersction as possible, im in a busy city and i want to be seen

All the lights in the world aren't going to save you if you drive like an idiot. Take an EVOC class (apply what you learn), drive defensively, apply some sense and you should get there in one piece. Adding more lights isn't necessarily going to save you from getting plowed into (or, for that matter, plowing into someone).


Better yet, if your EMS service (Hatzolah, in New York City, I'm guessing) is so busy, why not staff the units as much as possible? This would (almost) eliminate the need for you to equip your own car with all the lights, as well as possibly decrease the call to at patient's side (patient access) time (in other words, in a world when every second counts, providing better customer service).
 

vas4735

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Jun 14, 2010
5
NYC, NY
damn and i thought my car had too much! one rotator (SVP teardrop), one set of grill lights, one mini phantom, one talon on the deck along with vertex in the rear reverse housing.... throw a lightbar on top. it will save most of the headache. or hell if you got the money install the entire list and put a video up!
 

Rofocowboy84

Member
May 20, 2010
1,161
Centre County, PA
The veteran members may remember this story. A few years ago I was responding to a cardiac arrest call. I was driving on the main road, with secondary roads every few hundred yards that all had stop signs...my road didn't. I was making a ton of noise, 200W siren on yelp and air horns, and all of the bright things flashing. That still didn't stop some dumb f**k from pulling out right in front of me. She didn't just run the stop sign (still got a ticket for that though, lol), she stopped, supposedly looked left and right, and then pulled out right in front of me.


Moral of the story is, sometimes no matter how bright or loud you are, people will still do stupid things. Either way, I do agree with what some have said. Save some of that money and take at minimum an EVOC class, even up to a "performance driving school" class like Ibby said.
 

WS224

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Nov 28, 2010
1,049
West Tennessee
The short answer is yes - way to much. Absolutely lose the air horns. 3/4 truck or higher only - that has to be in some by-laws somewhere.
 

philyumpshus

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Jun 20, 2010
1,284
Malone, NY
In case anyone didn't notice, this thread is almost a year old and was revived by a "Newbie" member. :rolleyes: This install has probably come and gone...
 
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