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ProPatriaNeverPassAFault

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From this neck of the woods:


"Crying like a baby." This clever little observation drives me insane. Um yeah, you would be too if you just got tased. Probably the fastest she's ever moved since getting her 12 piece order at the Popeye's down the street from here.




 
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JazzDad

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I like the amount of white Windsor uses in their bars.
 
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SomeBloke

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More Cannucks - note how the traffic yields to the RCMP!

Sometimes you just need to go retro:
 

ProPatriaNeverPassAFault

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More Cannucks - note how the traffic yields to the RCMP!
Go to Toronto and the GTA. It's often quite the contrary. I'd have thought that the English would show proper decorum and yield; except in London, of course. Especially not in East London nowadays. As for the Northern Irish, they'd just hurl a nail bomb at you. The Scots would swing Claymores at you and shout profanities, but the Welsh would probably yield their wheeled sheep ;). The Isle of Man doesn't use conventional motor vehicles, as we know. They run around in vehicles that use three legs instead of wheels.

@JazzDad Windsor uses a lot if white on their bars because Windsor drivers are notoriously terrible. Zero situational awareness, painfully slow reaction times, inability to comprehend how to use an indicator, bizarre interpretations of the rules of the road (e.g. Vehicles always have the right of way never pedestrians because cars are bigger) and other mind numbingly stupid mannerisms that you have to drive incredibly defensively as well as aggressively, when need be. Being able to cleverly use colourful language is also a plus. This city is a bit foul-mouthed owing to its industrial roots, but you have to take it to the next level. Just have to be careful these days, unless you want to be shot by a tweaker armed with some Hi-Point POS junk gun smuggled in from Michigan. Said armament will always have a mag that's a mashup of rounds; both in terms of manufacturer and the type of round itself. So swear carefully unless you want to face an inaccurate barrage of SWC, JSP, FMJ and wadcutter rounds. Maybe even some lead round nose!

That and the white between red is just patriotism, eh.

Looks like Windsor station 1 needs to work on their front apron and lessen that approach angle.
It's the oldest of the stations and it's location in general would make any modifications very difficult. The now-replaced stations all had the same issue. The new stations are apparently quite something. I know a city engineer who worked on those projects and told me the approximate cost of each station. The figures were astronomical. He said that the kitchens alone were close to $1,000,000! IIRC, that was per kitchen! I don't know how that's even possible. He said that no cost was spared and the project was a "money is not an issue" type of deal.

Remember, this is the same city that uses CanTrol in their vehicles and always tries (and usually gets) the best equipment out there. Any Arjent S2 that you see in a video with Windsor Police is a relic that hasn't been replaced yet; they've switched to Liberty II DUOs, possibly TRIOs.
 
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SomeBloke

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I actually really like the light setup on these vehicles, and I dunno what was going on, but if there's 9 vehicles responding, someone done messed up big time.
 

ProPatriaNeverPassAFault

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I actually really like the light setup on these vehicles, and I dunno what was going on, but if there's 9 vehicles responding, someone done messed up big time.

Is The Met still fielding the rectangular, higher-profile bars? They remind me of the opening of the mid-late 90s series of The Bill. I was half-expecting to see a closeup of the bar flashing and a clip of Sgt. Cryer. He must have been back at Sun Hill; now promoted to Inspector and telling the troops to "get on your bikes!" when this was recorded ;).

Also, what's the make/model of the siren with the incredibly high pitched wail? That siren would be both torturous and nightmarish to @Wailer ! It's terribly high pitched, even by my standards and I consider Unitrol wails to be musical. It makes the Aussie LTS sirens sound rich and lower pitched in comparison! IIRC, haven't many UK police services switched to Whelen sirens? Do they run Blues and Twos as often as in years past?
 
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Not many police forces still use two tone horns (some Welsh ones do and Greater Manchester are still going strong), there has been a lot of speculation in the UK EV spotting world over the high pitched siren - we mostly reckon it's a Premier Hazard of some form (the piercer and hi-lo tones are identical to most PH)

Just be aware the Met are very different from other/majority of UK Police Forces. (They have a very unique fleet setup)

Most UK constabs use Whelen/Premier Hazard or Redtronic sirens (although a lot of the South Coast lot use Federal Signal Vama sirens - Dorset, Sussex etc)

In fact most Forces have been using Whelen (Woodway) sirens since the mid 90's.
 

ProPatriaNeverPassAFault

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Not many police forces still use two tone horns (some Welsh ones do and Greater Manchester are still going strong), there has been a lot of speculation in the UK EV spotting world over the high pitched siren - we mostly reckon it's a Premier Hazard of some form (the piercer and hi-lo tones are identical to most PH)

Just be aware the Met are very different from other/majority of UK Police Forces. (They have a very unique fleet setup)

Most UK constabs use Whelen/Premier Hazard or Redtronic sirens (although a lot of the South Coast lot use Federal Signal Vama sirens - Dorset, Sussex etc)

In fact most Forces have been using Whelen (Woodway) sirens since the mid 90's.
Compared to other services, how is The Met different in terms of overall fleet setup? I'd imagine their deployment of Trojan units would be significantly greater compared to most services. By the same token, I wouldn't be surprised if Greater Manchester followed suit in terms of a larger Armed Police deployment. Parts of that region are fairly dodgy, as we both know. Wigan immediately comes to mind in that regard. Dynamite Kid is condemned to a council flat there. Then again, he wasn't the nicest fella.

As for the sirens, I'll have to look into both Premier Hazard and Redtronic. Both are foreign to me, but I'm still new to this. I'd be lovely if The Met Sound tone made a resurgence. That was a lovely yelp in how distinct it was not only in its sound but the setting in which it was used.
 
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SomeBloke

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Actually, the sequel to the "Met Sound" siren is in use with quite a few Londonish/South East forces (Essex, City of London) in the form of Stirling SS2H4 siren boxes (I used to have one). British Transport Police used to use them too.

As for the Met, it's usually budget lighting and vehicles. Think Liberties with alternating solid flashing bar blues and HLF.

Many Forces have unique-ish styles, or very similar ones depending on the vehicles in the fleet. (Most Vauxhall Astras from a few years back came with Whelen Justice bars and Gamma2 sirens)

Stirling SS2H4 Siren in action:
 

ProPatriaNeverPassAFault

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I'm going from memory, but the City of London Police is strictly for the Borough of London, correct? Is that primarily the Financial District and around Buckingham Palace and the PM's Residence?

The Stirling is close to the Met Sound, but still not quite the same IMO. Doesn't sound as clean. That being said, I'd love to get a Stirling, but I have no doubt that they're incredibly rare here. One would imagine that it might be possible to find one, but it appears that the Commonwealth Realms don't share warning equipment. You'd never see any of the Hazard products from Australia here, either. By the same token, I doubt that it's easy to find anything from D&R Electronics in the UK or any of the old Dominion Automotive lighting either. I suppose that I'd have to head over to a boot sale somewhere around London to have any hopes of getting one. That, or some good luck on the Bay.



Whomever they're escorting to prison must be one seriously dangerous and/or high profile offender. Are such escorts common?
 
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SomeBloke

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Yep, CoLP (as they love to be known) are for the "City of London" which includes Westminster, the Financial District and Government nonsense.

If I'm right, Stirling actually made the Met-Sound siren boxes, or had something to do with the Met, as a few of the "Museum" pieces of the Met have their siren boxes in. (Sadly I no longer have my siren collection but I can say with certainty that 2 Stirling sirens (an SS2H4 and a Tri-Sound) existed in the US circa 2014-2016)

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